Fred65 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Tbh I liked how much Schenn protected Hughes more, but yes Tanev helped Hughes because he was a defensive minded first kind of guy, and that's exactly what Hughes needs as a partner, basically you need to find a Willie Mitchell somewhere for Hughes, but if guys like Myers and Edler are jumping up into the rush paired up with Hughes well that's an automatic fail, but if Edler is still on this team well that's an automatic fail again C'mon Edler and Hughes play the same side .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fred65 said: C'mon Edler and Hughes play the same side .... I know, but I thought after Benn was moved, and not trusting the youth they tried Edler on RD with Hughes a few times I thought..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: I know, but I thought after Benn was moved, and not trusting the youth they tried Edler on RD with Hughes a few times I thought..... RD with still some gas left in the tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: RD with still some gas left in the tank. If he was a UFA I would do it, but because he isn't and Benning let him go for nothing, trying to trade to get a player back you let walk isn't good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: I know, but I thought after Benn was moved, and not trusting the youth they tried Edler on RD with Hughes a few times I thought..... Nope ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whorvat Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 hours ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: If he was a UFA I would do it, but because he isn't and Benning let him go for nothing, trying to trade to get a player back you let walk isn't good. Has nothing to do with trading for a player we let go for nothing. We let him go for nothing because the contract Calgary gave him was not something we were interested in doing. Simple as that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Whorvat said: Has nothing to do with trading for a player we let go for nothing. We let him go for nothing because the contract Calgary gave him was not something we were interested in doing. Simple as that Exactly this. I can’t believe people are still so bitter about losing Tanev. The contract, plus the injury history, would have been too big of a risk. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: If he was a UFA I would do it, but because he isn't and Benning let him go for nothing, trying to trade to get a player back you let walk isn't good. If you can't afford someone, it doesn't mean you're going to be able to resign them. It's a pretty simple concept don't you think? It doesn't even matter what people think about Benning or Tanev or even how we got to this point. Signings require money. In my opinion, this whole concept of "letting a player go for nothing" is effectively meaningless and 100% false when every player costs something. No matter what, you still get cap relief. Edited July 14, 2021 by The Lock 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Whorvat said: Has nothing to do with trading for a player we let go for nothing. We let him go for nothing because the contract Calgary gave him was not something we were interested in doing. Simple as that Actually it does, because if you let the guy walk the year before and then the following year you trade assets to just get him again, you're a horrible GM if you're doing that The fact that Benning didn't get anything for Tanev or especially Markstrom after committing all those years to him and turning him into #1 waste all those years to get absolutely nothing back, is actually a joke tbh. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Actually it does, because if you let the guy walk the year before and then the following year you trade assets to just get him again, you're a horrible GM if you're doing that The fact that Benning didn't get anything for Tanev or especially Markstrom after committing all those years to him and turning him into #1 waste all those years to get absolutely nothing back, is actually a joke tbh. You mean trade Marky and Tanev at the 2020 TDL, because the thought is those two guys will not be extended? Those two guys were pretty important to the team getting in the playoffs, and winning a couple series. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, The Lock said: If you can't afford someone, it doesn't mean you're going to be able to resign them. It's a pretty simple concept don't you think? It doesn't even matter what people think about Benning or Tanev or even how we got to this point. Signings require money. In my opinion, this whole concept of "letting a player go for nothing" is effectively meaningless and 100% false when every player costs something. No matter what, you still get cap relief. It's effectively meaningless if you're a contender, but if you not and your rebuilding in a way, you should be trying to stock the cupboards as much as possible and not let guys walk and get nothing, that poor management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Alflives said: You mean trade Marky and Tanev at the 2020 TDL, because the thought is those two guys will not be extended? Those two guys were pretty important to the team getting in the playoffs, and winning a couple series. Yeah what was the point really? Just to get their feet wet to then just accept failure for another 2 years... What a waste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Yeah what was the point really? Just to get their feet wet to then just accept failure for another 2 years... What a waste. Actually, yes. Experiencing playoff hockey is huge for a young core. Not many young cores have a linear development. They make the playoffs, get a taste, and then step back. But that first taste is really important. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 My frustration with this organization has been going on since 94, I'm tired of losing and I'm tired of being happy with mediocre crap, I'm tired with this organization not wanting to let go of dead weight, I'm tired of hearing that everything is going to be okay when in reality it's not, but so many continue to turn the other way thinking everything is just peachy and fine when it really it's not. It seems like when you look at defensive stats for last year, the Canucks are in the bottom 6 it seems like in every category, but what do the Canucks do... Just bring them all back, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Actually, yes. Experiencing playoff hockey is huge for a young core. Not many young cores have a linear development. They make the playoffs, get a taste, and then step back. But that first taste is really important. Yeah then they just loss for 2 years after and are miserable again, I'm sure that really helps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Actually it does, because if you let the guy walk the year before and then the following year you trade assets to just get him again, you're a horrible GM if you're doing that The fact that Benning didn't get anything for Tanev or especially Markstrom after committing all those years to him and turning him into #1 waste all those years to get absolutely nothing back, is actually a joke tbh. You really wanted JB to trade them away in the middle of a playoff push? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kenny Blankenship said: You really wanted JB to trade them away in the middle of a playoff push? Lmao Well if your game plan is not expecting to be ready for 3 more years then yeah I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Now I'm actually on board to fire Benning, at first I was willing to give him this year coming up before completely turning on him, but thanks to some posters I'm definitely on the get ride of Benning train now, he's horrible this team has gone no where under him and still aren't going anywhere, what a mess and disaster and even our young core guys are soft and weak, this teams a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Now I'm actually on board to fire Benning, at first I was willing to give him this year coming up before completely turning on him, but thanks to some posters I'm definitely on the get ride of Benning train now, he's horrible this team has gone no where under him and still aren't going anywhere, what a mess and disaster and even our young core guys are soft and weak, this teams a mess. Why would you let some posters opinions on the situation shape yours? I'd suggest basing it off of what he does this offseason. Or whatever you feel, but not on someone else's opinion. Just my opinion.....that you don't have to take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Why would you let some posters opinions on the situation shape yours? I'd suggest basing it off of what he does this offseason. Or whatever you feel, but not on someone else's opinion. Just my opinion.....that you don't have to take. Because it seems like the more I talk to them about it the more I see how bad it really is now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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