YearoftheNuck Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Even after Lysell’s weak WJC performance, he still might have a bit of promise with the rookie campaign he’s having in the A. Would you consider doing something like this: To Van: Smith Lysell To Bos: 3rd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: God damn… this is the toxic negativity drance passes onto the fan base, literally implies unrealistic business expectations, trust me management is 1000 times more competent than Thomas Drance and yourself… I have no idea where some people's fascination with blaming some media pundit for all the bad in the world comes from. If anything, Drance has been shockingly optimistic recently. He was one of the few people who wouldn't back down, even in December, that this team would likely be finishing in the mid/high 80s point wise by the end of season. Further more, the "business expectation" you refer to isn't Drances plan in the slightest. He doesn't think we should tear it down. He's been open about his idea of how to turn this franchise around, he says it at nauseum. It's "just stop digging". He doesn't want the team to make bold moves to change the franchise drastically, he just wants the team to sit back and slow roll things for a bit. If a post is a regurgitation point for point something a pundit said, I would have time for that argument. But I have never heard Drance express any of these ideas before. This post, to me, shows you actually don't know Drances take on things and in reality just want someone to blame. I don't even like Drance myself, I find him generally loud and pushy (which are the type of people I find irritating). But the fascination by some to blame him for every bad take is weird. Edited February 21, 2023 by MeanSeanBean 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: God damn… this is the toxic negativity drance passes onto the fan base, literally implies unrealistic business expectations, trust me management is 1000 times more competent than Thomas Drance and yourself… Yeah, and tear it down to what? Wait and pray for another 10 years or more? Just ask Buffalo, Edmonton, Arizona, etc, how that's working out. First of all, unless you have the right mind "building" the team, it's all for not. Four 1st OA picks, 3rd OA, Nurse, and what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: God damn… this is the toxic negativity drance passes onto the fan base, literally implies unrealistic business expectations, trust me management is 1000 times more competent than Thomas Drance and yourself… Drance is an a hole. He is a complete scumbag that is always over excited, sarcastic, always negative and an arrogant pompous clown. He has no credibility and doesn’t add to anything when it comes to his take on the Canucks. If it’s not his vision, it’s wrong. Sorry Drance, you’re just a rat “reporter”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, YearoftheNuck said: Even after Lysell’s weak WJC performance, he still might have a bit of promise with the rookie campaign he’s having in the A. Would you consider doing something like this: To Van: Smith Lysell To Bos: 3rd round pick Yeah I make that trade. Smith is on an expiring contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Drance is an a hole. He is a complete scumbag that is always over excited, sarcastic, always negative and an arrogant pompous clown. He has no credibility and doesn’t add to anything when it comes to his take on the Canucks. If it’s not his vision, it’s wrong. Sorry Drance, you’re just a rat “reporter”. I’ve always said he’s nothing more than your average Canucks twitter troll who somehow managed to get his hands on media credentials. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I have no idea where some people's fascination with blaming some media pundit for all the bad in the world comes from. If anything, Drance has been shockingly optimistic recently. He was one of the few people who wouldn't back down, even in December, that this team would likely be finishing in the mid/high 80s point wise by the end of season. Further more, the "business expectation" you refer to isn't Drances plan in the slightest. He doesn't think we should tear it down. He's been open about his idea of how to turn this franchise around, he says it at nauseum. It's "just stop digging". He doesn't want the team to make bold moves to change the franchise drastically, he just wants the team to sit back and slow roll things for a bit. If a post is a regurgitation point for point something a pundit said, I would have time for that argument. But I have never heard Drance express any of these ideas before. Drance has contradicted his points over and over again, also he will just bash on players then interview them later that day playing all buddy buddy in the dressing room… he’s toxic AF and anybody that fails to see that is also enabling and encouraging that behaviour from our media members. Example faber is a great media guy, he criticizes when criticism is needed and optimistic when it’s due, drance will double down when he’s wrong rather than admit it which shows me he’s a condescending person… I mean torts recent comments kinda says it all, a lot of our media is a bunch of goofs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Pears said: I’ve always said he’s nothing more than your average Canucks twitter troll who somehow managed to get his hands on media credentials. He plays a part. The fact so many people are constantly upset with him means he does it well. That's how media works, and that's why he gets the credential. He generates far more conversation then a guy like Shah who generally gets far more radio and tv time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: He plays a part. The fact so many people are constantly upset with him means he does it well. That's how media works, and that's why he gets the credential. He generates far more conversation then a guy like Shah who generally gets far more radio and tv time. Yo I think I found Drances account! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, LegionOfDoom said: Drance has contradicted his points over and over again, also he will just bash on players then interview them later that day playing all buddy buddy in the dressing room… he’s toxic AF and anybody that fails to see that is also enabling and encouraging that behaviour from our media members. Example faber is a great media guy, he criticizes when criticism is needed and optimistic when it’s due, drance will double down when he’s wrong rather than admit it which shows me he’s a condescending person… I mean torts recent comments kinda says it all, a lot of our media is a bunch of goofs Yeaaah, I disagree with you on that first point. You go from saying he constantly contradicts himself to he will double down. Now I'll agree with the double down thing, he definitely does that. He's unwavering in his opinion, and there's aspects to that quality I respect. But I don't hear him contradict himself. Faber is one my favorites as well. But the fact people are so upset about Drance means he's doing his job well. He even says it on the air, it's a part he plays. If he's being blamed for all negativity in Vancouver, that means he spell worked on you. Clearly the franchise likes him, then give him an hour and a half of radio a day and throw him on tv from time to time. In contrast to someone truely negative like Paterson who had his media privileges revoked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Drance is not worth your time. Ignore him and hopefully he fades away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: Yo I think I found Drances account! Again, if you actually followed Drance you would know he uses Artem Chubarov as he handle, not an actor. I just find it humour he has the ability to live rent free in some many people's heads. He's such a troll, I bet that makes his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I find it comical that Gavrikov is worth a 1st and 3rd or + and some media continue to suggest Schenn is worth a 3rd. Schenn's value is a 2nd + it is insane to think otherwise lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I find it comical that Gavrikov is worth a 1st and 3rd or + and some media continue to suggest Schenn is worth a 3rd. Schenn's value is a 2nd + it is insane to think otherwise lol I mean... Gavrikov plays toughs and averages 5 more minutes of ice time a night. Gavrikov is the far superior player and a team will pony up to get him because of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: He plays a part. The fact so many people are constantly upset with him means he does it well. That's how media works, and that's why he gets the credential. He generates far more conversation then a guy like Shah who generally gets far more radio and tv time. And that’s precisely why Sat gets said radio and tv time, because he’s a genuine professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I have no idea where some people's fascination with blaming some media pundit for all the bad in the world comes from. If anything, Drance has been shockingly optimistic recently. He was one of the few people who wouldn't back down, even in December, that this team would likely be finishing in the mid/high 80s point wise by the end of season. Further more, the "business expectation" you refer to isn't Drances plan in the slightest. He doesn't think we should tear it down. He's been open about his idea of how to turn this franchise around, he says it at nauseum. It's "just stop digging". He doesn't want the team to make bold moves to change the franchise drastically, he just wants the team to sit back and slow roll things for a bit. If a post is a regurgitation point for point something a pundit said, I would have time for that argument. But I have never heard Drance express any of these ideas before. This post, to me, shows you actually don't know Drances take on things and in reality just want someone to blame. I don't even like Drance myself, I find him generally loud and pushy (which are the type of people I find irritating). But the fascination by some to blame him for every bad take is weird. I'm with you on your take of Drance. People who constantly bash him don't actually hear him and what his points are. If they did, they'd understand him better. He has lots of great insight. But good luck trying to find anyone who will actually argue Drance's points, point by point, as they'll quickly resort to bashing him without ever discussing his points. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pears said: And that’s precisely why Sat gets said radio and tv time, because he’s a genuine professional. But Drance still gets to make a career out of interviewing hockey players, executives and taking hockey. Reckon a lot of people around here would take that job in a heartbeat. 2 minutes ago, Jester13 said: I'm with you on your take of Drance. People who constantly bash him don't actually hear him and what his points are. If they did, they'd understand him better. He has lots of great insight. But good luck trying to find anyone who will actually argue Drance's points, point by point, as they'll quickly resort to bashing him without ever discussing his points. Be careful now, anyone who actually listens to different people's arguments, including Drance,s points instead of just saying bALd MAn BaD gets criticized dismissed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Again, if you actually followed Drance you would know he uses Artem Chubarov as he handle, not an actor. I just find it humour he has the ability to live rent free in some many people's heads. He's such a troll, I bet that makes his day. Does he use lube or spit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I mean... Gavrikov plays toughs and averages 5 more minutes of ice time a night. Gavrikov is the far superior player and a team will pony up to get him because of that. A good pickup by Boston. The Bruins got a great player in Lindholm last deadline and kept him. They know how to build a defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: Does he use lube or spit? When questioned or challenged you default to homophobia? Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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