SingleThorn Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: As long as he’s not a Dodge Stratus... Haha........I owned a Plymouth Breeze. Basically, the same car. Absolute garbage ! Will never touch another Chrysler product. PS........when I first bought it, I kept finding myself humming JJ Cale's 'Call me the breeze', so there were positive moments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 hours ago, kloubek said: Seeing him out there against NHL competition was an eye opener. (Granted the competition was one of the worst teams in the league). His vision is excellent and he thinks the game quickly. His skating is as advertised both from a speed as well as mobility perspective. I know it is only one game, but I already believe he will be a #1d in relatively short order. But much like Pettersson, I'm not sure how high his ceiling really is. I will also say that I remain concerned about his size and subsequent durability. The one hit I saw him take sent him flying tonight. I think he is going to have to use that skating regularly to keep himself from getting crushed. He is also going to need a very defensively responsible partner to allow him to pinch as deep as it appears he likes to do. By definition he is not #1 D. His size limits his potential on the defensive side especially during playoffs. #1D has to be able to carry physical D puck battles on his own. Quinn needs bigger partners to help him in this respect. Quinn is a unique talent. His talent level is already top 5 in the entire NHL D. However, he is not the prototypical #1D. Hopefully Vancouver can draft a legit #1 D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, Maddogy said: By definition he is not #1 D. His size limits his potential on the defensive side especially during playoffs. #1D has to be able to carry physical D puck battles on his own. Quinn needs bigger partners to help him in this respect. Quinn is a unique talent. His talent level is already top 5 in the entire NHL D. However, he is not the prototypical #1D. Hopefully Vancouver can draft a legit #1 D. Who's definition is that? And who is to say with a sample size of 1 NHL game that his talent is at the very top of the NHL? I feel your post makes some large assumptions. In my opinion, the NHL is changing from coveting size to coveting speed and skill. What you may have expected in the past to be a top prototypical D may no longer be. To me, a #1D designation is simply a guy who can put up lots of points from the back end. (And hopefully has enough defensive ability as to not offset those points by giving up too many chances). I can't speak much to his defensive side yet but I do believe he will score a lot of points. I think he will give our PP a huge boost as well. What -I- believe a #1d to be, I think he will do just fine - particularly if he is paired with linemates who can stick up for him (Schenn) as well as a pairing partner who is able to anticipate his pinches and can cover for him. (Not Schenn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Edler - Stecher Hughes - Tanev Hutton - ? Potential candidates for Hughes' partner next season in ideal order: Gardiner, Tanev, Stecher, Schenn, Biega I would have no issues with getting Gardiner for the right price while hopefully his stock is a little low. So I agree with you there. But Hughes and Gardiner together? I think that would be a disaster. Gardiner is not terribly defensively aware so while Hughes skates deep in, we run a huge risk of odd man rushes the other way. I would say Tanev is the perfect partner if it wasnt for the fact he is injured so much and didnt have a great season this year and might be regressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JM_ Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, kloubek said: I would have no issues with getting Gardiner for the right price while hopefully his stock is a little low. So I agree with you there. But Hughes and Gardiner together? I think that would be a disaster. Gardiner is not terribly defensively aware so while Hughes skates deep in, we run a huge risk of odd man rushes the other way. I would say Tanev is the perfect partner if it wasnt for the fact he is injured so much and didnt have a great season this year and might be regressing. the radio guys on 650 are drooling over the idea of Gardiner, but man he's got long term bust written all over him. I hope we stay far away from that. Edler brings everything and more than Gardiner, and we're actually doing pretty well now on left side d. We need right side help much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Maddogy said: By definition he is not #1 D. His size limits his potential on the defensive side especially during playoffs. #1D has to be able to carry physical D puck battles on his own. Quinn needs bigger partners to help him in this respect. Quinn is a unique talent. His talent level is already top 5 in the entire NHL D. However, he is not the prototypical #1D. Hopefully Vancouver can draft a legit #1 D. So what is your definition of a #1 D? Duncan Keith and Erik Karlsson are similar height to Quinn. They were both around the same weight when they broke into the league as well. The kid dazzled in his first NHL game, has been #1 defenseman on all his junior / college teams, and you're already saying he's not a #1 defenseman lmao. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, 250Integra said: So what is your definition of a #1 D? Duncan Keith and Erik Karlsson are similar height to Quinn. They were both around the same weight when they broke into the league as well. The kid dazzled in his first NHL game, has been #1 defenseman on all his junior / college teams, and you're already saying he's not a #1 defenseman lmao. Comparing Quinn to legit #1 D such as John Carlson and Drew Doughty, he lacks net-front clearing strength, physical ability to knock players off the puck, an effective slap shot from the point as well as the ability to log long hard minutes during the 4 rounds of playoff grind against top talents and physical grinders. I expect Quinn to alleviate some of his shortcomings as he develops and matures. He is only 19. It is however difficult for him to grow into the all-around dominate #1 that only a few teams possess. He is however an unique talent. He may one day command a salary that is in the ballpark of Drew Doughty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Come all without, come all within You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Maddogy said: Comparing Quinn to legit #1 D such as John Carlson and Drew Doughty, he lacks net-front clearing strength, physical ability to knock players off the puck, an effective slap shot from the point as well as the ability to log long hard minutes during the 4 rounds of playoff grind against top talents and physical grinders. I expect Quinn to alleviate some of his shortcomings as he develops and matures. He is only 19. It is however difficult for him to grow into the all-around dominate #1 that only a few teams possess. He is however an unique talent. He may one day command a salary that is in the ballpark of Drew Doughty. you can’t nitpick Carlson and Doughty and ignore Keith, McAvoy, Karlsson, Letang. There isn’t a prototypical build to a number 1 dman. Sure, Chara and Burns are huge, good for them. Burns has how many cups? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Maddogy said: Comparing Quinn to legit #1 D such as John Carlson and Drew Doughty, he lacks net-front clearing strength, physical ability to knock players off the puck, an effective slap shot from the point as well as the ability to log long hard minutes during the 4 rounds of playoff grind against top talents and physical grinders. I expect Quinn to alleviate some of his shortcomings as he develops and matures. He is only 19. It is however difficult for him to grow into the all-around dominate #1 that only a few teams possess. He is however an unique talent. He may one day command a salary that is in the ballpark of Drew Doughty. Are you infering that Karlsson, Keith, Josi, Letang... are not LEGIT #1 defensemen? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkingz Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I wish some people would pump the brakes, take a step back and just appreciate what we were able to witness. Hughes had an amazing first NHL game. We hope he will have many more in the future. Comparing him to established NHL defensemen at this point is ridiculous. Sit back, enjoy the ride and don't panic. Whatever happens, will happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DJSkingz said: I wish some people would pump the brakes, take a step back and just appreciate what we were able to witness. Hughes had an amazing first NHL game. We hope he will have many more in the future. Comparing him to established NHL defensemen at this point is ridiculous. Sit back, enjoy the ride and don't panic. Whatever happens, will happen. Orr what? Edited March 29, 2019 by 73 Percent 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 10:22 AM, Sean Monahan said: Fifty years from now your lil guy will look back on his childhood and fondly remember the night he witnessed the franchise change forever This aged well. I am a prophet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maddogy said: Comparing Quinn to legit #1 D such as John Carlson and Drew Doughty, he lacks net-front clearing strength, physical ability to knock players off the puck, an effective slap shot from the point as well as the ability to log long hard minutes during the 4 rounds of playoff grind against top talents and physical grinders. I agree with you to a large degree on what he lacks, and those traits will have to be found in other players not named Hughes. But to me, that doesnt eliminate his potential success playing top minutes - it just means more careful consideration of the players thar surround him... particularly who he is paired with. Its like saying Jack won't be able to be a #1c. He could and very possibly will be, but you have to offset his shortcomings (no pun intended) with the rest of the roster. Closer to home, it is why so many of us want to see a big strong winger with Pettersson. But Pettersson is clearly a #1c. (At least, most of us think so) Edited March 29, 2019 by kloubek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, kloubek said: I agree with you to a large degree on what he lacks, and those traits will have to be found in other players not named Hughes. But to me, that doesnt eliminate his potential success playing top minutes - it just means more careful consideration of the players thar surround him... particularly who he is paired with. Its like saying Jack won't be able to be a #1c. He could and very possibly will be, but you have to offset his shortcomings (no pun intended) with the rest of the roster. Closer to home, it is why so many of us want to see a big strong winger with Pettersson. But Pettersson is clearly a #1c. (At least, most of us think so) Definitely. It's sort like us drafting Johnny Gaudreau as opposed to Alex Ovechkin. Gaudreau is not as complete of a player as Ovie but that's OK if the rest of your team is well balanced. It would be nice to draft a legit #1 D though. It would take the pressure off Quinn and allow him to be the specialist game breaker that he is meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Hughes was real good in his 1st game. Made me jump out of my seat a couple of times. Really like that he's paired with Schenn. The future is very bright. Love his attitude too. Thanking Canucks fans for making him feel so welcome during his 1st game. Classy. I wonder if Woo will eventually take over Schenn's position (2020/21). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: The Next Generation Shift: That’s some pretty hockey. I could get used to this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Maddogy said: Comparing Quinn to legit #1 D such as John Carlson and Drew Doughty, he lacks net-front clearing strength, physical ability to knock players off the puck, an effective slap shot from the point as well as the ability to log long hard minutes during the 4 rounds of playoff grind against top talents and physical grinders. I expect Quinn to alleviate some of his shortcomings as he develops and matures. He is only 19. It is however difficult for him to grow into the all-around dominate #1 that only a few teams possess. He is however an unique talent. He may one day command a salary that is in the ballpark of Drew Doughty. Ya...but...did you see what Quinn did in OT...Doughty can't even dream about doing that stuff...EP, BB and QH skated circles around Doughty's Kings and that is just the beginning. If we make it to OT next year we will win 90% of them...that alone would have got us into the playoffs this year...! There are 31 teams in the league and therefore 31 legit #1 D. Quinn looks like he is going to qualify and Joulevi still has a chance to be that guy as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, nergish said: That’s some pretty hockey. I could get used to this. The time has come... We have arrived at the flight terminal ...prepare for takeoff...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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