theminister Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Just like how we've only beaten one playoff team? Get your facts right buddy. He's a Maple Leaf fan who continues to troll these boards masquerading as a Canuck fan. I'm not sure why since any poster here is allowed to be a T.O. or any other team's fan. I decided he isn't a Vcr fan, as his name suggests, but he's a Video Cassette Recorder fan. He prefers analog medium, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 My prediction is that CDC finds a way to make this trade about Hodgson: CODY HATERS: "Hodgson obviously refused to play if they kept Vanek. His dad is good friends with Moulson's dad and they wanted to play together or else. I also heard Winters decided that Hodgson should just play the whole game himself if they want to win." CODY LOVERS: "Buffalo obviously feels like with the greatest thing since sliced bread in Hodgson signed long term they don't need a coattail hanger on like Vanek draggin his +/- down. Good riddance so Cody can really shine all on his own and show why he will be the best player in the NHL soon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Just like how we've only beaten one playoff team? Get your facts right buddy. OK, I stated this one wrong, but the only team currently in the playoffs that we've beaten is NYI, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Anyone care to list Buff's collection of top picks(last few yrs,+ upcoming period)? Lordy, looks as if they're stockpiling prospects like Flor/Ott/Minn. Five years on, these four franchises(assuming they're all willing to spend/keep talent), MUST be contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 OK, I stated this one wrong, but the only team currently in the playoffs that we've beaten is NYI, no? I take it you didn't watch the St. Louis game either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Anyone care to list Buff's collection of top picks(last few yrs,+ upcoming period)? Lordy, looks as if they're stockpiling prospects like Flor/Ott/Minn. Five years on, these four franchises(assuming they're all willing to spend/keep talent), MUST be contenders. 2012: Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe 2013: Ristolainen, Zadorov, Compher, Bailey, Hurley, Larsson, Baptiste, Possler, Hackett Hodgson, Ennis, Foligno, Armia, Pysyk, Myers, McNabb, etc are also players 23 and under that are in the system. 2014 NHL Draft: 2 first round picks, 3 second round picks 2015 NHL Draft: 1 first round pick, 3 second round picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I... Would not have dumped Moulson... unless he's damaged goods. No guarantee that Vanek signs in NYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I take it you didn't watch the St. Louis game either? STL isn't currently in the top 8.............wow............how many times do I need to explain this. They might be by year end, but they're not right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 OK, I stated this one wrong, but the only team currently in the playoffs that we've beaten is NYI, no? Can you get anything right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Can you get anything right ? So what's wrong with that statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Lombardi 18 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 NYI is probably banking on Vanek to stay in NYI because of Grabner - another Austrian. Risky move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 STL isn't currently in the top 8.............wow............how many times do I need to explain this. They might be by year end, but they're not right now. 14 pts in only 9 games. They'll be in the top 5 by this time next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Mike Gillis needs to start talking to the Isles, if they are willing to give up this much for trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Buffalo is building a VERY VERY nice group of prospects and picks. If they don't think they'll be able to re-sign Matt they'll move him on trade deadline for another pick (possibly another first) or a nice prospect to a quality team looking to make a playoff run. Potentially two 1st's and a 2nd round pick for Vanek who was VERY unlikely to re-sign at seasons end. And the Sabres are NOT developing any of them properly. Something can be said for getting a few first overalls. We see Edmonton struggling but sooner or later they will get it sorted out. Buffalo has a raft of 6th to 14th overall picks in various stages of their motley development. You need a sound structure to develop players. Sabres have decided to basically trade anyone worth anything for 2nd rounders and 10th to 20th first rounders leaving nobody to develop what talent they have. I say they are going to get burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 STL isn't currently in the top 8.............wow............how many times do I need to explain this. They might be by year end, but they're not right now. only team in the west to not have games played in double digits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 They're both UFAs at the end of the year and the rumors state Vanek is going to sign in Minny next year...? From the outside looking in it appears Snow gave up a 1st and 2nd for pretty much a lateral move... This ^ and to the Snowman this > . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Vanek has far more innate talent for the net than Moulson. My guess is with him next to Tavares they hope to create a top scoring line in the NHL that can carry their team deep in the playoffs. Plus 1st and 2nd seems like a high overpayment, but Snow has done a good job patiently developing his team perhaps he sees something in his team and Vanek that we don't. I don't say "it'll be interesting to see" very often but in this case I will say it and see how the Isles turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Soooooo...Garth Snow. 1st in 2015 and Tavares for Schroeder, Booth, and Jensen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 The NYI does have a legit chance in making the playoffs this year. Their younger players do need playoff experience to develop. While the price is high for Vanek, the organization have nowhere to go but up, at least in the next 5 years. Them moving closer to the core of NY will be a huge selling point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 NYI is probably banking on Vanek to stay in NYI because of Grabner - another Austrian. Risky move. What?!? That's a ridiculous statement if you took a moment to think about it. Vanek isn't making a multi-million dollar career decision based off of the nationality of one of his teammates and the Isles wouldn't be expecting him to. They are going to convince him that he will have a great chance to win, live in a great city, and be extremely well compensated to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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