shiznak Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I think the issue with Perlini is the inconsistency. He is loaded with talent but last year his totals were non existent . If there is one top prospect who is a complete question mark its Perlini in my opinion. He could end up an all star or in the ECHL. You know, despite all the negative reports on how Perlini had a bad playoff (offensively), that he's inconsistent, plays a perimeter game, and doesn't like going to the tough areas. He's still ranked in the top 10 in every expert's drafting list. So, clearly there's something special scouts sees in him, that all these doubters don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 You know, despite all the negative reports on how Perlini had a bad playoff (offensively), that he's inconsistent, plays a perimeter game, and doesn't like going to the tough areas. He's still ranked in the top 10 in every expert's drafting list. So, clearly there's something special scouts sees in him, that all these doubters don't. Careful. Logic is frowned upon. Replaced by selective statements and arguments over who's cherry picking who's stats. (Basically, my prospects can beat your prospects) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I think it would be wise to draft Thatcher Demko or any other goalie in this draft with our second or third pick. Lack is 26 and our 3 other goalies are 24, so by the time Demko or another goalie is entering the AHL those guys will be entering there prime.Or we can just sign them as late bloomer free agents, like we did Lack. There are more pressing needs, such as LHD and RHF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 LHD? Our NHL ready crew at least runs 4 deep; Hammer, Garrison, Edler, Stanton. At RHD we have just Bieksa (contract up in 2 years by memory), Tanev and prospect Corrado. Then our next 3 or so closest to ready (?) prospects all stride on the left side; Anderson, Sauve, Hutton, Tommerness and going deep McNally... The next RHD is very deep on the depth charts, years and many questions away; Subban. Drafting defense should most certainly be a priority as that is not a crew which will likely prop up the team someday. Especially so on the right side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynideSnipe Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I really hope Dal Colle falls to us. I honestly haven't looked into Leon that much, will probably do that soon. Nylander looks like a very good player. His play-style is similar to Patrick Kane. Wonderful hands, finesse skater, and his shot isn't to shabby either. I'm just not a big fan of how Ritchie and Virtanen play. I don't really want a Rick Nash/Bobby Ryan kind of player on this team. I want a big time sniper, an extremely dynamic player that is extremely skillful, and i just don't think Ritchie and Virtanen bring that. Although, Virtanen has a good shot. So, if Dal Colle falls to us, I take him without hesitating. If not, the BPA for the Canucks needs is Virtanen.. so I would take him then. _______________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Tonight I listened to Jeff Paterson interviewing Ross McLean (ISS scout for Western Canada)...Paterson asked McLean if he could give the listeners a quick report on players the Canucks might be picking 6th...So Paterson volunteers Perlini and Fabbri...Go figure..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Apologies if this has already been posted but some good info on Leon here. He seems quite a dynamic player, and his through the legs pass in the video was outstanding awareness. http://www.mynhldraft.com/2014/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Leon-Draisaitl I must admit Dal Colle is the guy I would want. He seem to have great vision, great positioning sense and above all he is a sniper par excellence. He also plays with and has a great chemistry with Cassels. http://www.mynhldraft.com/2014/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Michael-DalColle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I just hope one of Dal Colle and Draisaitl drop to us. Those are the guys I really want in the first round other than Ekblad, Reinhart and Bennett. So basically any of the top 5 ranked players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I just hope one of Dal Colle and Draisaitl drop to us. Those are the guys I really want in the first round other than Ekblad, Reinhart and Bennett. So basically any of the top 5 ranked players. According to the latest list (see OP's update) Draisailti has come in at 6th, so we may yet be able to acquire him if that's who we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I said on another thread that I would really like to see the Canucks pick up Sanhiem with their 2nd round pick but this new ranking doesn't look like that will be possible more than likely he will be gone by pick 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 ISS actually has Fabbri ahead of Ehler in their final ranking. However, ISS has a better track record. No one cares about, where they go in the draft. It's all about, who will be better. That's why ISS is on everything. That's why, your point is meaningless. ISS isn't known for having an excellent track record Schefiele not in the top 15 in '11. Galchenyuk at #14 in 12' Bogosian #2 & Filatov #3 in 2008. Zac Dalpe ahead of John Carlson & Erik Karlsson, exc. Mayorov, Gillies, Backlund, & Espositio ahead of Couture. Brandon Sutter at #30. Exc. They have an opinion, but I don't hold them on a higher platform than other sources. What is everyone's current thought on Julius Honka? During the year I heard early 2knd round, then as high as 10 or 11? Summary of opinion by memory was 17. Worth us trading to get a pick in this range? Mid 1st Round, he was underwhelming in the WJ's for me, but I really like him. I don't think we will will get him unless we end up with another pick around the 15+ range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzaburger Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 CS North American Skaters (TOP 15): 1 BENNETT, SAMUEL KINGSTON OHL C 6' 0.25" 178 2 EKBLAD, AARON BARRIE OHL D 6' 3.5" 216 3 REINHART, SAM KOOTENAY WHL C 6' 0.75" 185 4 DRAISAITL, LEON PRINCE ALBERT WHL C 6' 1.5" 204 5 DAL COLLE, MICHAEL OSHAWA OHL LW6' 1.5" 182 6 VIRTANEN, JAKE CALGARY WHL RW 6' 0.75" 208 7 RITCHIE, NICHOLAS PETERBOROUGH OHL LW 6' 2.25" 226 8 PERLINI, BRENDAN NIAGARA OHL LW 6' 2.75" 205 9 FLEURY, HAYDN RED DEER WHL D 6' 2.5" 203 10 MCCANN, JARED SAULT STE. MARIE OHL C 6' 0.25" 179 11 HONKA, JULIUS SWIFT CURRENT WHL D 5' 10.75" 180 12 TUCH, ALEX USA U-18 USHL RW 6' 3.5" 213 13 EHLERS, NIKOLAJ HALIFAX QMJHL LW 5' 11.0" 162 14 DEANGELO, ANTHONY SARNIA OHL D 5' 10.5" 175 15 SCHERBAK, NIKITA SASKATOON WHL RW 6' 1.0" 17 CS Europe Skaters (TOP 15): 1 KAPANEN, KASPERI KALPA FINLAND RW 6' 0.0" 180 2 NYLANDER, WILLIAM MODO SWEDEN C/RW 5' 11.0" 169 3 FIALA, KEVIN HV 71 SWEDEN LW 5' 10.0" 180 4 VRANA, JAKUB LINKOPING SWEDEN LW/RW 5' 11.0" 185 5 PASTRNAK, DAVID SODERTALJE SWEDEN-2 RW 6' 0.0" 167 6 KEMPE, ADRIAN MODO SWEDEN LW 6' 1.5" 187 7 PETTERSSON, MARCUS SKELLEFTEA JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 6' 4.0" 167 8 KASE, ONDREJ CHOMUTOV CZREP RW 6' 0.0" 165 9 AHO, SEBASTIAN SKELLEFTEA SWEDEN D 5' 9.25" 165 10 MASIN, DOMINIK SLAVIA JR. CZREP-JR. D 6' 2.0" 189 11 KARLSSON, ANTON FROLUNDA JR. SWEDEN-JR. RW 6' 1.25" 187 12 JOHANSSON, EMIL HV 71 JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 5' 11.75" 194 13 KAMENEV, VLADISLAV MAGNITOGORSK 2 RUSSIA-JR. LW 6' 2.0" 203 14 LAMMIKKO, JUHO ASSAT JR. FINLAND-JR. RW 6' 2.5" 189 15 OLLAS MATTSSON, ADAM DJURGARDEN JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 6' 4.0" 209 2014 Final Pre-Draft Rankings (ISS) updated June 3rd/2014 http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/ 1. Reinhart, Sam C 2. Ekblad, Aaron D 3. Dal Colle, Michael C 4 . Bennett, Sam C 5. Nylander, William RW 6. Draisaitl, Leon C 7. Virtanen, Jake RW 8. Fabbri, Robby C 9. Perlini, Brendan LW 10. Ritchie, Nicholas LW 11. Ehlers, Nikolaj LW 12. Fleury, Haydn LD 13. Kapanen, Kasperi RW 14. Tuch, Alex RW 15. Larkin, Dylan C 16. Milano, Sonny LW 17. McCann, Jared C 18. Ho-Sang, Joshua RW 19. Barbashev, Ivan C 20. Fiala, Kevin RW 21. Vrana, Jakub RW 22. Kempe, Adrian LW 23. McKeown, Roland D 24. Schmaltz, Nick RW 25. MacInnis, Ryan C 26. Bleackley, Conner C/RW 27. Scherbak, Nikita RW 28. Goldobin, Nikolay RW 29. Kamenev, Vladislav C 30. Sanheim, Travis D For all you Ehlers supports yes he may be a good young player but he has slipped in the ISS rankings to 11th. I just don’t see a reason to pick him at 6th when the chances are a lot more of someone in the top 5 dropping to us. Really looking at the ISS final rankings, the top 6 players stand out more than the rest and we should be glad to have anyone of them. I welcome our sixth overall pick with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeddingCrashers Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Looks like a good list! I was hoping to snag vladislav kamenev with our third but judging by iss that looks highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Cant go wrong with draisaitl or dal colle. Although Nylanders combine results were impressive there is something about him that screams bust. If Virtanen is around at 10 I would do that deal with anaheim. Draisatl/Dal Colle+ Virtanen>Reinhart. I would love to trade up but I dont think we have the assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocnucksfan Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 These guys aren't going to be NHL ready based on what? great analysis you've made there. this whole "only the 1st overall" is NHL ready presumption on CDC is ridiculous. anyone in the top 5 could break in to the NHL and have great success, in a deeper draft i'd say the top 10. we have a great chance of getting a top 5 player falling to us and seeing him in our line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 CS North American Skaters (TOP 15): 1 BENNETT, SAMUEL KINGSTON OHL C 6' 0.25" 178 2 EKBLAD, AARON BARRIE OHL D 6' 3.5" 216 3 REINHART, SAM KOOTENAY WHL C 6' 0.75" 185 4 DRAISAITL, LEON PRINCE ALBERT WHL C 6' 1.5" 204 5 DAL COLLE, MICHAEL OSHAWA OHL LW6' 1.5" 182 6 VIRTANEN, JAKE CALGARY WHL RW 6' 0.75" 208 7 RITCHIE, NICHOLAS PETERBOROUGH OHL LW 6' 2.25" 226 8 PERLINI, BRENDAN NIAGARA OHL LW 6' 2.75" 205 9 FLEURY, HAYDN RED DEER WHL D 6' 2.5" 203 10 MCCANN, JARED SAULT STE. MARIE OHL C 6' 0.25" 179 11 HONKA, JULIUS SWIFT CURRENT WHL D 5' 10.75" 180 12 TUCH, ALEX USA U-18 USHL RW 6' 3.5" 213 13 EHLERS, NIKOLAJ HALIFAX QMJHL LW 5' 11.0" 162 14 DEANGELO, ANTHONY SARNIA OHL D 5' 10.5" 175 15 SCHERBAK, NIKITA SASKATOON WHL RW 6' 1.0" 17 CS Europe Skaters (TOP 15): 1 KAPANEN, KASPERI KALPA FINLAND RW 6' 0.0" 180 2 NYLANDER, WILLIAM MODO SWEDEN C/RW 5' 11.0" 169 3 FIALA, KEVIN HV 71 SWEDEN LW 5' 10.0" 180 4 VRANA, JAKUB LINKOPING SWEDEN LW/RW 5' 11.0" 185 5 PASTRNAK, DAVID SODERTALJE SWEDEN-2 RW 6' 0.0" 167 6 KEMPE, ADRIAN MODO SWEDEN LW 6' 1.5" 187 7 PETTERSSON, MARCUS SKELLEFTEA JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 6' 4.0" 167 8 KASE, ONDREJ CHOMUTOV CZREP RW 6' 0.0" 165 9 AHO, SEBASTIAN SKELLEFTEA SWEDEN D 5' 9.25" 165 10 MASIN, DOMINIK SLAVIA JR. CZREP-JR. D 6' 2.0" 189 11 KARLSSON, ANTON FROLUNDA JR. SWEDEN-JR. RW 6' 1.25" 187 12 JOHANSSON, EMIL HV 71 JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 5' 11.75" 194 13 KAMENEV, VLADISLAV MAGNITOGORSK 2 RUSSIA-JR. LW 6' 2.0" 203 14 LAMMIKKO, JUHO ASSAT JR. FINLAND-JR. RW 6' 2.5" 189 15 OLLAS MATTSSON, ADAM DJURGARDEN JR. SWEDEN-JR. D 6' 4.0" 209 2014 Final Pre-Draft Rankings (ISS) updated June 3rd/2014 http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/ 1. Reinhart, Sam C 2. Ekblad, Aaron D 3. Dal Colle, Michael C 4 . Bennett, Sam C 5. Nylander, William RW 6. Draisaitl, Leon C 7. Virtanen, Jake RW 8. Fabbri, Robby C 9. Perlini, Brendan LW 10. Ritchie, Nicholas LW 11. Ehlers, Nikolaj LW 12. Fleury, Haydn LD 13. Kapanen, Kasperi RW 14. Tuch, Alex RW 15. Larkin, Dylan C 16. Milano, Sonny LW 17. McCann, Jared C 18. Ho-Sang, Joshua RW 19. Barbashev, Ivan C 20. Fiala, Kevin RW 21. Vrana, Jakub RW 22. Kempe, Adrian LW 23. McKeown, Roland D 24. Schmaltz, Nick RW 25. MacInnis, Ryan C 26. Bleackley, Conner C/RW 27. Scherbak, Nikita RW 28. Goldobin, Nikolay RW 29. Kamenev, Vladislav C 30. Sanheim, Travis D For all you Ehlers supports yes he may be a good young player but he has slipped in the ISS rankings to 11th. I just don’t see a reason to pick him at 6th when the chances are a lot more of someone in the top 5 dropping to us. Really looking at the ISS final rankings, the top 6 players stand out more than the rest and we should be glad to have anyone of them. I welcome our sixth overall pick with open arms. No. He was ranked by ISS 11th May 15th as well. Your facts are incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Cant go wrong with draisaitl or dal colle. Although Nylanders combine results were impressive there is something about him that screams bust. If Virtanen is around at 10 I would do that deal with anaheim. Draisatl/Dal Colle+ Virtanen>Reinhart. I would love to trade up but I dont think we have the assets I agree. Wouldn't mind us going after NYI's 5th either. One of Tanev or Hansen + for their 5th. I might be inclined to take Fleury with the 10th in that case though. Take two of Draisaitl / MDC / Nylander / Virtanen (depending on who is left) with the 5th and 6th and Fleury with the 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Everyone keeps saying that this is a weak draft year. Not sure I agree. I think the reason everyone is thinking that is because there no clear cut #1 pick this year. There's about 5 different guys that "could" be chosen #1. You don't really know how a draft class will really turn out for about 3 - 4 years, but I see a lot of depth in the first couple of rounds. Lots of guys who have the skills to become really good NHL players. I just don't see the next Wayne Gretzky in there, but that's alright! That type of player doesn't come around all that often! Doesn't mean this won't be a good draft class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzaburger Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 No. He was ranked by ISS 11th May 15th as well. Your facts are incorrect. Sorry all mighty troll. EHLERS IS STILL 11TH!! Not sixth. So you can take your daily trolling in threads and starting random arguments and get out of the basement and get a job and a life. You don't need to go around looking for every small mistake and call them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Gino Brash Ryp Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Craig Buttons latest rankings (June 3) 1. Sam Reinhart 2. Aaron Ekblad 3. Sam Bennett 4. Leon Draisaitl 5. Michael Dal Colle 6. Nikolaj Ehlers 7. Haydn Fleury 8. Travis Sanheim 9. William Nylander 10. Adrian Kempe 11. Brendan Perlini 12. Vlad Kamenev 13. Kasperi Kapanen 14. Ivan Barbashev 15. Anthony DeAngelo 16. Nick Ritchie 17. Brayden Point 18. Julius Honka 19. Jared McCann 20. Sonny Milano 21. Dylan Larkin 22. Kevin Fiala 23. Jakub Vrana 24. Nick Schmaltz 25. David Pastrnak 26. Alex Nedeljkovic 27. Josh Jacobs 28. Robert Fabbri 29. Marcus Pettersson 30. Connor Bleackley 31. Dominik Masin 32. Alex Tuch 33. Brendan Lemieux 34. Nikolay Goldobin 35. Nikita Sherbak 36. Brett Pollock 37. Ryan MacInnis 38. Mason McDonald 39. Josh Ho Sang 40. Anton Karlsson 41. Michael Bunting 42. Adam O. Mattsson 43. Jake Virtanen 44. John Quenneville 45. Jayce Hawryluk 46. Justin Kirkland 47. Vaclav Karabacek 48. Eric Cornel 49. Ondrej Kase 50. Ryan Collins 51. Roland McKeown 52. Brycen Martin 53. Thatcher Demko 54. Spencer Watson 55. Chase De Leo 56. Vladislav Gavrikov 57. Michael Prapavessis 58. Alex Peters 59. Jake Walman 60. Ryan Mantha 61. Emil Johansson 62. Julius Bergman 63. Ville Husso 64. Christian Dvorak 65. Olivier Leblanc 66. Reid Gardiner 67. Alexandre Goulet 68. Reid Duke 69. Nick Magyar 70. Vladimir Tkachyov 71. Miles Gendron 72. Maxim Letunov 73. Gustav Forsling 74. Kyle Jenkins 75. Brandon Hickey 76. Oskar Lindblom 77. Juho Lammikko 78. William Laggeson 79. Julien Nantel 80. Daniel M. Bagenda 81. Jack Dougherty 82. Rourke Chartier 83. Jaedon Descheneau 84. Jack Ramsey 85.Tyson Baillie 86. Daniel Audette 87. Nicolas Aube-Kubel 88. Hunter Smith 89. Connor Chatham 90. Lucas Wallmark 91. Pavel Jenys 92. Warren Foegele 93. Austin Poganski 94. Ryan Donato 95. Richard Nejezchleb 96. Axel Holmstrom 97. Kelly Summers 98. Dominic Turgeon 99. Nikita Lyamkin 100. Ryan Foss Kinda hope he's dead on with this one lol. 1st round Ehlers/Fleury/Nylander/Ritchie 2nd round Virtanen/Ho Sang/Demko 3rd round Dougherty/Foegele/Hunter Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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