Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 hours ago, BPA said: How do you figure that??? Not the best stat but Miller is -14 while Bo is +3. Horvat is a -65 throughout his career. Miller is a +28. Why do people only look at this year when they talk about Horvat? He's been in the league 9 years. He's an average defensive player. Got one Selke vote in 9 years from Ben Kuzma. This myth that he is some kind of defensive guru ala ROR or Bergeron is quite laughable really... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 10:32 PM, N7Nucks said: He's our best prospect now. Goes to show how rough our pool is. I mean this season seems like Klimovich is really coming into his own. He's only still 20 yo. I think he's gotta be like #2 behind Räty now, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Horvat is a -65 throughout his career. Miller is a +28. Why do people only look at this year when they talk about Horvat? He's been in the league 9 years. He's an average defensive player. Got one Selke vote in 9 years from Ben Kuzma. This myth that he is some kind of defensive guru ala ROR or Bergeron is quite laughable really... Guess the Islanders will realize how defensively average he is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, CanucksFan8353 said: To the poster that wondered where Bo ends up. It’s the Oilers without a doubt. McDavid and him are extremely close. The Isles don’t stand a chance of re-signing. LOL. That would be devastating for the Canucks. Bo coming back to the division, to haunt the team that traded him. Oilers are all offense, no defense and no goaltender. I can't see Horvat going to Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: Guess the Islanders will realize how defensively average he is then. I'm sure Horvat won't be their shutdown centre or on their first unit PK. He was brought in to score goals with Barzal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 10:03 PM, DeNiro said: 19-8-3 to get to 96 and even that might not be enough. I mean any team could sneak in sure. But they’ve gotta beat out the Caps, Pens, Panthers, and Sabres. Even the Sens are right there with them if they won their two games in hand. It’s an extremely long shot. Good for us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: I'm sure Horvat won't be their shutdown centre or on their first unit PK. He was brought in to score goals with Barzal... So outscore their problems. At least they got a decent defense right? RIGHT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I mean this season seems like Klimovich is really coming into his own. He's only still 20 yo. I think he's gotta be like #2 behind Räty now, no? Klimovich is going to be a star. He has all the tools. Big, strong, fast, great shot. He needs to work on his defensive game, but Colliton is working that out. I say he makes the Canucks in 2 years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: So outscore their problems. At least they got a decent defense right? RIGHT? They have an excellent goalie and an above average defence. They are a defence first oriented team. Typical Lou team, just like his teams in Jersey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Ballisticsports. said: For me it was when Domi cross checked Joshua right into the net and Bo ignored Domi completely , I am sure Joshua who is on that line would have hated sticking up for Horvat ever again after that- Bo is not some skinny kid he has to ignore supporting his teammates- I was done with him then after supporting him No way BO was going to jump Domi and risk injury. His retirement contract is more important than sticking up for his teammates... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I mean this season seems like Klimovich is really coming into his own. He's only still 20 yo. I think he's gotta be like #2 behind Räty now, no? I like Klimo, I'd feel really sh*tty about our last draft if Lekkerimaki isn't at least 2. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Ballisticsports. said: For me it was when Domi cross checked Joshua right into the net and Bo ignored Domi completely , I am sure Joshua who is on that line would have hated sticking up for Horvat ever again after that- Bo is not some skinny kid he has to ignore supporting his teammates- I was done with him then after supporting him 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: No way BO was going to jump Domi and risk injury. His retirement contract is more important than sticking up for his teammates... Bo is great friends with max domi, they were linemates for 3 years in London. No way he would have gone after him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, coryberg said: Bo is great friends with max domi, they were linemates for 3 years in London. No way he would have gone after him. I remember when the Primeau brothers fought. Their mom was crying in the stands. If two brothers can fight, at the very least BO can crosscheck one of his friends. Also, I don't think BO is friends with Sergachev who cheap shotted Garland. BO was right there as well and just watched... 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I remember when the Primeau brothers fought. Their mom was crying in the stands. If two brothers can fight, at the very least BO can crosscheck one of his friends. Also, I don't think BO is friends with Sergachev who cheap shotted Garland. BO was right there as well and just watched... Exactly. These points might seem overrated by some or seen as minor no big deal details but this is the kind of stuff the team needs to rectify. I am sure the Canucks would have loved to keep Bo's scoring and faceoffs but Rutherford/Allvin very likely knew from the onset this trade was going to have to happen. The unpopular decisions they spoke of. I am excited to see how Tocchet can reach a player like Miller and mold that passion he has. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Horvat is a -65 throughout his career. Miller is a +28. Why do people only look at this year when they talk about Horvat? He's been in the league 9 years. He's an average defensive player. Got one Selke vote in 9 years from Ben Kuzma. This myth that he is some kind of defensive guru ala ROR or Bergeron is quite laughable really... I do agree that Bo's defensive game is pretty overrated but the +/- stats are also a product of your linemates/team too. If we're comparing Miller to Horvat in that department, let's not forget that Bo played on some pretty horrendous canucks lineups in the past near decade that were finishing bottom 5... while Miller played on NYR teams that were good enough to make the playoffs every year he was there and then to an even more stacked Tampa Bay. Bo's a good face-off guy but yeah he was no means a defensive specialist. No ROR or Bergeron, not even comparable to Kesler. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Horvat is a -65 throughout his career. Miller is a +28. Why do people only look at this year when they talk about Horvat? He's been in the league 9 years. He's an average defensive player. Got one Selke vote in 9 years from Ben Kuzma. This myth that he is some kind of defensive guru ala ROR or Bergeron is quite laughable really... Lol. So you’re not taking into account that he’s been on a bad team for pretty much his entire career?? That he’s often put on the defensive duties against other teams top lines?? Miller joined the Canucks in 2019. +11 -7 +15 -14 Bo from 2019 -15 -6 +3 +3 Neither are defensive stalwarts. BUT who does the coach put out to take the draws or go against the other teams top lines?? Who does the coach put out there in the dying minutes?? It’s Bo every time. So don’t tell me the Miller is so much better at defending than Bo when that is far from the truth. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Coconuts said: Sorry, but that doesn't mean jack. There's always subtext that comes into play. You may be right, but there's always the possibility that there's something going on behind the scenes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 hours ago, BarnBurner said: Look at how Petey isn't even looking at him. lol. is this gossip girl now or what? who cares bro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: lol. is this gossip girl now or what? who cares bro Yeah right, who cares. Buzz off bro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: There's always subtext that comes into play. You may be right, but there's always the possibility that there's something going on behind the scenes. Sorry, but that doesn't mean jack. Edited February 4, 2023 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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