Jägermeister Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Whoa...ouch man. Ouch Cam at the very least strung together a couple seasons as a decent top 4 guy. I don't see that in the cards for Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Like others have said if you are almost 23 and can't crack the Oilers top 7 D then you are pretty much a bust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 It'll be interesting to see how Sam develops, but the other Reinhart's seem to have "failure to launch" syndrome at the NHL level. Perhaps they peak to young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wilbur said: It'll be interesting to see how Sam develops, but the other Reinhart's seem to have "failure to launch" syndrome at the NHL level. Perhaps they peak to young? I wouldn't say that about Sam; 23 goals in his first NHL season. Max was a 3rd rounder, so it wasn't likely he would light it up. Being a 4th overall definitely puts Griffin in 'bust' territory. Maybe trade a Canuck player that is struggling (Cederholm?) for him. Green might find a way to help him in Utica. Get the 'skating coach' working with him. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 No thanks. Do not like Reinharts game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Apparently Trader Jim's nephew has been a pleasant surprise, while his game just might not be cut for the modern game (hence the Isles trading him?) Anyways, it's not really all that surprising given how the age of the mammoth but slow defenseman has passed. What's more surprising just might be why the Oil gave two high picks to get a prospect, while we rip Benning for giving McCann and a 2nd for Gudbranson who's an established 20+ minute guy. #digress Quote http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/griffin-reinhart-cant-get-over-hump-gets-cut-by-oilersAs one veteran pro scout said of Reinhart: “he’s got talent but maybe his feet are just too slow for today’s fast game.”“Griffin has to improve his game in every area to be a National Hockey Leaguer,” said head man Todd McLellan. “He has to get stronger, his (defensive) reads. He has to get down into the American League and understand that because he’s got work to do to get back here.” “I put a lot of work in in the off-season,” he said. “My strength, lots of power-skating. be more aggressive, play with more urgency, closing on people.” But, he didn’t show McLellan enough.“Unfortunately training camp is short and you have to expose your skills and talent quickly and in our opinion, there were others here to beat him and knocked him down.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: I wouldn't say that about Sam; 23 goals in his first NHL season. Max was a 3rd rounder, so it wasn't likely he would light it up. Being a 4th overall definitely puts Griffin in 'bust' territory. Maybe trade a Canuck player that is struggling (Cederholm?) for him. Green might find a way to help him in Utica. Get the 'skating coach' working with him. lol I agree, I wasn't willing to put Sam in that category yet. His first year was promising for sure. We'll see how he goes from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 38 minutes ago, Warhippy said: But I'd have taken a flyer on him had he been free. Wasn't sure if he was still property or not. Shame too because I think he's got that thing CDC loves so much Potential So did Schroeder and Hodgson. 37 minutes ago, 6string said: If he can't make Edmonton's back end then I'd say put a fork in him he's done. 35 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Is that from lack of skill or lack of desire? Either way (or both), why would we want that? If he cannot make the Oilers' roster, what possible use do we have for him? Would be nothing but a waste of a contract and the asset to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: So did Schroeder and Hodgson. Ya but that doesn't count cause they were our prospects. It's only every one else's prospects that have potential worth everything we can offer. That's the CDC baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I'd pick him up for something cheap like a 4th and a low end prospect. Couldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 And people were belly aching about JB not making deals for the fans at the draft. Also, beginning to think JB was a huge factor in BOS, Chirelli is bombing big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Sbisa for Griffin and the St. Louis 3rd rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I think the Oilers are giving up too early on him, considering their current (lack of) depth at D. He only has 37 NHL games experience, but also only 22 The issue is the Canucks have quite a few LHD, and he'd have difficulty cracking a spot: Edler Hutton Sbisa Tryamkin Pedan Juolevi Brisebois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: OK, going to make this as simple as possible 22 years old. 6 foot 4.5 inches tall. 221 pounds. Former 4th overall pick that was misused in New York then shuttled off to Edmonton where young players go to die. He is a North Van boy who can actually skate VERY well and while not stand out amazing at any 1 point on defense was showing as a junior to be solid all around thus justifying his 4th overall status. He is or should be cheap, he is local...should Benning try to pick him up? Maybe see if we can entice his brothers over later as well with a home and bloodlines offer? Edit** Wasn't aware he was still Oilers property (poor kid) edited title and thread for content Yes if he wasn't Oilers property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: Is that from lack of skill or lack of desire? I really don't enough about him other than his hockey lineage, I would be better off discussing our group here and in Utica as to who can take a regular shift in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Sbisa for Griffin and the St. Louis 3rd rounder? Do we really want to upgrade their defense for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Do we really want to upgrade their defense for them? ZZZZiiiiiiiiiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsofthands Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 edmonton gave up a first and second for him, I dont think theyd be in a hurry to reveal the obvious losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 hours ago, coastal1 said: you do understand that an NHL club has a maximum of 50 contracts allowed at any time. Very simply it means that if we take on the contract of this player then we have to give up another player from the organization. Is he free? Sure. Is he worth more than his cost? Very doubtful. But then propose what contract you would let go of or this is a meaningless choice. I'm not going to pretend that I'm familiar with every player we have under contract, but it would shock me if we didn't have somebody under contract with less upside than Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Chiarelli must be getting sick of every GM calling him up offering garbage for his assets trying to get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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