Gaudette Celly Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 28 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Benning's job is on the line this season too, not just Willie Desjardins. No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Benning's job is on the line this season too, not just Willie Desjardins. He cannot afford to go empty handed again this deadline. His job depends on him selling off the expiring contracts for assets. Turning $&!# into gold isn't realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Baggins said: I don't buy it was left too late last year. Players that are pending ufa's know what's coming. They're not stupid. Talked to yet or not they know what may be coming if out of the playoff race. No team on Vrbata's list was interested as planned by Vrbata. The one team on Hamhuis' list that had any interest got the guy they wanted on deadline day. So what exactly was left too late? Buying GM's start kicking tires weeks before the trade deadline. Kicking tires is just having several options available for crunch time and doesn't mean an actual offer is on the horizon. It's just making a list of who may be available and a ballpark cost. As it gets closer cost versus need versus available gets weighed. Last year Benning said he was getting calls weeks before the deadline but the only actual offers received were from a team Hamhuis declined to go to (Washington) and that last minute bogus offer from Dallas. There was only one team for Benning to deal with last year and they swung their trade on deadline day. So again, what was left too late? Burrows has already been hounded by the press about the deadline. He's completely aware of his situation. So does it matter if Benning has talked to him yet? The same goes for any pending ufa. Actually I would think it does. Burrows has no obligation to waive and if he only gets a few days notice - why should he? It's a decision that doesn't only involve him but also his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: You interpret this statement "It's a sellers market for sure because teams are waiting till the last minute to determine if they are buyers or sellers" as Benning saying he does not know if the Canucks will be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline? Pretty sure he would be referring to other teams with that statement. Yup, I missread that, good catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Playing his cards close to his chest - probably a better idea than telling the whole league his plans like last year. I'd like to see Burr get traded. He had a rough few years since the Torts year but has been "real good" for us this year. It's be nice to see him leave on a high note, I think his performance indicates he was the victim of playing on an awful team for the last while and nothing more, so combine that with his experience and I think there's demand there. We may need to eat about 2mil in salary, but Columbus 2nd, Burrows and salary retention for a 1st is a deal I'd look for. Hansen is cheap, good and experienced - there'll be plenty of callers looking to bolster their bottom 6 with him. And he's signed through next year so not just a rental. Anaheim, Columbus and Minnesota are the potential landing sites I see. Should be looking to push for a 1st by adding a few pieces from our side too. If LA bite on Miller, they make the playoffs. We'd need to retain as much as we can, but again I feel we can milk a first. Offer Miller a big payday for another year here if he tanks them into a valuable pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, StealthNuck said: Uhhh, this is concerning. He hasn't even talked to the players? They're going to wait until the deadline? We're sellers. That's a given. What happens when another team starts selling before we do? When another team is more prepared than we are? I don't want to read too much into this, but it's already sounding like last year where they left everything too late and got burned by more proactive teams. I'm going to set my expectations very low for this deadline. I think his plan is to wait until it's too late and lose Hamhuis and Vrbata for nothing. Oops sorry that was last year... hopefully he has a better plan for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieeater55 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 why tf would jb tell the media what the plan is for TDL ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Baggins said: I don't buy it was left too late last year. Players that are pending ufa's know what's coming. They're not stupid. Talked to yet or not they know what may be coming if out of the playoff race. No team on Vrbata's list was interested as planned by Vrbata. The one team on Hamhuis' list that had any interest got the guy they wanted on deadline day. So what exactly was left too late? Buying GM's start kicking tires weeks before the trade deadline. Kicking tires is just having several options available for crunch time and doesn't mean an actual offer is on the horizon. It's just making a list of who may be available and a ballpark cost. As it gets closer cost versus need versus available gets weighed. Last year Benning said he was getting calls weeks before the deadline but the only actual offers received were from a team Hamhuis declined to go to (Washington) and that last minute bogus offer from Dallas. There was only one team for Benning to deal with last year and they swung their trade on deadline day. So again, what was left too late? Burrows has already been hounded by the press about the deadline. He's completely aware of his situation. So does it matter if Benning has talked to him yet? The same goes for any pending ufa. There were 152 players that made it to free agency last July so apparently there must be a lot of bad GM's out there that don't have a clue when it comes to asset management. CDC would explode if we let Backes and Brouwer walk for nothing as St. Louis did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, apollo said: I think his plan is to wait until it's too late and lose Hamhuis and Vrbata for nothing. Oops sorry that was last year... hopefully he has a better plan for this year. What did Boston get for Eriksson? What did LA get for Lucic? What did NYI get for Okposo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, mll said: Actually I would think it does. Burrows has no obligation to waive and if he only gets a few days notice - why should he? It's a decision that doesn't only involve him but also his family. Burrows knows his status. What difference does it make if Benning talks to him two weeks before the deadline or 5 days? If you were in that position are you telling me you wouldn't think about that possibility? Two weeks or five days he still has his ntc - why should he waive either way? He's had a the same amount of time to think about it regardless of Benning actually talking to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I like how people are giving JB crud for not selling out on his players, but if you actually listen to his interview there are a bunch of teams doing the exact same thing. Unless you know the playoffs are not a possibility, why would you turn on your players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, SILLY GOOSE said: I like how people are giving JB crud for not selling out on his players, but if you actually listen to his interview there are a bunch of teams doing the exact same thing. Unless you know the playoffs are not a possibility, why would you turn on your players? Because with three points games, it is virtually impossible for a team to be eliminated from playoff contention prior to the deadline. The question shouldn't be about whether the playoffs are possible, the question should be whether the playoffs are realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Baggins said: Burrows knows his status. What difference does it make if Benning talks to him two weeks before the deadline or 5 days? If you were in that position are you telling me you wouldn't think about that possibility? Two weeks or five days he still has his ntc - why should he waive either way? He's had a the same amount of time to think about it regardless of Benning actually talking to him. He told Montreal media this week that he does not want to leave Vancouver re his family. He says if he is asked to waive he would need to sit down with them and discuss it as well as with his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: There were 152 players that made it to free agency last July so apparently there must be a lot of bad GM's out there that don't have a clue when it comes to asset management. CDC would explode if we let Backes and Brouwer walk for nothing as St. Louis did. That's a question I keep asking those that complain about losing a player for nothing. Where do you think all those ufa's come from July1st? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This is Jim Benning we're talking about, we all know he'd rather let players walk than make a trade at the deadline. There will be no trades as per usual. standing pat is always the best - Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The key is that we are in a rebuild and Benning needs to be focusing on the future. If there is the potential to land future assets for players who are not in the long term plans then he needs to pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, StealthNuck said: Uhhh, this is concerning. He hasn't even talked to the players? They're going to wait until the deadline? We're sellers. That's a given. What happens when another team starts selling before we do? When another team is more prepared than we are? I don't want to read too much into this, but it's already sounding like last year where they left everything too late and got burned by more proactive teams. I'm going to set my expectations very low for this deadline. everyone should, the ED is going to bog things right down. I know some here don't think it will, but I don't know why a team would pay a decent price for a player they have to expose, or to protect and expose a player on their current roster. That said, UFA's should still be on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, Down by the River said: Because with three points games, it is virtually impossible for a team to be eliminated from playoff contention prior to the deadline. The question shouldn't be about whether the playoffs are possible, the question should be whether the playoffs are realistic. JB has already said that if the right deal pops up that makes sense for the club, he would do it. That's being realistic. At the same time why give up on your players, if the possibility is still there? Not exactly wishful thinking, it's treating the players in your club with the respect they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: I wouldn't say the Canucks are definitely sellers at the TDL. This is the Canucks, and if there's a 0.0000001% chance of making the playoffs, they'll bring in a player to help them get there. The owners would have it no other way. He emphasized they will be looking 4 long term help, not rentals. Linden said the same. He also said not allot has been happening because the playoff race is so close. There is nothing wrong with waiting until there is something to bring to a player before he asks them anything. He doesnt want it to be a distraction right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 So, Jim wants to wait to see what happens over the next 5 games. I know how they insist on playing the right way, but what about rebuilding the right way? What astonishing epiphany will TL and JB have over the next 5 games to lead them to believe that this team can compete for a Cup? Just because they might possibly make it to the playoffs, doesn't mean they should halt the rebuild. Focus Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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