-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Quote The gap between what the Calgary Flames are offering Johnny Gaudreau and what the restricted free agent is seeking on his new deal is significant. The two sides, who reportedly won't be talking while Gaudreau plays at the World Cup, are believed to be approximately $1.5 million apart in terms of average annual valuation, according to Eric Francis of the Calgary Sun, who writes: Sources say Gaudreau’s agent, Lewis Gross, is asking for a payday in the $8-million range while the Flames are pushing to pay between what Sean Monahan signed for ($6.375 million annual average value) and what captain Mark Giordano makes (a team-high $6.75 million AAV). The 23-year-old has quickly emerged as the new face of the Flames, leading the team in scoring in each of his first two seasons and finishing 2015-16 in a tie for the fifth-highest point total in the NHL. That he's only played 160 games and is a restricted free agent limits his leverage, however, and the argument can be made - and is likely being made by Calgary - that a big-time payday coming out of an entry-level deal isn't prudent. Still, Gaudreau's production warrants a deal comparable to his peers, and he is an important piece for a Flames team that has the look of an up-and-comer in the Western Conference, meaning a deal is still likely to get done before the puck drops on the regular season. But there's still a considerable amount of work to be done, it would seem. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1096694 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I think he'll settle for $7.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam126 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 So, that would leave the Flames with how much cap space left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Gaudreau is no more valuable than either of those team-mates - and has played two whole NHL seasons. He should come in at a similar cap hit to his captain and Monahan - both of whom are far more complete players than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 That's fair on Gaudreau's part to ask for. Will probably end up agreeing to something lower in the $7M-$7.5M range. I'd be kinda mad if I was Monahan but it is what it is. Pay him or else someone else will. Hockey's always been like this, just the nature of the game. And for Calgary's sake, they best pay the damn talented youngster. He's the real deal, for sure stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 He kinda is the future of the Flames and only getting better and better. Flames could easily move a little cap for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 These reports always come out when two sides reach a stalemate. My guess is he signs for around 7 mil in the next two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Midget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckles80 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, oldnews said: Gaudreau is no more valuable than either of those team-mates - and has played two whole NHL seasons. He should come in at a similar cap hit to his captain and Monahan - both of whom are far more complete players than he is. It really matters what term the team wants too though, it doesn't say in the article but if they are wanting to sign him long term 6-8 years, well it eats up prime UFA years for him. He's 23, so say the flames want him to sign for the full 8 years, that takes him to 31 and hockey players peak from around 27-32. So basically the Flames are taking away his max earning years, they are buying out his UFA status - this is probably the issue. Sure he gets 8 years at 6 mil and that's alot of money and alot of security, but think about it from his perspective if he's confident in his ability to not only play as well as he is now but improve? As the cap goes up, so do salaries and so if he was a ufa at say 27 and his points keep improving, with a cap moving higher, the kid could get paid 8-10 mil as a UFA by then easily for those next SEVEN years (max you can sign as a UFA). So there's probably more to it and yes its give and take but my guess is that's the issue. He probably would take Monohan money but for 4 years and the Flames probably don't want that because they know what he's going to command at 28 years old and its alot more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Sometimes I wish Pronger still played, 1 big hit and this kids done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 8mil would make him the second highest paid LW in NHL. Not sure he is worth that. If he was center than 8mil becomes in the ball park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I'm seeing comparisons to when Edmonton signed Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, and Eberle to those similar 6M per deals. Gaudreau shouldn't make a significantly different amount than Monohan and Bennett should probably be in the same ball park, if he continues to develop, once his ELC is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 24 minutes ago, Jam126 said: So, that would leave the Flames with how much cap space left? They would be over the cap if he signed for that much. The can barely afford to squeeze him in at 7 mil. They're likely going to have to make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckles80 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Sometimes I wish Pronger still played, 1 big hit and this kids done. You can't hit him, its like trying to squish a jellyfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 8 mil may be a little much. 7 sure I could see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Nuckles80 said: You can't hit him, its like trying to squish a jellyfish You can, it's just risky because you're more likely to hit him in the head and get suspended. Datsyuk showing how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckles80 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just now, DeNiro said: You can, it's just risky because you're more likely to hit him in the head and get suspended. Datsyuk showing how it's done. Seldom happens he's hard to line up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Careful not to break the homunculus Tryamkin, it's expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 There's no way he's asking that. That's as much as Stamkos re-signed for. 6.5M I think they'll agree with. 8M is too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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