Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I know Benning made comments that suggest he wants a rugged scoring winger, but how many of them are really out there that we wouldn't have to overpay for? What we really need is secondary scoring. I think Nail Yakupov is very talented, and given the right coaching and development could turn into a "real good" player for us. His value is at an all time low right now. It was rumoured that Edmonton was shopping him at the Trade Deadline for a 2nd Round Pick, although many analysts have said they believe his actual value is around a 3rd Round Pick. Right now we are deep in the Defensive position and could stand to lose Sbisa to make room for Tryamkin/Larsen on the 3rd pairing. My Proposal: To Vancouver Nail Yakupov To Edmonton Luca Sbisa I think Edmonton would do this to shore up their defensive depth, while at the same time providing Vancouver with the secondary scoring depth we need. Our lineup could be something like... Daniel-Henrik-Eriksson Baertschi-Sutter-Hansen Yakupov-Horvat-Rodin/Virtanen Burrows-Granlund-Dorsett Etem Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Tryamkin-Larsen Pedan Miller Markstrom Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Roger Neilson's Towel said: I know Benning made comments that suggest he wants a rugged scoring winger, but how many of them are really out there that we wouldn't have to overpay for? What we really need is secondary scoring. I think Nail Yakupov is very talented, and given the right coaching and development could turn into a "real good" player for us. His value is at an all time low right now. It was rumoured that Edmonton was shopping him at the Trade Deadline for a 2nd Round Pick, although many analysts have said they believe his actual value is around a 3rd Round Pick. Right now we are deep in the Defensive position and could stand to lose Sbisa to make room for Tryamkin/Larsen on the 3rd pairing. My Proposal: To Vancouver Nail Yakupov To Edmonton Luca Sbisa I think Edmonton would do this to shore up their defensive depth, while at the same time providing Vancouver with the secondary scoring depth we need. Thoughts? we overpay With that being said I don't want Yak near our team except if he is on the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just now, milk and honey said: we overpay With that being said I don't want Yak near our team except if he is on the other team. I don't think it's an overpayment. IMO, both Sbisa and Yakupov's value is no more than a 2nd Round Pick. Therefore they are equal value. Can you expand on your opinion of not wanting him in the dressing room? I haven't heard of any negative issues regarding his attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Huge reclamation project... Mr. Pizza might actually be an overpay, but... hmm. I don't think he's our guy though. Thinking JB wants someone with more crash in their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I think it could be worth a new start for both players that they could use. I say do it Jimbo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I swear to God I've seen this proposal somewhere on CDC already. I think it would be a fair trade. But if we were going to do this, we would have been better off re-signing Hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Our lineup could be something like... Daniel-Henrik-Eriksson Baertschi-Sutter-Hansen Yakupov-Horvat-Rodin/Virtanen Burrows-Granlund-Dorsett Etem Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Tryamkin-Larsen Pedan Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I'd do this deal in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, kloubek said: I swear to God I've seen this proposal somewhere on CDC already. I think it would be a fair trade. But if we were going to do this, we would have been better off re-signing Hammer. I searched first but couldn't find anything similar. I apologize if it is redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I actually proposed this on the Yakupov is worth a 3rd thread in trade rumours. It isn't actually a terrible idea. The guy is young, has all the skill in the world. What we see is he starts to find his groove and makes a mental error or his line mates mess up because they cannot keep up to him and it ends badly, he gets browbeaten and then plays like a kid with literally 0 confidence the next 10 games. Every misstep sees him punished . This is a kid worth the risk and we get a little bit of cap space in the process. A kid with his skill and a grudge to bear with something to prove Ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I don't think Yakupov fits the character mold we are going for. I think I'd rather have Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks3322 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Rather have Evander Kane on the team then Yakopov, if he doesn't like the situation here, he's just going to end up going to the KHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, canucks3322 said: Rather have Evander Kane on the team then Yakopov, if he doesn't like the situation here, he's just going to end up going to the KHL Hell no. Evander Kane would be a horrible influence and role model around our young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Did Yakupov not grow up a Canucks fan? I mean, Bure is his idol. I'd take a chance on him to be honest. Not sure if Edmonton would take Sbisa though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 The feeling is that the Oilers will stay pat. Apparently Demers was only a backup plan if they couldn't get Larsson. Rishaug thinks they still need a PP guy but that they won't make any further moves on D unless they can somehow get Barrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Mouse! Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I doubt Chiarelli would trade Yak within the division. He has the potential to turn his career around and haunt them for years. As a 1 for 1 trade it is actually pretty fair value though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 better than nothing. at least we get rid of sbisa. my preference : Kane over Yakupov in term of production, but reversed regarding the behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Like it was mentioned I think the Oilers have enough sandpaper and want a guy to run their power play. In regards to Canucks with Eriksson and Rodin we are looking to get more sandpaper up front. So I believe in that respect JB is looking for a Brouwer type guy on a cheaper contract. Kane does fit the mold but he needs to sort out his legal issues first and I don't believe Buffalo is actually gonna give him away at this moment. A guy I actually like on Buffalo is Marcus Foligno. He's an RFA. Not sure Buffalo wants to part with him but if they have issues signing him he'd be a guy I would chase. 6'3", hard nosed, can scrap and of course has the name factor. I could see him as a 15 goal scorer with Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 48 minutes ago, Rocksterh8 said: I think it could be worth a new start for both players that they could use. I say do it Jimbo! I don't think Edmonton is ever the 'new start' a player could use :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmead Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, kloubek said: I swear to God I've seen this proposal somewhere on CDC already. I think it would be a fair trade. But if we were going to do this, we would have been better off re-signing Hammer. You've definitely seen it before I suggested it about a month ago and got crucified for the suggestion. Now people are saying it's an overpayment lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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