Popular Post Butters Stoch Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 Half of this team's toughness just left for Russia. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Butters Stoch said: Half of this team's toughness just left for Russia. Really makes you wonder if coaching and management dropped the ball on Tryamkin. Wow, what crappy news for our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Really makes you wonder if coaching and management dropped the ball on Tryamkin. Wow, what crappy news for our club. They completely did with their idiotic "Re-tool" BS. Willie was told to compete for playoffs, so he did the best he could. Which meant limiting the exposure of the prospects. The entire group of Retools need to apologize for losing a fan favorite, promising prospect, and a big part of the future of the team due to their ineptitude. Get the coach right you bunch of maroons. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Butters Stoch said: Half of this team's toughness just left for Russia. Hmmm, not sure. Just because someone's "big", doesn't mean they're tough. I actually thought he seemed somewhat apprehensive when engaging in scrums. Not sure it was his deal. I mean, a guy who apologizes and is outwardly upset over being penalized? I had hopes that he'd develop a snarl/edge, but there's nothing guaranteeing that. Mind you, just having a guy of that stature in the line up can be a deterrent, but if he wasn't willing to use his size then the word would get out on that. We just didn't get a chance to find out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 We need a coach that doesn't chew gum, the toughness will soon follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35Godz1lla Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Hmmm, not sure. Just because someone's "big", doesn't mean they're tough. I actually thought he seemed somewhat apprehensive when engaging in scrums. Not sure it was his deal. I mean, a guy who apologizes and is outwardly upset over being penalized? I had hopes that he'd develop a snarl/edge, but there's nothing guaranteeing that. Mind you, just having a guy of that stature in the line up can be a deterrent, but if he wasn't willing to use his size then the word would get out on that. We just didn't get a chance to find out. Tryamkin was more friendly giant than anything, which was sad because when he decided to play mean and tough he was unstoppable, for all of that single 30 seconds to 1 minute shift, then he would go right back to friendly giant again. 7 hours ago, Butters Stoch said: Half of this team's toughness just left for Russia. His 2.2 hits per game is about what Gudbranson averages, soooo, yah. With a full year of Dorsett and Quads we will be fine. Edited April 20, 2017 by R35Godz1lla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 21 hours ago, Googlie said: Reading all these knocks against our non-fighting Euros led me to google the following: Joe Sakic's greatest fights - just 1 in his career Steve Yzerman's greatest fights - just 1 in his career I don't think their teams suffered due to these good BC boys' lack of "toughness " Toughness doesn't necessarily mean you drop the gloves at any given moment. It's grit and mental fortitude. Play in the rough and tough areas of the ice win the puck at any cost to YOU. Go to the front of the net and take the abuse the defense will throw at you. I mean it's not like the league not too long ago when almost anything went to clear the front of the net. WIN the puck along the boards don't wait for someone to do it for you. Players like the 2 you mentioned benefited greatly from open ice created by team toughness. Hesitate a fraction of a second cuz the guy chasing the puck into the corner plays the game physically hard and before you know it he sends it to Yzerman and its in your net. Canadian hockey was always built on mental and physical toughness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Benning has his work cut out for him this off season. While I'm hopeful that Hischier will become a Canuck and join a promising young core, there is a definite need to add a physical element to a forward corps that has been given an infusion of youth and speed already. As well, sadly, there is a very large hole in the defense that needs to be filled. I don't envy Trader Jim this offseason, as coming back with essentially the same team, minus Miller and Tryamkin, will spell trouble for an already beleaguered season ticket base. Edited April 21, 2017 by PhillipBlunt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Don't worry The Sedin-style leadership will see this team through its lack of physicality. (If not, our 13th forward and number 5 Dman will try to get on the ice to retaliate and seek retribution on systems that recognize and exploit this small, young team) Slim-Jim has their work cut out for them now. And that wonderful young D fallacy looks even more ridiculous today, but, silver-linings, I look forward to drafting Dahlin in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 On 4/20/2017 at 11:27 AM, debluvscanucks said: Hmmm, not sure. Just because someone's "big", doesn't mean they're tough. I actually thought he seemed somewhat apprehensive when engaging in scrums. Not sure it was his deal. I mean, a guy who apologizes and is outwardly upset over being penalized? I had hopes that he'd develop a snarl/edge, but there's nothing guaranteeing that. Mind you, just having a guy of that stature in the line up can be a deterrent, but if he wasn't willing to use his size then the word would get out on that. We just didn't get a chance to find out. A couple of things mentioned the Tryamkin thread from interviews was he didn't like fighting and he couldn't understand why guys would come after him for throwing a legal hit. I'd say snarl isn't really in his game and it's why he'd rather not play as physical as management would like him to. He's young though and maybe he'll get that edge with age and experience. But if he's really worried about having to fight he may never develop that edge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 21 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Benning has his work cut out for him this off season. While I'm hopeful that Hischier will become a Canuck and join a promising young core, there is a definite need to add a physical element to a forward corps that has been given an infusion of youth and speed already. As well, sadly, there is a very large hole in the defense that needs to be filled. I don't envy Trader Jim this offseason, as coming back with essentially the same team, minus Miller and Tryamkin, will spell trouble for an already beleaguered season ticket base. They want Miller back but can't do anything about until after the expansion draft. Any sooner and either Miller or Markstrom gets exposed. They wait and it's Bachman that's exposed. I think the defense is fine. We spent most of last season without Gudbranson. We have some depth there. I don't think next year is nearly as bleak as you believe. next year there's young forwards with actual offensive ability available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Baggins said: They want Miller back but can't do anything about until after the expansion draft. Any sooner and either Miller or Markstrom gets exposed. They wait and it's Bachman that's exposed. I think the defense is fine. We spent most of last season without Gudbranson. We have some depth there. I don't think next year is nearly as bleak as you believe. next year there's young forwards with actual offensive ability available. Considering WD and the troops fought back hard and got back into it after a nearly ten game losing streak and kept us close until it all but impossible to get in there is reason for optimism with a better coach. Personally I'd rather just get it over with at this point and be terrible for two or three more years to get three or four quality prospects/ future stars. Management would be wise to keep Juolevi and this year's pick down no matter the temptation let them play in Utica. Boesser will make the team which will off set losing Tryamkin plus Guddy back. The worse thing that could happen to this team is becoming a fringe playoff one...We need to suck for a little while longer. Guess we will find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Baggins said: They want Miller back but can't do anything about until after the expansion draft. Any sooner and either Miller or Markstrom gets exposed. They wait and it's Bachman that's exposed. Fair enough. Good point. 1 hour ago, Baggins said: I think the defense is fine. We spent most of last season without Gudbranson. We have some depth there. I don't think next year is nearly as bleak as you believe. next year there's young forwards with actual offensive ability available. I think that the loss of Tryamkin will hurt somewhat, but having Gudbranson back will be very helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Fair enough. Good point. I think that the loss of Tryamkin will hurt somewhat, but having Gudbranson back will be very helpful. I'll admit I was hoping to see a Guddy/Try pairing at some point down the road. But life goes on and at least Guddy wants to be here. There still plenty to be excited about on the D side. But what has me looking forward to next season is the prospect of some new young forwards with some real offensive talent joining the team. think about it, Boeser had 4 goal and an assist in 9 games and Goldobin 3 goals in 12 games. The of course there's also possibilities in Gaudette, Dahlen and this years high 1st rounder. As far as I'm concerned there's a great deal to look forward to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 On 20/04/2017 at 2:12 PM, BabychStache said: They completely did with their idiotic "Re-tool" BS. Willie was told to compete for playoffs, so he did the best he could. Which meant limiting the exposure of the prospects. The entire group of Retools need to apologize for losing a fan favorite, promising prospect, and a big part of the future of the team due to their ineptitude. Get the coach right you bunch of maroons. A bunch of Maroons would solve our toughness issues too. And if they get otherworldly Mcenters we can expect almost thirty goals per piece. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I'll say it again. What toughness? When Benning first came in, he said he wanted to bring in players that would allow the skill guys to "play with courage". Those were his exact words - "play with courage". The one and only guy I can think of that may fit that quote would be Guddy but as we've seen, that was a gross misjudgement. Dorsett is all heart and character but he constantly punches above his weight class. Love the guy but he's just not enough. I'm sick of watching my home team get pushed around and frankly, in my mind, immasculated too often. I crave a big tough mean team that forcefully puts pressure on its opposition and doesn't wear out down the stretch due to size issues. Look at what Chiarelli has done in Edmonton bringing in Maroon, Kassian and Lucic to complement the youth and allow them to feel there's someone there to back them up. It makes a difference. Benning talked a big game but in my mind, he's failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Canucks team tries to intimidate teams with NICENESS. Like when our guys pick up sticks off the ice after the whistle and bring them back to the opponent..... The Canuck niceness techniques basically makes opponents feel guilty about hurting our players and/or scoring on our goalie. So the Canucks choose NICENESS over TOUGHNESS. It is Bennings strategy to win in the new NHL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 On 4/20/2017 at 11:32 AM, Dumb Nuck said: We need a coach that doesn't chew gum, the toughness will soon follow. Bob Dylan said, If you don't want to be a bum, you'd better chew gum. That's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Bob Dylan said, If you don't want to be a bum, you'd better chew gum. That's good enough for me. Take a deep breath..feel like yer chokin' Evvveryythingg is broken!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Take a deep breath..feel like yer chokin' Evvveryythingg is broken!!! The sun ain't yellow, it's chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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