HowYaDrouin Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Well.... Philly got fleeced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Loooool. Awful deal. Jackets just robbed Philly. Philly fans also love Hartnell and he's a big time fan fav. Flyers lose this deal in every perspective...what is going on there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 What a way to start Ron Hextall. Maybe PHI wins this if CBJ retains cap? I highly doubt it but if this is a 1 for 1 Philly just got Rekt. This has to be it, otherwise wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowYaDrouin Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's just such a backwards/sideways trade for philly.. i don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharnhayre Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It looks like a bad trade so far... but lets see what Phillys roster looks like come October. I'm sure this could all be setting up for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Ok so they added a 2015 4th as a sweetener? Still odd to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It would appear at first glance as though Hextall messed the bed on this one. But Hartnell has been on the wane for over 2 seasons. This is the same forum that wants Burrows traded after 1 off season but claims Philli lost this deal in a big way. All i can see with Umberger coming back is a secondary move involving Lecavelier. I would also like to point out that no Umberger takes care of any of the reasons Kesler would not want to go to Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 let's try to trade for couturier.....we might just get him...lol awww...i still rmb hartnell playing with the twins in the all star game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Not as bad as a lot of people are making this out as. Hartnell's age and injuries are catching up to him and his contract is worse. That said, he's definitely the better player so CBJ certainly could be bigger winners on this gamble if he can stay healthy. If. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2inthecup Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 people my look at this deal and say its terrible but here the facts: 1. scott hartnell had a bad and injury proned season 2. hes 33 years old and plays a power forward type of game that can only be sustained for so long 3. his contracts is around 4.75 for another 5 years its pretty easy to see that hextall thought hartnell was a sinking ship and he wanted out of that contract. umbergers contract is 4.6 for 3 years. Please explain how 52 points in 78 games is a bad and injury prone season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Stammer- Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 haha Gillis wouldn't even make that trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Ok so they added a 2015 4th as a sweetener? Still odd to me This trade was probably made via drunk texting and Hex thought it was the 4th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkin Cookies Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wow i am so pissed off... Hartnell was one of my favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wow i am so pissed off... Hartnell was one of my favourites. i ll love im in the jackets uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Dang Hartnell down song no longer works " Get him on a line with Claude Giroux" DOESN"T WORK ANYMORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It would appear at first glance as though Hextall messed the bed on this one. But Hartnell has been on the wane for over 2 seasons. This is the same forum that wants Burrows traded after 1 off season but claims Philli lost this deal in a big way. All i can see with Umberger coming back is a secondary move involving Lecavelier. I would also like to point out that no Umberger takes care of any of the reasons Kesler would not want to go to Columbus. Burrows season wasn't even close to Hartnell's. This is a bad trade. However I agree another deal is likely in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I hope Bening doesn't mess up the Kesler deal up this bad. Also maybe its possible Kesler goes to CLB now since Hamburger is gone? Kesler for Wennburg/Jenner, 1st, roster player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 You guys think Van. proposals are bad? Someone (Flyers fan) said this on Facebook Look at the big picture guys. We got umberger because we are trading Schenn and Lecavalier for Weber. LOL I actually really like the Flyers and Hartnell was on of the few I hated. Glad he's gone but goddamn get some value next time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Kesler to CBJ? Wonder how Philly fans feel? Hartnell was a fan favorite Except Kesler hasn't indicated Columbus is a team he'll go to. They aren't moving Umberger to make space for anyone either, Umberger requested a deal. Very surprised though that's all Philly got for Hartnell. Maybe if it was a 2nd round pick or better, but Hartnell's still producing more than Umberger. And Umberger can play multiple forward roles but Philly has plenty of centers so it makes little sense from that front as well. The only thing that makes some sense is that Umberger has played in Philly before so they know what they're getting. people my look at this deal and say its terrible but here the facts: 1. scott hartnell had a bad and injury proned season 2. hes 33 years old and plays a power forward type of game that can only be sustained for so long 3. his contracts is around 4.75 for another 5 years its pretty easy to see that hextall thought hartnell was a sinking ship and he wanted out of that contract. umbergers contract is 4.6 for 3 years. That is the only thing I could see. It was a long deal and pretty suspect when they signed Hartnell to it, but Umberger is 32 and has 3 more years on his contract at a very similar cap hit. They could have gotten a better deal than this for Hartnell I'd have to think. As others have said, Hartnell putting up 50+ points isn't that bad a season. Don't forget the season Umberger's coming off of, playing through injury and dealing with even some healthy scratches yet only putting up 30+ points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Like I guess Philly might have done it as a cap dump but even then if they wanna sign someone in FA, they'll sign at a high price and won't bring what Hartnell to the table. Don't get it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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