Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Madden has the drive and skill to be as good as Gaudette and Gaudette has the drive and skill to be as good as Horvat...so I don't think we need to worry about Madden...his only issue might be trying to make the Canucks next year...even if we trade Sutter he would have to outplay AG because Green won't play him at 4C, I hope Madden is alright with a year in Utica or playing the wing.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Madden has the drive and skill to be as good as Gaudette and Gaudette has the drive and skill to be as good as Horvat...so I don't think we need to worry about Madden...his only issue might be trying to make the Canucks next year...even if we trade Sutter he would have to outplay AG because Green won't play him at 4C, I hope Madden is alright with a year in Utica or playing the wing.... For all the skill and compete this young lad shows he still needs to bulk up a bit before he plies his trade in the NHL; I think a year in Utica would benefit both the team and him. Gives him time to add body mass and adjust to the pro life as well. The future looks bright for him but lets not be in a rush, rather let him fully develop in Utica than possibly struggle in Vancouver. Training camp next year will more than likely determine if he is ready or needs more seasoning. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: When our D prospects are mentioned, most people seem to only be naming Woo and Rathbone, but Tryamkin still has to be added to the mix here and may still be the strongest D prospect of them all. Also, when it comes to the centres, I agree that the young centres on our roster are very strong. But no team that wants to be a long-term contender can rest on its laurels and just be happy with its current roster players. Benning has to be keeping the prospect cupboard full for long-term success, and at this point in time, centre is the position where our future prospect roster (and no Kanukfanatic, not our current team roster) is the leanest. Most of us are much more interested in what happens during Petey, Bo and Gaud's tenures here than we are in what the teams depth might be like a decade down the road. If Madden or Focht make the team, it's likely to be that long before center depth becomes an issue. Of course JB will continue working to keep the pipeline full, but center is not a position that needs any special attention at this point. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Madden has the drive and skill to be as good as Gaudette and Gaudette has the drive and skill to be as good as Horvat...so I don't think we need to worry about Madden...his only issue might be trying to make the Canucks next year...even if we trade Sutter he would have to outplay AG because Green won't play him at 4C, I hope Madden is alright with a year in Utica or playing the wing.... His dad John set a lot of records at Michigan State but went undrafted in 1993. After finishing his 4 years and Michigan State, he had to wait all the way until 1999 to make his NHL debut. This included two years in the AHL. I'm sure that Tyler Madden will be okay with going to play in the AHL first, and he'll probably need two full years there. We're seeing now so many deficiencies in Gaudette's game (defense and faceoffs), so Madden should be afforded a lot of time to get acclimated to playing professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Most of us are much more interested in what happens during Petey, Bo and Gaud's tenures here than we are in what the teams depth might be like a decade down the road. If Madden or Focht make the team, it's likely to be that long before center depth becomes an issue. Of course JB will continue working to keep the pipeline full, but center is not a position that needs any special attention at this point. That's great to hear that you're happy with the centres on the team now -- who isn't? All I'm sayin' is that our prospect depth at centre is lower than at wing and D, so yes, Benning would be wise to shore our depth up there. He went all wingers in the last draft, so here's to hoping that he leans toward centres in the next draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Most of us are much more interested in what happens during Petey, Bo and Gaud's tenures here than we are in what the teams depth might be like a decade down the road. If Madden or Focht make the team, it's likely to be that long before center depth becomes an issue. Of course JB will continue working to keep the pipeline full, but center is not a position that needs any special attention at this point. Not sure why some posters cannot understand this! Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: That's great to hear that you're happy with the centres on the team now -- who isn't? All I'm sayin' is that our prospect depth at centre is lower than at wing and D, so yes, Benning would be wise to shore our depth up there. He went all wingers in the last draft, so here's to hoping that he leans toward centres in the next draft. You seriously cannot understand that D depth is more important right now? Nothing else needs to be said then.... PS: bpa Edited November 29, 2019 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: You seriously cannot understand that D depth is more important right now? Nothing else needs to be said then.... PS: bpa I have read in a couple of Prospect rankings that there should be some dmen right where would draft in the 1st round, "IF" we don't make the playoffs In the second round.....who knows But yeah....BPA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I have read in a couple of Prospect rankings that there should be some dmen right where would draft in the 1st round, "IF" we don't make the playoffs In the second round.....who knows But yeah....BPA Ya this draft is high on top end offence, lot of strong D will land in the 10-18 range likely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: You seriously cannot understand that D depth is more important right now? Nothing else needs to be said then.... PS: bpa And you seriously can't understand how much our C prospect depth needs to be strengthened That's right....face palms x2 back at you mister!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And you seriously can't understand how much our C prospect depth needs to be strengthened That's right....face palms x2 back at you mister!! We have 3 young centers in the NHL 2 veteran centers. And a solid prospect in Madden. Seems solid for a little bit, not staying don’t take shot in the second and third round at centres but we for sure aren’t in dire need unless you think Pete horvat or Guad are getting traded 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And you seriously can't understand how much our C prospect depth needs to be strengthened That's right....face palms x2 back at you mister!! We are looking pretty solid down the middle. Adding numbers is one thing but we have one of the best young center groups in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shad0w4life Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And you seriously can't understand how much our C prospect depth needs to be strengthened That's right....face palms x2 back at you mister!! Awe hell if it's gonna be that kinda party I'm gonna put my.... Wooooooo! Wooooooo! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Depth is fleeting...if you have it you have to use it or you end up losing it from waiver's or trades for more Eriksson's....(I know we didn't trade for him, use Gubbranson if you want).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And you seriously can't understand how much our C prospect depth needs to be strengthened That's right....face palms x2 back at you mister!! focht and madden our great center prospects and we have horvat 25 petey 21 miller 27 and gaudette 23 and sutter and beagle not sure we need any centers in the next 10 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 15 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: That's great to hear that you're happy with the centres on the team now -- who isn't? All I'm sayin' is that our prospect depth at centre is lower than at wing and D, so yes, Benning would be wise to shore our depth up there. He went all wingers in the last draft, so here's to hoping that he leans toward centres in the next draft. Injuries. Free agency. Play falls off, want more money plus a million other reasons why players don't stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Rocket Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) It’s actually really weird how similar gaud’s and madden’s points-per-game numbers are at similar ages. draft year: Gaud 0.6 ppg USHL Madden 0.68 ppg USHL D+1: Gaud .73 ppg NCAA Madden 0.77 ppg NCAA D+2: Gaud 1.4 ppg NCAA Madden 1.4 ppg NCAA (so far) Edited November 29, 2019 by The_Rocket 2 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I think the only question around Madden is, will he be strong enough after this season to sign and send to Utica, or does he need another year of College hockey. He's an awesome prospect, really hope that he doesn't turn pro before he's really ready to. Anyone know what his weight was at the start of this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: I think the only question around Madden is, will he be strong enough after this season to sign and send to Utica, or does he need another year of College hockey. He's an awesome prospect, really hope that he doesn't turn pro before he's really ready to. Anyone know what his weight was at the start of this season? He's still pretty scrawny; especially for a C. Genetically speaking, he will probably fill out to be in the 5'11 @ 190lb range, just like his dad. That's not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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