Nikita Tryamkin | D

[SilentSam]

5 hours ago, theo5789 said:

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-sign-freak-russian-defenceman-nikita-tryamkin

 

I guess this thread can come back full circle. If Tryamkin comes back this year, he may be the missing "freak of nature" we need to put us over the top.

 

Edit: I just realized that the article may be misleading. That was when we signed him in 2016 before anyone gets their hopes up just yet.

He played 60 games for us in 2016..

a 21 year old rookie that showed well and knocked hard against some of the leagues big PF’s.

That season gave Benning enough “hope” to offer him a 2 year 2m per after that season.

This isn’t about getting “hope” about a players type of play...  it’s the “hope” that he gets here to establish his game with the worlds best,.  This is where he should be.. living out his dream.

[theo5789]

6 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Thanks Theo for bringing me up and then crushing my hopes on this rainy Thursday. 
 

 

[theo5789]

3 hours ago, SilentSam said:

He played 60 games for us in 2016..

a 21 year old rookie that showed well and knocked hard against some of the leagues big PF’s.

That season gave Benning enough “hope” to offer him a 2 year 2m per after that season.

This isn’t about getting “hope” about a players type of play...  it’s the “hope” that he gets here to establish his game with the worlds best,.  This is where he should be.. living out his dream.

Well aware of all of this. I was just making a tongue in cheek comment off yours in fun.

 

[SilentSam]

1 hour ago, theo5789 said:

Well aware of all of this. I was just making a tongue in cheek comment off yours in fun.

 

[J.I.A.H.N]

The evolution of this team, cries out for some bigger players. It was nice to see Jake fight Zucker, but he looked like he was punching through a paper bag. Meaning it was a little weak for his weight class. McEwen looked better. Tryamkin, will not have to fight often, and will still punish with his hits.

 

The way I see it, Tryamkin will be able to play a solid defensive game, and more physical game, just through his size. He has matured and has realized even in the KHL, that this is life as a hockey player.

 

I know this is out there, but I actually think Tryamkin is an upgrade on Tanev, and that is no slight to Tanev. Tryamkin has size, reach, age, and shot over Tanev, and their defensive attributes are very similar, as well as their skating. I remind everyone of Tryamkin's last 3 months in Vancouver, where he, as a rookie, patrolled the RHD and controlled it. He at that time, played on a much weaker team. He was -7 on that team in 66 games, as a rookie. I see that improving this time around.

 

Tryamkin, will be an important part of our future, going far beyond the next 2 or 3 years. I hope McEwen gets more time up here and can fit in. Add another size oriented player, that can skate and score, and all of a sudden, I think we start showing we can handle the Wilson's of this league.

 

Failure to add this component, will make us good, but not great,

 

So, when I look at our future pieces...Tryamkin, McEwen, Lind, Podkolzin, Hoglander, Rathbone, Juolevi, Rafferty and Madden, I see some truculence and it will depend how Hoglander, Lind, and Podkolzin turn out, not only as skilled players, but as physical dominant players. I do not see the last 3 as having that quality. Not that they all have to have it.

 

I know, this is a little off the rails, but the truth is we need some size and aggression along with that skill...…..I believe Tryamkin fits that in spades

 

Just a little add on...……….The last year Tryamkin played the Canucks were a team -73 for/against

 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by janisahockeynut

[SilentSam]

6 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

The evolution of this team, cries out for some bigger players. It was nice to see Jake fight Zucker, but he looked like he was punching through a paper bag. Meaning it was a little weak for his weight class. McEwen looked better. Tryamkin, will not have to fight often, and will still punish with his hits.

 

The way I see it, Tryamkin will be able to play a solid defensive game, and more physical game, just through his size. He has matured and has realized even in the KHL, that this is life as a hockey player.

 

I know this is out there, but I actually think Tryamkin is an upgrade on Tanev, and that is no slight to Tanev. Tryamkin has size, reach, age, and shot over Tanev, and their defensive attributes are very similar, as well as their skating. I remind everyone of Tryamkin's last 3 months in Vancouver, where he, as a rookie, patrolled the RHD and controlled it. He at that time, played on a much weaker team. He was -7 on that team in 66 games, as a rookie. I see that improving this time around.

 

Tryamkin, will be an important part of our future, going far beyond the next 2 or 3 years. I hope McEwen gets more time up here and can fit in. Add another size oriented player, that can skate and score, and all of a sudden, I think we start showing we can handle the Wilson's of this league.

 

Failure to add this component, will make us good, but not great,

 

So, when I look at our future pieces...Tryamkin, McEwen, Lind, Podkolzin, Hoglander, Rathbone, Juolevi, Rafferty and Madden, I see some truculence and it will depend how Hoglander, Lind, and Podkolzin turn out, not only as skilled players, but as physical dominant players. I do not see the last 3 as having that quality. Not that they all have to have it.

 

I know, this is a little off the rails, but the truth is we need some size and aggression along with that skill...…..I believe Tryamkin fits that in spades

 

 

^^^. Finally,   F I N A L L Y,  some one gets me..    welcome to the dark side Jan !

Do t forget to copy and paste your quote to the Tanev thread..

cause if you don’t , I will !  
Now do up your chin strap,  the goons are coming..  but me and @Hairy Kneel have your back.

   Ps.  I really do feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.

Edited February 7, 2020 by SilentSam

[J.I.A.H.N]

1 minute ago, SilentSam said:

^^^. Finally,   F I N A L L Y,  some one gets me..    welcome to the dark side Jan !

Do t forget to copy and paste your quote to the Tanev thread..

cause if you don’t , I will !  
Now do up your chin strap,  the goons are coming..  but me and @Hairy Kneel have your back.

I was always here, Sam...…...always here!

 

Nice to know you have my back, but it is ok, I'll take this one!

 

[SilentSam]

Just now, janisahockeynut said:

I was always here, Sam...…...always here!

 

Nice to know you have my back, but it is ok, I'll take this one!

 

Jan, there’s another kid we should target in the off season..

the Habs 2nd rnd pick last year

Dman Romanov.  Kid was a war horse for Russia in the WJC.

id do Dipietro and 3rd or a good prospect for him and see what talks begin from that.

C Price is showing age, but not movable for a few years yet.. Dipietro gives them a light in the tunnel.

Romanov and Tryamkin..     the boards would have craters in them, and glass would be changed nightly.

[J.I.A.H.N]

4 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Jan, there’s another kid we should target in the off season..

the Habs 2nd rnd pick last year

Dman Romanov.  Kid was a war horse for Russia in the WJC.

id do Dipietro and 3rd or a good prospect for him and see what talks begin from that.

C Price is showing age, but not movable for a few years yet.. Dipietro gives them a light in the tunnel.

Romanov and Tryamkin..     the boards would have craters in them, and glass would be changed nightly.

Yeah, I seen him...…..I would like to see what we have in Tryamkin, Rafferty and Woo first

He is a nice Hockey player, though....from what I have heard, Montreal really wants him

So, I think it takes a huge over-payment to get him...HUGE! He is slated to be a #1/2 type Offensive Dman

I like him too!

But lets not derail the Tryamkin thread.....PM me if you want to talk about him

[qwijibo]

16 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Jan, there’s another kid we should target in the off season..

the Habs 2nd rnd pick last year

Dman Romanov.  Kid was a war horse for Russia in the WJC.

id do Dipietro and 3rd or a good prospect for him and see what talks begin from that.

C Price is showing age, but not movable for a few years yet.. Dipietro gives them a light in the tunnel.

Romanov and Tryamkin..     the boards would have craters in them, and glass would be changed nightly.

Montreal has Primeau in their system. He’s already a better prospect than Depietro. Romanov is their top D prospect.  Bergevin was just in Russia meeting with him a few weeks ago. They know what they have in him and he fills a huge need (top 4 LHD). He’s literally one of their most untouchable prospects. 

[aGENT]

11 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I know this is out there, but I actually think Tryamkin is an upgrade on Tanev, and that is no slight to Tanev. 

There's little doubt that physically, Tryamkin has enviable size/reach attributes, health and age on his side over Tanev.

 

But Tanev is ELITE defensively. Anyone thinking Tryamkin could show up and replace (let alone 'upgrade') Tanev's smarts, reads and sound positional play etc...

 

I'd prefer we have the good fortune to utilize both, personally.

[theo5789]

13 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

Just a little add on...……….The last year Tryamkin played the Canucks were a team -73 for/against

Without getting reamed on over an add-on item, what is the point of this comment?

[PhillipBlunt]

14 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

Without getting reamed on over an add-on item, what is the point of this comment?

[theo5789]

11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

[Goal:thecup]

This from:

https://thecanuckway.com/2020/02/01/canucks-will-nikita-tryamkin-return-to-vancouver/ 

The Vancouver Canucks own the NHL rights to Nikita Tryamkin. Rumor has it that he wants to return to the NHL. Should Vancouver give him another shot?

It was a hard day for the Vancouver Canucks back in 2017 when the hulking Nikita Tryamkin turned down a two-year contract extension and bolted back to Russia to join the Yekaterinburg Automobilist of the KHL. According to CBC News, the six-foot-seven defender had other plans.

Tryamkin was high on Benning’s list to ink an extension, but the blueliner wasn’t happy with his overall ice time on the west coast and he sure wasn’t willing to be sent down to Utica for conditioning. He had this to say in an interview that was translated by Google.

“Sometimes I just did not understand why. I could play 20 minutes, I could play 16, I could play 12. And on what it depended, I did not understand.”

It struck deep in the hearts of Canucks fans when the news broke that he wouldn’t be returning to Vancouver, instead, he ditched North America entirely and signed for three years overseas. Looking now though, the three-year contract is nearly up in Russia, it expires on April 30th and it will leave Tryamkin without a professional hockey contract.

According to the subscription website, “The Athletic”, Harman Dayal reports that Tryamkin is frustrated with the KHL and is eyeing a return to the National Hockey League. Summing up the article, Tryamkin has turned sour in Russia after his captaincy was stripped and his role on the team seeing a slow decline through the course of the year. His goal is to sign in Vancouver and restart his NHL career.

 

Watching the Canucks win games and lead the Pacific Division, who wouldn’t want to be a part of that? Especially with new superstars since 2017. The addition of Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes could go a long way in convincing someone across the world to join the party.

As you can see above, Tryamkin is checking in on Canucks’ practice in New York. This is something he has done before, a simple wave from the comment section to say, “Hey, don’t forget about your friend, Nikita. I’m still here.”

The Canucks are facing some serious questions on defense next season. Three of the main roster’s six defencemen have expiring contracts and with Vancouver tight to the cap, it might be wise for Benning to let someone walk in favor of the towering Russian. He’s cheaper, he’s bigger and the Canucks could use a little more grit.

Could you imagine the space Tryamkin could create for a player like Hughes? How about the protection he would provide for Pettersson? Even a backend duo of giants in the likes of Tryamkin and Tyler Myers is enough to keep you on the edge of your seat. For now, it’s just rumored, but when the month of May rolls around, it’ll be interesting to see how the Canucks respond.

[PhillipBlunt]

5 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

[kylecanuck]

2 hours ago, aGENT said:

There's little doubt that physically, Tryamkin has enviable size/reach attributes, health and age on his side over Tanev.

 

But Tanev is ELITE defensively. Anyone thinking Tryamkin could show up and replace (let alone 'upgrade') Tanev's smarts, reads and sound positional play etc...

 

I'd prefer we have the good fortune to utilize both, personally.

It could be an upgrade over Tanev though, pretty quick. Tanev may have the better smarts and positioning, but Tryamkins size and better skating does make up for that a bit already. Add in the fact that Tanev is injury prone, (and not hurt yet this season which scares me if we want to do well in the playoffs) Tryamkin seems like a healthy player that if in shape could do well in the playoffs. 

 

 

Weighing both sets of skills, I would rather have Tryamkin going forward if I was forced to choose. (Trade Tanev before he gets hurt is my honest vote, his value is peaked right now)

[theo5789]

16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

[PhillipBlunt]

2 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

[stawns]

7 minutes ago, kylecanuck said:

It could be an upgrade over Tanev though, pretty quick. Tanev may have the better smarts and positioning, but Tryamkins size and better skating does make up for that a bit already. Add in the fact that Tanev is injury prone, (and not hurt yet this season which scares me if we want to do well in the playoffs) Tryamkin seems like a healthy player that if in shape could do well in the playoffs. 

 

 

Weighing both sets of skills, I would rather have Tryamkin going forward if I was forced to choose. (Trade Tanev before he gets hurt is my honest vote, his value is peaked right now)

Tanev is a far, far better skater than Try is.  The only way Try is an upgrade is size and strength.