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[PGT] Chicago Blackhawks at Vancouver Canucks | Jan. 24, 2023

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2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

Tie Domi?

 

 

 

lol, close enough wow. yeahhhh

Yup, that's called sticking up for your teammates.  Mark Howe was one of the classiest players ever and Wendel Clark gave him a massive cheap shot.  Tocchet was onto Clark before he could even pick up his stick.  Luckily, Clark was a tough guy himself, cause if he wasn't then they would probably have needed the stretcher...

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Just now, Elias Pettersson said:

Yup, that's called sticking up for your teammates.  Mark Howe was one of the classiest players ever and Wendel Clark gave him a massive cheap shot.  Tocchet was onto Clark before he could even pick up his stick.  Luckily, Clark was a tough guy himself, cause if he wasn't then they would probably have needed the stretcher...

Great play all around. I grew up with Clark. He was insanely tough and crazy too. Like that's hockey. The Mark Howe story is a good one, as are all the Howe's.

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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

 

Of course teams tank! Do you think fans are so stupid that we can’t see how the lottery really fixed nothing?

 

If you want teams to actually not tank, give even 10% odds to every bottom 10 team.

Or even one up in and give an even percentage of 1st overall to all non-playoff teams. This way the goal every season should be to win games and to make the playoffs. No matter what part of the season or how low you are in the standings.

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39 minutes ago, Devron said:

I liked that interview with Rick

Agree, think he's a personable guy in a bad situation, his time in TV will have prepared him well for this.

 

In all honesty coaching wise it's hard to say so early how things will go but I like putting 4th line grinders up with our skilled guys. A bit like chemistry lines on NHL games, a grinder always seems to play well with a playmaker and shooter and that's exactly how we scored our big goals tonight. 

 

Also like the fact he specifically said he doesn't like playing guys like Hughes 25+ minutes which was one of the few things I disliked about Bruce.

 

I can just tell this team is going to do something rediculous like go 20-10-5 and miss the playoffs by a whisker and get a 15th overall pick.

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23 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

I'm sure people will look back on this game fondly when Bedard is destroying us as a member of the Hawks for the next 15 years. 

Finishing dead last guarantees nothing. Maybe we'll end up in 5th place and that's gonna be the lottery position, who knows... Also, we play Chicago 3 times a year, so yeah, that's totally going to be the deciding factor for the next 15 years whether we make the playoffs or not.

 

Also also, we're 14-19-6 against the Oilers since the arrival of McJesus, so it's not like we're losing every game to them either.

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37 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said:

The game is much more than "fighting" obviously but I did not like Horvat's reaction (or lack there of) after the Domi cross check on DJ. This team needs new leadership on the ice - Horvat has been a good Canuck but I am looking forward to a team with EP and Kuz holding the leadership reigns.

Huh!?!!?! Cause EP or KUZ will act differently than Bo did in that situation?  I don't understand what you're getting at.  EP or Kuz wouldn't do anything either just like Bo.

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1 hour ago, RU SERIOUS said:

You call that opposition?    That is one of the worst teams I've seen in years and we barely beat them.

It's is the worst team but barely beat them? We putshot them 50 to 10 and scored 5 goals without any PP goals. Would probably be 10-0 if Demko was in our net and their goalie didn't have a horseshoe up his butt. Got their behind kicked on scoresheet and ice and their goalie got injured too

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2 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

You call that opposition?    That is one of the worst teams I've seen in years and we barely beat them.

barely beat them lol... next time spend less time posting in the GDT and try watching more of the game.

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2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Nah still too high for the bottom 2 for me.

 

What Chicago, Columbus, and Anaheim is doing is embarrassing and bad for the game.

I don’t think Anaheim or Columbus have full on tried to tank from the summer .

 

i think only Chicago has truthfully.

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23 minutes ago, Rubik said:

Finishing dead last guarantees nothing. Maybe we'll end up in 5th place and that's gonna be the lottery position, who knows... Also, we play Chicago 3 times a year, so yeah, that's totally going to be the deciding factor for the next 15 years whether we make the playoffs or not.

 

Also also, we're 14-19-6 against the Oilers since the arrival of McJesus, so it's not like we're losing every game to them either.

False. Finishing dead last guarantees a better chance at first overall, which is something this franchise desperately needs and is actually in a position to go for this year.

 

This is a useless win that does nothing but lessen our odds at landing a franchise altering player in this year's draft.

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2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

False. Finishing dead last guarantees a better chance at first overall, which is something this franchise desperately needs and is actually in a position to go for this year.

 

This is a useless win that does nothing but lessen our odds at landing a franchise altering player in this year's draft.

I’ll take any of the top 4 honestly

 

Would be crushed if we finish #5 and miss out on all of them 

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7 minutes ago, Viper007 said:

Huh!?!!?! Cause EP or KUZ will act differently than Bo did in that situation?  I don't understand what you're getting at.  EP or Kuz wouldn't do anything either just like Bo.

To be fair all 3 players aren’t in that roll. This expectation of wanting or expecting the captain to be the player to fight is a relatively new phenomena  the  origin of captaincy was to be a designate to speak to the officials in the half circle. Re- penalty questions etc. Alternate 2 or 3 if having no C. alternates allowed in half circle while the capt was on the bench. Further the captain is/ was the voice in the room. But the expectation of having a captain Defend everyone historically wasn't always up to the capt. Since the taming of the game ,role players aren’t around as much as they used to be. Maybe that’s where this expectation came from ? As old as I am I can honestly say captains fighting hasn’t always been the case. Not saying they should or shouldn’t but not fighting doesn’t make the captain any less of a leader. 

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27 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

False. Finishing dead last guarantees a better chance at first overall, which is something this franchise desperately needs and is actually in a position to go for this year.

 

This is a useless win that does nothing but lessen our odds at landing a franchise altering player in this year's draft.

We already have 10 points on Columbus, 9 on Chicago and 7 on the Ducks. The way those teams play this year there's no chance we are gonna out-suck all of them and finish dead last, so you might as well get used to the idea now. And finishing 2nd or 5th worst doesn't dramatically change the odds at Bedard, so we might as well win some games here and there.

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59 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

I'm sure people will look back on this game fondly when Bedard is destroying us as a member of the Hawks for the next 15 years. 

Who will Bedard be playing with in Chicago?  Max Domi?  Taylor Raddysh?  Sam Lafferty?

 

Not even Jesus will be able to put up points with those plugs.  The only person Bedard will be playing with in Chicago is himself...

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20 minutes ago, chon derry said:

To be fair all 3 players aren’t in that roll. This expectation of wanting or expecting the captain to be the player to fight is a relatively new phenomena  the  origin of captaincy was to be a designate to speak to the officials in the half circle. Re- penalty questions etc. Alternate 2 or 3 if having no C. alternates allowed in half circle while the capt was on the bench. Further the captain is/ was the voice in the room. But the expectation of having a captain Defend everyone historically wasn't always up to the capt. Since the taming of the game ,role players aren’t around as much as they used to be. Maybe that’s where this expectation came from ? As old as I am I can honestly say captains fighting hasn’t always been the case. Not saying they should or shouldn’t but not fighting doesn’t make the captain any less of a leader. 

I don't think it's a situation where BO is the captain so he should be able to fight.  Most captains these days don't actually fight.  However, BO is 215 pounds and knows how to throw them.  So, putting the captaincy aside, you would think that he should be able to stick up for his teammates at least once in awhile, and maybe even throw a hit or two in a game.  BO has less hits than Petey.  People say hits don't matter.  If that is the case, then why does Petey hit?  Why doesn't he just do the fly bys like BO does?  Because Petey is a great competitor and wants to win, and that is what players do when they want to win, they go all out.  If BO was a Sedin, I wouldn't care whether he was physical or not.  But when you are 215 pounds you should be expected to use that size at some point in the hockey game.

 

I am disappointed that Petey outhits BO and that BO doesn't seem to want to engage physically in games anymore.  That's not the player he used to be and the guy I used to cheer for.  He's a different player now.  He has the talent to do it all really, which is the most disappointing thing about him.  When he came out of junior, he was known as a two way 200' player.  I don't see that in him at all since he turned pro.  Yes, he takes on all of the tough assignments, but frankly he is not very good at it.  He does it by default.  But now, we have Petey who is much better defensively, so we don't really need BO for that role anymore.  He is now a faceoff specialist who can score goals.  His goals can be replaced and we can get a 3rd line centre to replace his faceoffs.  I don't see much of a leader in him either right now.  Petey has taken over the team leadership IMO.

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20 minutes ago, Rubik said:

We already have 10 points on Columbus, 9 on Chicago and 7 on the Ducks. The way those teams play this year there's no chance we are gonna out-suck all of them and finish dead last, so you might as well get used to the idea now. And finishing 2nd or 5th worst doesn't dramatically change the odds at Bedard, so we might as well win some games here and there.

If we're capable of "winning some games here and there", then so are any of the teams below us. Chicago had actually been doing relatively well over their last handful of games until tonight. And besides, it's not just Bedard. While Bedard is obviously THE prize, any of the top 4 could be franchise altering, and every win lessens the chance of landing one of those guys. 

 

Useless win is useless win. The longer this franchise doesn't embrace the tank the longer it will remain in mediocrity.

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