Anton Rodin | RW/LW

[alfstonker]

1 hour ago, ShakyWalton said:

we will see...I wasnt impressed the first time he was here..but he may prove me wrong.

Well just imagine how I felt watching Baertschi here at first but look how he's turning out. 

[elvis15]

5 hours ago, Wild Sean Monahan said:

Not necessarily. This is little more than speculation and guesswork but I see this playing out similar to Panarin. He'll sign a cheaper contract loaded with performance bonuses which includes a clause that allows him to return to Sweden should he not make the Canucks, i.e.: his spot isn't "gifted".

Yeah, but he won't exactly help us going back to Sweden will he? If he committed to NA and took the first little bit in Utica to get up to speed on the smaller ice he could easily be a call up regularly and permanently later in the season. That also means if he's close then he'll likely get the chance rather than lose him the whole year and it may not work out.

 

A number of posters have complained enough about Virtanen and McCann not being ready but still given a spot on the roster because of their junior eligibility. It'd be a similar situation for Rodin.

[Yukoncanuck87]

It took panarin no time at all to get accustomed to the NA way of hockey so not all players need to go to the AHL sometimes there HIQ is elite n they adapt asat to the NHL. 

[elvis15]

No, not all players need that, but it's sure nice to have the option if they do. Last time around Rodin struggled with the closer checking and we only saw flashes of his offensive skill. He had a few injury problems as well with the more physical play, so he'll have some issues to overcome.

[86Viking]

is rodin able to come over for utica playoffs if we sign him. his league is done before then no? Any news on injury rehab timetable?

[stexx]

5 hours ago, ShakyWalton said:

we will see...I wasnt impressed the first time he was here..but he may prove me wrong.

funny how quickly people forget the issues this kid went through the first two years he was in NA. This has been posted a thousand times but i guess it needs to be posted again.

 

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But not so fast. Nagging, chronic shoulder tendinitis was so bad in parts of last season Rodin couldn’t shoot. Dave Gagner, the Canucks director of player development, said it could impact his chances of playing in the AHL.

“With his shoulders, he gets a little bit sore and it affects his shot and passing and things like that,” Gagner said. “We just have to see how this summer progresses for him. The plan is for him to be over here and play in our American League team this year.”

Rodin has seen several specialists and it’s believed the tendinitis will go away, although there is no timetable. The problem, they’ve concluded, is that the growth plates in his shoulder haven’t closed.  The growth plate is made up of cartilage  which is more vulnerable to injury than mature bones. There is a growth plate at the part of the humerus closest to the shoulder.

It’s limited Rodin in some areas, including some aspects of conditioning.

“It does slow it down a little bit for him because he played last year and there were periods of time where he couldn’t shoot the puck,” Gagner said

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2011/07/07/canucks-top-prospect-slowed-by-ongoing-shoulder-problems/

 

so is it really that surprising that you wernt "impressed" with him in his first stint in NA? 

 

Edited February 23, 2016 by stexx

[Jiggs50]

9 hours ago, Yotes said:

is rodin able to come over for utica playoffs if we sign him. his league is done before then no? Any news on injury rehab timetable?

He was supposedly out 8-10 weeks around late Jan. Done for the year most likely. 

[Honeydew]

 

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Anton Rodin seems to be lost for Brynäs.

Vancouver Canucks want to see him in the NHL next season.

- He has played well in recent years, said the club's general manager Jim Benning.

Injured captain Anton Rodin, 25, may have made his last game in Brynäs sweater. The club that owns his rights in the NHL, Vancouver Canucks, has opened a place for him in next year's NHL squad by sending away the forward Hunter Shinkaruk to Calgary in exchange for Markus Granlund, which is a different type of player than Rodin.

Canucks believe Rödin

- We have Anton Rodin in the Swedish Hockey League and he has played well the last few years and we would like to have him next season, says the Vancouver Canucks general manager Jim Benning to the NHL club's website .

The injury does not affect

Vancouver has closely followed Anton Rödins development and seen his progress in the SHL. The mapping is complete and is not affected by Brynäs Star became the long-term injured for more than a month ago when he ran into a nasty cut injury during a training in Gavle rink .

All indications suggest that Anton Rodin will be offered an NHL contract when his season is officially over.

- He is one of the top players in Europe, the Vancouver club president Trevor Linden told TSN 1040th

Rodin has 37 points (16 goals, 21 assists) in 33 games this season.

 

 

http://www.expressen.se/sport/hockey/shl/rodin-ser-ut-att-vara-forlorad-for-brynas/

Edited February 24, 2016 by Honeydew

[Warhippy]

Can someone PLEASE be the face and voice of reality here

 

1. Who is to say that the issues and injuries he's suffered don't affect his play?
2. Who is to say he will ever produce on North American ice
3. If he does, who is to say he can survive the rigors of the NHL in arguably the largest meanest division?
4. This one is important, aside from lip service what happens if he just doesn't want to come over here?

People are already penciling this guy in to the top line in the NHL and NOBODY knows what kind of player he is...NOBODY knows if he will survive here, produce here or even actually sign and want to come here.

 

Please, temper your damned expectations

[Sean Monahan]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Can someone PLEASE be the face and voice of reality here

 

1. Who is to say that the issues and injuries he's suffered don't affect his play?
2. Who is to say he will ever produce on North American ice
3. If he does, who is to say he can survive the rigors of the NHL in arguably the largest meanest division?
4. This one is important, aside from lip service what happens if he just doesn't want to come over here?

People are already penciling this guy in to the top line in the NHL and NOBODY knows what kind of player he is...NOBODY knows if he will survive here, produce here or even actually sign and want to come here.

 

Please, temper your damned expectations

My expectations are tempered. He could be an effective player like Johan Franzen (drafted at like 24 years old) or could be a nobody like that guy Dallas signed a few years back- Fabian Brunnstrom, was it? 

 

That being said, of the 4 concerns you listed above, you could apply reasons 1 and 3 to Shink as well. Even #2, if you change North American ice to the NHL. Rodin has a higher-end skill set IMO too.

[Pr3mo]

Would he have to sign a Elc? or..? 

[Blueberries]

He has proven he can excel on the big ice, but also proved his game is not made for the NHL.

He had a chance in the AHL, so don't expect him to light it up or even receive a spot on the opening roster...

[Blueberries]

54 minutes ago, Wild Sean Monahan said:

My expectations are tempered. He could be an effective player like Johan Franzen (drafted at like 24 years old) or could be a nobody like that guy Dallas signed a few years back- Fabian Brunnstrom, was it? 

 

That being said, of the 4 concerns you listed above, you could apply reasons 1 and 3 to Shink as well. Even #2, if you change North American ice to the NHL. Rodin has a higher-end skill set IMO too.

No you can't say the same applies for Shink. Shink proved he can score at the AHL level, Rodin has proved he cannot. Shink has rebounded after his injury and you're banking on the premise that Rodin can do the same. 

[wshdrvvn]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Can someone PLEASE be the face and voice of reality here

 

1. Who is to say that the issues and injuries he's suffered don't affect his play?
2. Who is to say he will ever produce on North American ice
3. If he does, who is to say he can survive the rigors of the NHL in arguably the largest meanest division?
4. This one is important, aside from lip service what happens if he just doesn't want to come over here?

People are already penciling this guy in to the top line in the NHL and NOBODY knows what kind of player he is...NOBODY knows if he will survive here, produce here or even actually sign and want to come here.

 

Please, temper your damned expectations

no one knows any of those things.  but we know he is a top player in Sweden and it will be interesting to see him in NA.  He said earlier in the year he still wants to play in the NHL.  so that's all there is right now.  simply an intriguing prospect who might have a sophisticated enough game to jump to the NHL next year.

[86Viking]

40 minutes ago, Blueberries said:

He has proven he can excel on the big ice, but also proved his game is not made for the NHL.

He had a chance in the AHL, so don't expect him to light it up or even receive a spot on the opening roster...

so sounds like he would have been in the same vote as shinkaruk next training camp, an opportunity to contend for a roster spot

[Warhippy]

21 minutes ago, wshdrvvn said:

no one knows any of those things.  but we know he is a top player in Sweden and it will be interesting to see him in NA.  He said earlier in the year he still wants to play in the NHL.  so that's all there is right now.  simply an intriguing prospect who might have a sophisticated enough game to jump to the NHL next year.

Thing is, people in some threads are penciling him in to the top 6 already....he could Brunnstrom on us within 10 games.  Or Rundblad.  MPS, Jonsson, Gustafsson, and Gustafson

 

The list is literally endless.  And most of them didn't come with injury issues or had left north america to go back home for an extended period of time.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Warhippy

[ForsbergTheGreat]

14 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Thing is, people in some threads are penciling him in to the top 6 already....he could Brunnstrom on us within 10 games.  Or Rundblad.  MPS, Jonsson, Gustafsson, and Gustafson

 

The list is literally endless.  And most of them didn't come with injury issues or had left north america to go back home for an extended period of time.

 

He’s going to be giving every chance possible to succeed with our team.  He’s an offensive player, he’s going to be put in offensive situation.  Similarly to if Shinkaruk wanted to crack our roster, it would have been in a top 6 role. He may not turn out and there are lots of players that don’t (majority don’t’), but that doesn’t mean that we should write him off as an asset.   

 

Next season Rodin will be given a ton opportunity, if he works out, awesome we just gained a huge asset. If not he will likely be back in Europe before the season is over.  But it’s a low risk, high reward situation.   I don’t think people are banking on him to be our savior, more of, here’s a young guy with a high potential that may or may not turn out.  But that potential is too great to pass up on, in seeing what you got.  Even if he turns into just a top 9 guy, that's still an asset that could be used in trade value. 

[Warhippy]

4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

 

 

He’s going to be giving every chance possible to succeed with our team.  He’s an offensive player, he’s going to be put in offensive situation.  Similarly to if Shinkaruk wanted to crack our roster, it would have been in a top 6 role. He may not turn out and there are lots of players that don’t (majority don’t’), but that doesn’t mean that we should write him off as an asset.   

 

Next season Rodin will be given a ton opportunity, if he works out, awesome we just gained a huge asset. If not he will likely be back in Europe before the season is over.  But it’s a low risk, high reward situation.   I don’t think people are banking on him to be our savior, more of, here’s a young guy with a high potential that may or may not turn out.  But that potential is too great to pass up on, in seeing what you got.  Even if he turns into just a top 9 guy, that's still an asset that could be used in trade value. 

So

 

let's ask the simple question.  Do you, believe that it was a good idea to deplete our LW depth by trading Shinkaruk for another tweener center because management thinks Rodin will come in and be that guy, at 5 years older and no experience or success on north american ice?

 

People are penciling in Rodin as though he's going to be a success.  But those same people accuse Shinkaruk of being a potential bust.

 

It's beyond confusing really.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Warhippy

[Aladeen]

16 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

So

 

let's ask the simple question.  Do you, believe that it was a good idea to deplete our LW depth by trading Shinkaruk for another tweener center because management thinks Rodin will come in and be that guy, at 5 years older and no experience or success on north american ice?

 

People are penciling in Rodin as though he's going to be a success.  But those same people accuse Shinkaruk of being a potential bust.

 

It's beyond confusing really.

It's weird that there seems to be an internal limit on the number of offensive wingers in this organization, but I suspect Rodin would not sign if there wasn't some substantial guarantees. Trading Shink may have been a signal from Canucks that they are prepared to go all in on Rodin. Although I am not a fan of the Shink trade, I can sort of feel better about it if I think about it like this:

 

Shink for Granlund and Rodin... in reality that would be a trade I would do in a heartbeat if it was offered by another club. 

[higgyfan]

26 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

So

 

let's ask the simple question.  Do you, believe that it was a good idea to deplete our LW depth by trading Shinkaruk for another tweener center because management thinks Rodin will come in and be that guy, at 5 years older and no experience or success on north american ice?

 

People are penciling in Rodin as though he's going to be a success.  But those same people accuse Shinkaruk of being a potential bust.

 

It's beyond confusing really.

Rodin plays RW while Shink plays LW.

 

I haven't read any posts suggesting that Rodin will be a shoe in.  Most people understand the problems he had the first time around, so expectations are low.  The Canucks would be fools not to have another look at him though.

 

Quit making every thread about Shinkaruk.