AlexBurrows14Yu Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, eeeeergh said: Imo what we’re really missing is: 1. an old school third line that is used to match up against oppositions 1st line. Center is a faceoff specialist and they play a stifling style. This line is also the foundation for our penalty kill, and reduced the demand placed on our 1st/2nd line so they can take shorter shifts and are more rested. 2. A willie Mitchell type to pair with Hughes, and a diet Willie Mitchell to pair with OEL. We had that with Motte Lammiko Highmore. They were effective last year. I wish they kept them… I believe we would have more wins with them and wouldn’t have 8 games which we blew multiple goal leads.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post tas Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: that's why context is important. rutherford felt he should have ended his "career in pittsburgh" after the success rather than going out how he did there. he doesn't believe he should have ended his career period there. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, eeeeergh said: I find it hard to have sympathy for the working conditions of athletes being paid millions of dollars teams with far less talent have played far better too many games you just have to look at the shot block count to figure out how much most of these guys care How much money would it take for you to not care about the thing you are most passionate about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: How do you know the fans can handle a rebuild, we've never even done one before in 52 years. There are already posters on CDC who are packing it in. I think the burden of proof is on you to prove and put forth an argument on why you think they couldn't. There are a ton of CDC users calling for a rebuild as well as many writers who follow the team exclusively...and saying an arena was half empty 40 plus years ago isn't all that relevant. Edited January 11, 2023 by Harold Drunken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Really, the only way? That doesn't compute. Surely there is more than 1 defenseman available in the NHL and several ways to acquire them. Benning made a fatal error when he sold the farm early to chase short term success. He wasn't chasing short term success, otyer tgan to try and give the young core a winning environment.......pretty hard to fault a guy for wanting a winning team. Who else could he have got for such a cheap price? OEL is a solid damn and they got him for scraps .........any other damn would have cost a lot more, both in terms of assets in a deal and cap space. And no matter who is in the lineup, they we ouid look great under this coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Viper007 said: Petey has shown up for pretty much every game. There's maybe 2 games where he had really bad games. He's been the most consistent player on the team this season. I'd say bo has been tye most consistent, but Petey is right there too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, stawns said: He wasn't chasing short term success, otyer tgan to try and give the young core a winning environment.......pretty hard to fault a guy for wanting a winning team. Who else could he have got for such a cheap price? OEL is a solid damn and they got him for scraps .........any other damn would have cost a lot more, both in terms of assets in a deal and cap space. And no matter who is in the lineup, they we ouid look great under this coach I was never a player at your level and you are adamant about OEL. I watch Meyers and OEL and don't see it. It appears puck possession is emphasized and short passes inside the d-zone provides an opportunity to break up ice in control of the puck. There just does not seem to be any adjustment based on the score. When up 3 - 0 a safer play would be off the glass and out. Rutherford complained about the lack of structure back in November. I not sure what I was looking at last night but not good. I still think Miller-Boeser-Garland-Meyers should be gone. That said Garland is playing well these days but that should mean a better return. OEL at 20 minutes can likely work for a while. If they can get a 2nd for Schenn then he has to go as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, stawns said: The moves JB gets flak for were harmless deals because he knew what the real timeline was. None of the players he signed were going to impede his ability to support the real core of the team as they started to take over. All his "terrible deals" were set to expire in the next or two, right when Petey becomes "the" guy. This management team.hss f***** this up far worse than JB would have. 110%. JB never had a trade chip as valuable as Miller… last TDL. They botched that big time and getting a deal done with the Rags would have been huge. Even in the offseason they should have went back to the table and hammered out a deal with a team instead of working out a contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, stawns said: I'd say bo has been tye most consistent, but Petey is right there too During our 7 game start to the season, Pettersson was the clear difference maker on our team, and most were calling out Bo for lack of leadership, drive and determination. Since then, both have been just as consistent as the other, and I'd even give a slight edge to Pettersson, who's defensive work is far better than Bo's. All in all, Pettersson's been the most consistent Canuck all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, stawns said: I'd say bo has been tye most consistent, but Petey is right there too Consistently non existent! Hold Bo to the same standard as everyone else. The guy does nothing if he's not standing still for tap ins. Can't even win faceoffs these days. We are incredibly lucky he's doing the one thing that shoots value up regardless and that's score goals Edited January 11, 2023 by Mustard Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, the_impersonator13 said: I made a bet with a co-worker in PA who's a Pens fan that the loser buys beers next time we meet. I knew when we were up 3-0 I'd be buying!!! I almost chirped my teammate in our group chat when it was 3-0. Hes a huge Pittsburgh fan and last week a bunch of us went over to his place to watch the winter classic…. Immediately after the thought crossed my mind to chirp him, I was like “no not doin it I got a bad feeling” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Consistently non existent! Hold Bo to the same standard as everyone else. The guy does nothing if he's not standing still for tap ins. Can't even win faceoffs these days. We are incredibly lucky he's doing the one thing that shoots value up regardless and that's score goals Yup. Bo tried hard but defensively he’s not nearly to Petey’s level. Not even close. We will extend him for sure. Just like with JTM; that’s what our owner wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulCap Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Consistently non existent! Hold Bo to the same standard as everyone else. The guy does nothing if he's not standing still for tap ins. Can't even win faceoffs these days. We are incredibly lucky he's doing the one thing that shoots value up regardless and that's score goals There's not much mustard to him. There's a lack of it across the lineup excluding schenn, burroughs, joshua, lazar and lockwood. The team never seems in control. It seems that pettersson and hughes (kuzmenko at times) are the only ones capable of settling things down with the puck and teams are starting to beat them both up physically so its just a constant scramblefest. We really do need to fight more to stop that bs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Doom 'n' Gloom. Nuthin' new here. That being said................ Management group has got to be stirring big time now. I'm sure there's something up at deadline time. I feel the 2023 off season will be a doozy! I'm preparing myself for both positives and negatives. Positives being more draft picks, more cap space, more depth, younger core; negatives being the loss of beloved players, growing pains, losing seasons............. The Canucks, more so than other teams in NHL history, depend on top notch goaltending. Always. That's why Vancouver is known as the Goalie Graveyard. Nuthin' new, but always relevant. My point is, Demmer might be in the mix trade wise. I love Demo, but seriously If we're to tank, then sub par goaltending will get us there. Trade Demmer for assets that'll benefit us for the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, PistolPete13 said: This fan base will be devastated if the team doesn’t make any serious moves at the TDL. I’m afraid to get my hopes up, based on past experiences. Yup I wouldn't be surprised to see nothing happen. We're all just bankrolling Aqua at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sativika said: Doom 'n' Gloom. Nuthin' new here. That being said................ Management group has got to be stirring big time now. I'm sure there's something up at deadline time. I feel the 2023 off season will be a doozy! I'm preparing myself for both positives and negatives. Positives being more draft picks, more cap space, more depth, younger core; negatives being the loss of beloved players, growing pains, losing seasons............. The Canucks, more so than other teams in NHL history, depend on top notch goaltending. Always. That's why Vancouver is known as the Goalie Graveyard. Nuthin' new, but always relevant. My point is, Demmer might be in the mix trade wise. I love Demo, but seriously If we're to tank, then sub par goaltending will get us there. Trade Demmer for assets that'll benefit us for the near future. You might be right but I dont know how much value he has right now Will he rebound from his injury to the form he once was? How long will that take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. Bo tried hard but defensively he’s not nearly to Petey’s level. Not even close. We will extend him for sure. Just like with JTM; that’s what our owner wants. EP is worth 2 Horvats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: You might be right but I dont know how much value he has right now Will he rebound from his injury to the form he once was? How long will that take? Tye value is cap space, getting out from under that contract and getting his personality out of the room. Everything else is gravy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, tas said: that's why context is important. rutherford felt he should have ended his "career in pittsburgh" after the success rather than going out how he did there. he doesn't believe he should have ended his career period there. Sometimes context can be so misconstrued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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