awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I think we already did the thing, Bronek's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel the Bure Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: It always feels like we are the team who has players nobody wants or teams want to give us the worst return back. We (fans) overvalue our players; for example, we paid $56 million for Miller, who now doesn't fit our goals but is still a great player, so we trade him but encourage you to overpay for him because we'll keep him if no one pays too much. Garland and Boeser are treated the same way—if we don't receive our price, we keep them! Guess what, the rest of the league doesn't give a damn; keep them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, awalk said: I think we already did the thing, Bronek's Hronek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, eeeeergh said: This time really is different though, we have 2 franchise players and a potential top 10 goaltender hitting their primes, and its not fair to judge this management team against the mistake of the past regime. This management team has not traded our first round pick, like Benning did. Instead, with some maneuvering, they exchanged an expiring UFA Bo for a top-four RHD, and has been excellent at acquiring cheap or free quality assets (Filip Johansson, Kravtsov, Bear, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev). This is the best performed retool on the fly Ive seen so far. They got a good prospect for.. Riley Stillman? They got a pick for Lazar who they picked up for free as a UFA. They are managing assets extremely well. Was the 1st + 2nd an overpayment for Hronek? Maybe, it remains to be seen. But we cant judge that until we see him play. A team that sits at 27th in the league should have no thoughts of retooling on the fly because IT DOESN'T WORK. I think it's been proven enough. Sometimes you just have to wave the white flag. One major problem stands in the way of that. Aquilini's ego. It's way too big for this city. Yes we have three main players but really all we have done is guaranteed we are going to be mediocre yet again. We aren't close to being a contender. Contenders have way more than three players. Aquilini is toxic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: Where are all those people after the Hronek deal who said lets just see what they do after this trade? I feel so much closer to a playoff position right now. Did you actually think a full rebuild was happening by trade deadline. LMAO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: Hronek Hronek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: Hronek Woooosh over your head bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, eeeeergh said: Hronek Hronk hronkkkkk Like a Canada geese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Did you actually think a full rebuild was happening by trade deadline. LMAO They have to get rid of wingers and cap and they have done neither. There is a reason everyone is laughing at us right now. Garland has been doing great lately. Get rid of him. Find a way not excuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Naslund Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Did you actually think a full rebuild was happening by trade deadline. LMAO This guy probably plays NHL 23 where you can rebuild your whole roster in 1 year. Sign matthews, pastrnak and Dobson in free agency. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nergish Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mando27 said: Have a feeling that at the end of the day the Canucks will be a team that plays in the NHL. ...but should probably play one league down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: They have to get rid of wingers and cap and they have done neither. There is a reason everyone is laughing at us right now. Garland has been doing great lately. Get rid of him. Find a way not excuses. I forgot we can't do that after this season is over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks-12 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I kinda wanna keep Brock now. I think he’s going to turn into the star we all hoped for. Wouldn’t mind trading Garland for a Defenseman 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, awalk said: Hronk hronkkkkk Like a Canada geese Hronk, Eh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, .Naslund said: This guy probably plays NHL 23 where you can rebuild your whole roster in 1 year. Sign matthews, pastrnak and Dobson in free agency. Yes, because you can't come up with a good argument you have to subject the rest of us to childish insults. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, awalk said: Hronk hronkkkkk Like a Canada geese Funny, whenever I hear the name PIONK, I think of the geese. Or is it a donkey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Hronk, Eh. I'd be more okay with the deal if fans make Hronking noises every time he touches the puck, similar to the Luuuuuuu chants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Canuckfanforlife82 said: A team that sits at 27th in the league should have no thoughts of retooling on the fly because IT DOESN'T WORK. I think it's been proven enough. Sometimes you just have to wave the white flag. One major problem stands in the way of that. Aquilini's ego. It's way too big for this city. Yes we have three main players but really all we have done is guaranteed we are going to be mediocre yet again. We aren't close to being a contender. Contenders have way more than three players. Aquilini is toxic. The reality is more nuanced than "oh look we finished 27th" 1. We didn't have an NHL goaltender for most of this year. We got 0 help from our string of backups. 2. We had no problem scoring buckets, but we had no defense-first defenders who could help our goalie, nor did we have any help with controlled zone exits from anyone outside of Hughes 3. We did not have the personnel to run an effective penalty kill unit The reality is these problems are not that hard to solve, IF you can move out money or use buyouts to create room. The Bo trade was smart - we lost a marginal amount of scoring (and he was not good on the PK) and acquired a top-4 RHD, which was something we sorely lacked. It also gave us another threat on the powerplay. So here's what we're missing now: 1. Moving some money (Garland or Boeser, and OEL and Myers). One of Garland or Boeser will be moved, I'm fairly confident. Either Garland is bought out, or one of the two is traded with maybe a bit of retention. OEL is bought out. Myers gets traded once his real salary is down, and he becomes attractive to a bad team that needs to hit the cap floor but doesnt want to pay actual salary. 2. 2x defensive defensemen. One LHD one RHD. The LHD should be a cakewalk, theyre everywhere in abundance. The RD is harder, but definitely easier if theyre a defensive specialist, rather than someone like Hronek whos a rare commodity. 3. A penalty killing center. We may even hvae one in the system, but they are not hard to find. Jost or Poehling would do the job. Make those changes and we're a dangerous playoff team, given just how good we are offensively, and how good our goaltender can be. Again, we arent as far away as Thomas Drance (who does not have hair, not relevant, just thought id mention it) claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, awalk said: I'd be more okay with the deal if fans make Hronking noises every time he touches the puck, similar to the Luuuuuuu chants. As he's skating. "These Canuck fans are crazy...." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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