clutesi Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 On 2016-01-18 at 0:29 AM, Junkyard Dog said: Speed is not as big of a factor as you're suggesting. You're stating it like everyone is going to be buzzing around at 40 km an hour. The league is already fast and players keep flourishing in spite of that. I also see players like Iginla and Doan still being effective at their age. Lucic can put up points. He has throughout his career which includes the playoffs. He has been very healthy despite being one of the most physical players in the league. I only want him here at a hometown discount which is unlikely in my eyes. I am just saying do not downplay him. He is the type of player that helps you win cups. LA got him for that reason and are trying to sign him for that reason. Doan and Iginla have puck skills and high end hockey IQ. That's why they can still play. Lucic has neither. And he's WAY overpriced. Get a young tough guy with a decent skill set ready to earn his job and you'll have Lucic at half the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 On 2016-01-18 at 0:14 PM, Hoosierdaddy said: Do you think there's actually a market for Miller? Have you watched his last two games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, clutesi said: Have you watched his last two games? Have you looked at when I posted that message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Don't want Lucic or Brown. Both dirty, cheapshot scumbags on their way down who would poison the new team which is being built. Much better to look for younger players who are developing... and we don't need forwards, we need back end. BIG TOUGH D-MEN WHO CAN SCATE ARE WHAT WE NEED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 On 1/16/2016 at 11:41 AM, WHL rocks said: I said this a few days ago, They're keeping Lucic, Could package Brown in a cap dump. you make it sound like it's their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 hours ago, cuporbust said: you make it sound like it's their choice. What's their choice, trading away on of their players and signing another one of their own players? Yes of course, it's their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like Lucic really loves LA So Ladd anyone!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Looks like Lucic really loves LA So Ladd anyone!? Let me know when they find the cap space to keep Lucic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Pears said: Let me know when they find the cap space to keep Lucic. Knowing the Kings and Lombardi, they'll probably find a way to cheat the system. With the Kopitar extension, I think the Kings will have 10 million to spend on 7 roster spots. As long as no one takes Dustin Brown's dumb contract, it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 37 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Knowing the Kings and Lombardi, they'll probably find a way to cheat the system. With the Kopitar extension, I think the Kings will have 10 million to spend on 7 roster spots. As long as no one takes Dustin Brown's dumb contract, it's all good. Out of those 7 spots a minimum of 3 defense and a goalie is mandatory. The backup, Schenn, McNabb, McBain, and Ehrhoff expiring on the back end. And both their AHL goalies are expiring too so they can't even just call one up. Signing 3 defense and a goalie is gonna eat up an absolute minimum of 5 or 6 million and that's if you sign AHL guys. If they don't dump a big contract, no way Lucic stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Jiggs50 said: Knowing the Kings and Lombardi, they'll probably find a way to cheat the system. With the Kopitar extension, I think the Kings will have 10 million to spend on 7 roster spots. As long as no one takes Dustin Brown's dumb contract, it's all good. Good point there. After they got away with the Richards drama I wouldn't be surprised if they "found" a way. But yea like I said, looking more and more likely the big man comes home this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14619198/nhl-kings-milan-lucic-loving-life-los-angeles "I hope it's here, just because of how great everything has gone and good the transition has gone," said Lucic, who is fourth in team scoring with 12 goals and 17 assists for 29 points through 45 games. "I truly, truly deep down in my heart hope that I do get to remain a King after this season. Obviously, there haven't really been any [contract] talks yet. They've had a lot on their plate with the [Anze] Kopitar contract, but we'll just wait and see what it's going to look like moving forward. I would love nothing more than to remain a King." IDK but this seems pretty convincing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 We are almost zen like entering the twilight zone with the team now having the ability to shed CAP while already building for the future with real good promising young players.The allows for a real hard look at the UFA upcoming market and meassure the potential to plug n play perhaps as many as 3 good UFA's as well as accumulating our fair share of draft picks at this Junes table . This to me would be an ultimate coup to pull off the rebuild retool in three short seasons all the while flirting with a playoff spot in the anemic sweathog Pacific soon to be the crown jewel of the west again.It would be like I died an went to heaven an have not seen this before. PS wake me up when the party starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 hours ago, HenButton said: http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14619198/nhl-kings-milan-lucic-loving-life-los-angeles "I hope it's here, just because of how great everything has gone and good the transition has gone," said Lucic, who is fourth in team scoring with 12 goals and 17 assists for 29 points through 45 games. "I truly, truly deep down in my heart hope that I do get to remain a King after this season. Obviously, there haven't really been any [contract] talks yet. They've had a lot on their plate with the [Anze] Kopitar contract, but we'll just wait and see what it's going to look like moving forward. I would love nothing more than to remain a King." IDK but this seems pretty convincing to me. Fair enough. Lucic's comments pretty much state the obvious. He views coming to Vancouver as being a saviour. That statement alone smacks of a misplaced arrogance this team doesn't need. Regardless of how big and strong he is, a head that fat never gets smaller. Benning has to read that and see that Lucic is set on staying in LA. The focus now should be on setting the defence for the future. Once again I trust in Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Fair enough. Lucic's comments pretty much state the obvious. He views coming to Vancouver as being a saviour. That statement alone smacks of a misplaced arrogance this team doesn't need. Regardless of how big and strong he is, a head that fat never gets smaller. Benning has to read that and see that Lucic is set on staying in LA. The focus now should be on setting the defence for the future. Once again I trust in Benning. Well, to be fair, what else is he supposed to say? That he hates living LA and will get out of there as soon as possible? When he was a told a trade to Vancouver was close he said he almost wanted that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well if Lecavalier keeps performing (3 goals and 1 assist in 7 games playing limited minutes with LA) he might decide not to retire Being back on the horse might make that $6.5 million over the next two years seems more attractive. Boy would that screw the Kings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, Provost said: Well if Lecavalier keeps performing (3 goals and 1 assist in 7 games playing limited minutes with LA) he might decide not to retire Being back on the horse might make that $6.5 million over the next two years seems more attractive. Boy would that screw the Kings! I've been thinking about that. The thing is, with the 50% retention from Philly, Lecavalier's cap hit is only 2.25. If he manages to maintain his level of play since joining the team (not just 4 points, but, 52% FO, 5 blocks...) he's actually kind of a bargain. Where else are they going to find an effective veteran 3rd line center for such a reasonable amount? I wouldn't be surprised if - again, assuming he can maintain this play - L.A. tells him he's free to come back for another year. So really, the team that would get screwed there would be the Flyers, who assume they'll have his salary off the books at the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 43 minutes ago, Pears said: Well, to be fair, what else is he supposed to say? That he hates living LA and will get out of there as soon as possible? When he was a told a trade to Vancouver was close he said he almost wanted that to happen. He's playing to whatever crowd likes him. I get it. I don't think he's really interested in coming here to be honest. The "saviour" comment was a very thinly veiled hint to that effect. He has it good in LA where he is back with a championship caliber team after being traded away from the Bruins. And if LA wasn't able to fit him under the cap, do you think he'd automatically await Benning's offer, or do you think he'd instruct his agent to take an offer that puts him with a contending team? I don't think he's as interested as many think he is. Vancouver is a desperate city sometimes when it comes to generating news worthy material, especially from a sports perspective. He knows this from growing up in the fishbowl and probably decided to throw the local fandom a bone so they felt special. At least that's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: He's playing to whatever crowd likes him. I get it. I don't think he's really interested in coming here to be honest. The "saviour" comment was a very thinly veiled hint to that effect. He has it good in LA where he is back with a championship caliber team after being traded away from the Bruins. And if LA wasn't able to fit him under the cap, do you think he'd automatically await Benning's offer, or do you think he'd instruct his agent to take an offer that puts him with a contending team? I don't think he's as interested as many think he is. Vancouver is a desperate city sometimes when it comes to generating news worthy material, especially from a sports perspective. He knows this from growing up in the fishbowl and probably decided to throw the local fandom a bone so they felt special. At least that's how I see it. I agree with what you say but I think he is just what we need..him and Dorsett as forwards and Pedan on the D would take care of our toughness.....but I wont lose sleep either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 32 minutes ago, ShakyWalton said: I agree with what you say but I think he is just what we need..him and Dorsett as forwards and Pedan on the D would take care of our toughness.....but I wont lose sleep either way. Sure. But as per the article, it sounds like Lucic has his mind made up. And same as you, I won't lose sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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