Nave Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Bartkowski is a great skater, but it's like as soon as he hits the redline he freezes and doesn't know what to do with the puck. If he could figure that out he could turn into a hell of a player. A lot of the time he jus kills time and then chips it into the corner. That's not necessarily a bad puck play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 decades and no cup Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Come off it man. He's right. We have some of the most brittle hockey fans in the NHL. Bandwagon jumping is an Olympic sport in BC. A defeat on Saturday and we will be back to doom and gloom. Self entitlement is a religion on CDC. Yeah, but what if they win? :frantic: :frantic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Come off it man. He's right. We have some of the most brittle hockey fans in the NHL. Bandwagon jumping is an Olympic sport in BC. A defeat on Saturday and we will be back to doom and gloom. Self entitlement is a religion on CDC. damn straight .. and if Im honest with myself , I have to admit that making the playoffs will surprise me more than missing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Is speed mattered then every team would be full of Mason Raymond's yet not one team is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Is speed mattered then every team would be full of Mason Raymond's yet not one team is it does matter but obviously there are many other intangibles .. without speed in this league though , those other intangibles dont mean much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Is speed mattered then every team would be full of Mason Raymond's yet not one team is Speed is and always will be one of the keys to a championship hockey team. But it has to be combined with: a) a willingness to the go to the net, something which a guy like Raymond would not do b ) complementing that speed with quick passing All the great dynasty NHL teams had speed to burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Speed is and always will be one of the keys to a championship hockey team. But it has to be combined with: a) a willingness to the go to the net, something which a guy like Raymond would not do b ) complementing that speed with quick passing All the great dynasty NHL teams had speed to burn. What I mean is just saying we are faster doesn't mean we are better. Skill is more important than speed. Obviously you want both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic 8-Ball Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I swear to God, the people who whine about CDC are worse than the CDC whiners. It's not like all the members of this community are always present. When something bad happens, the people who are on that train jump on and start whining. When something good happens, the optimists jump on and express their happiness. It's not that hard to figure out. Get over it. Overall, I agree with the article. It certainly won't be like this all year, and I still think the Canucks miss the playoffs this spring, but it's still exciting because of what it represents. The bedrock is being changed, so in the long terms, this is a great step. And hey, if they can make something of it right now, well, let's see where that goes. All part of the journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Am I the only one worried about all the giveaways, neutral zone turnovers and lack of hitting? Guess I'm jaded about decent play in regular season... Or spoiled After game 1 of an 82 game season? Yes, you're the only one. Can we keep Vrbata? He's actually a really good player and he's fast too. He hasn't convinced me he can help this team come playoff time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirkcraig Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Bartkowski and Hutton have changed the way our defence plays, finally some decent up ice rushes. I had forgotten that D man were allowed to skate out the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Teams with speed are a pleasure to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 In what planet is Bieksa faster than Barthowski Bonino faster than Sutter Matthias faster than McCaan the only one with good speed was richardson and he was hobbled for the second half of the season we added baerstchi and hutton as well there is a clear difference in speed and to argue against that and say the difference is passing is incorrect I would say Bieksa AND Matthias are actually quicker over the ice when they decide to go. So it's a matter of opinion unless you can come up with some stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyforhockey Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 we are faster asa team And fastest way to play the game is passing.........our quick passes and quick acceleration was key in nuetruizing the Calgary fore check. great support from the forwards.....seemed there was always a couple of option in passing. And it helps that our newest dman 27 can skate and is cool as a cucumber in passing(and very good at it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Like Bennington said " we want a team that can play any style". The added speed was crucial after last year, but I wonder if we're still missing an important ingredient which is that heaviness and size somewhere in the lineup. Would Lucic help with that? Absolutely. But I don't think it'll be enough. It's the first game, but Lucic looked like la looked - frustrated and entitled resting on the laurels of their reputation as a good team - it's very possible la and Lucic have another off year, although my preference would be for him to have an awesone year and then sign with us even if it's for like 7 mill as long as he earns it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I would say Bieksa AND Matthias are actually quicker over the ice when they decide to go. So it's a matter of opinion unless you can come up with some stats.My god Mathias and Bieksa were slow out there and it was painful how they would pinch and get totally pyloned (just made that word up). Especially Mathias the guy was the antithesis of quick. Dude even thought in slow motion, celebrated in slow motion, took a piss in slow motion etc... You get the picture. Those guys skated choppy as hell and their first steps last year seemed below average. At least Bieksa was tough, but Mathias for all if his god given size rarely played physical or drove the net. When he did good things happened but the guy was too slow to do it consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 My god Mathias and Bieksa were slow out there and it was painful how they would pinch and get totally pyloned (just made that word up). Especially Mathias the guy was the antithesis of quick. Dude even thought in slow motion, celebrated in slow motion, took a piss in slow motion etc... You get the picture. Those guys skated choppy as hell and their first steps last year seemed below average. At least Bieksa was tough, but Mathias for all if his god given size rarely played physical or drove the net. When he did good things happened but the guy was too slow to do it consistently Yup on all accounts. That's why I dislike the Guance comparison to Mathias. Guance has a way better IQ, and plays a far more physical game. I don't think Guance is quick, but he's definitely quicker that Mathias too. I'll be shocked if Mathias gets ten goals in TO this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 It's the first game, but Lucic looked like la looked - frustrated and entitled resting on the laurels of their reputation as a good team - it's very possible la and Lucic have another off year, although my preference would be for him to have an awesone year and then sign with us even if it's for like 7 mill as long as he earns it So if Lucic has yet another subpar season, this time with a whole new team, you'd still want to sign him... AND do so for $7mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 This Guance-dude a recent FA signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 This Guance-dude a recent FA signing? Yes, surprised you missed the presser. It was everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOOMUCHINTERNET Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Canucks Curse, on 10 Oct 2015 - 10:50 AM, said: It's the first game, but Lucic looked like la looked - frustrated and entitled resting on the laurels of their reputation as a good team - it's very possible la and Lucic have another off year, although my preference would be for him to have an awesone year and then sign with us even if it's for like 7 mill as long as he earns it So if Lucic has yet another subpar season, this time with a whole new team, you'd still want to sign him... AND do so for $7mil? I'm hoping you were simply too caught up in the moment to realize what "Canucks Curse" said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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