Nucker 67 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I'd be okay with this: 1 - Soderstrom (Already playing (well) against men. A year ahead of his development) 2. Hoglander Hoglander - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Eberle (sign this guy for Bo, he deserves it) Hughes - Soderstrom Juolevi - Woo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Very very weak arguement on your side. (First off was not a fan of the jake or Olli selections). No bloody $&!# great dmans were picked beyond 10, I can the same great forwards were drafted at or later. The given info right now is that he’s not top pairing guy, he’s also top pp unit it. He’s not an offensive dynamo, he’s also not a shut down specialist. He’s not the fastest guy and he does not even have size. Is he even tough ? Nope. so we are using our high pick on 2nd pairing material type of player. Hugh pass. you bring up jake I bring up brock. So lets hear your foolproof suggestion then. I suggested 1 player and you're suggesting 3 positions. What forward do you like exactly that will be there at 10? Lets assume Hughes Cozens Turcotte Krebs Kakko Dach Podkolzin Zegras Are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Many very good defensman, and even a handful of franchise defensman were chosen at 10 or later. Any player that we take will have some holes in his game. I think it would be wise to choose to fill a position of weakness (rd) if deciding between multiple players when our number is called. Picking a forward is no less risk than picking a defensman here You mention olli I'll mention virtanen. Either/both of whom could still become very good NHL'ers as well. People REALLY need to realize there are no guarantees at the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Either/both of whom could still become very good NHL'ers as well. People REALLY need to realize there are no guarantees at the draft. Agreed. My first choice is actually trading a pick for a rhd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, 73 Percent said: Agreed. My first choice is actually trading a pick for a rhd. I think we should trade other pieces for a young RHD. Complement that with a couple key but not Karlsson/Panarin tier UFA's (call it upper mid tier), keep the pick and continue building through the draft. Happy to take whoever they thinks is best at 10...whether that's Boldy, Zegras, Soderstrom, Seider etc, etc...They're all pretty equal in value and probability. But people get stuck on 'their guy'... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 If Benning is looking for another home run could Moritz Seider be that guy?? Currently not projected to be a top pairing defence man but if his game progresses with his size he could be an absolute stud. We need size on our team to compete in the playoffs. Is it fair to say we can find skilled top 6 wingers in the second round? Is 10 to early to pick Seider? Could we trade down to say 14-16 and try to acquire another pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Canucks have a Top 10 pick. I'm not sure they're going to want to DROP more in the draft order when the Draft is in VAN. It's not about the quantity of picks, but the quality. I'd trade the 7 picks we have in Rounds 3-7 for two more 1sts, for example 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Canucks have a Top 10 pick. I'm not sure they're going to want to DROP more in the draft order when the Draft is in VAN. It's not about the quantity of picks, but the quality. I'd trade the 7 picks we have in Rounds 3-7 for two more 1sts, for example I would be happy to see them drop down 1 or two spots if it still meant that GMJB could get his guy and perhaps add another 3rd or 4th round pick. Unless of course, his guy is at #10 then grab him. The Canucks have improved the prospect pool but it ism still a fairly shallow pool of potential NHL'ers so more picks are a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 9 hours ago, filthycanuck said: yup. OHL and USNDP is much different. Imagine taking the absolute best players in the CHL, putting them on one team, playing against everyone else. USNDP is the best players USA hockey has to offer from coast to coast The USNDP team that plays in the USHL made up of players who are 17 years old to start the year. The rest of the league can have guys who are 20 to start the year. They also only play 25 or so games in this league, the rest are against national teams, NCAA teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 COHEN: Is Moritz Seider the most interesting player in the draft? Russ CohenColumnist The 2019 NHL Draft is months away, but some players are shining on and off the ice. Moritz Seider is one of those players and he’s doing it in Germany. German defenseman aren’t new to the NHL. I covered Dennis Seidenberg back when he played for the Philadelphia Phantoms. He was a 2001 draft pick, a sixth-rounder, back then he was one of a few but he, Uwe Krupp and Christian Ehrhoff, were thought to be the gold standard until Seider. He could be the best, he has a long way to go before we see if that shakes out but he’s off to a great start. The Adler Manheim defenseman had two goals and six points in 29 games this season as a 17-year-old. He had a point in his first two playoff games as well. At 6-4, 198 pounds, he has the kind of frame teams love. He’s at the start of his potential, not the end. There’s a lot of room for growth. There have been a few teams scouting him recently. He plays a good, simple game and he’s a very down to earth guy. Many are talking about his calmness on the ice, another really good 21st-century trait that teams really like. To potentially draft a defenseman, who is low maintenance, with this kind of size, that puts him on a lot of teams’ radar for sure. He could be a top 15 pick before it’s all said and done. Seider is playing against men and having success. He’s already had really good success at the International level, so this was a good year for him in regard to his development and him getting some recognition as we get closer to the NHL Draft. In a field of four other players, Seider was up for the DEL Rookie of the Year Award. I’m sure many felt he had a really good chance to win the prestigious award and he did just that. Once again this speaks to the resume and intrigue that’s growing. Leon Draisaitl was called “The German Gretzky” and well all wrote about it and said it when it was getting close to the draft. Seider hasn’t earned some sort of nickname just yet. None that might translate here. That’s probably the next thing that will happen in the evolution of his story. He’s had to overcome some adversity this year. He had a shoulder injury early on and that cut down the number of his games. Nobody seems to be worried about it so that’s not going to drop him in the draft. Now add the award that he’s won and couple that with the fact that he’s a right-handed shot, and now you have someone who doesn’t seem like he will drop out of the Top 20. Defenseman are a high form of currency in a teams’ organization these days. If you develop them, you get the benefit of having one of six in your everyday lineup. If you draft a promising defenseman but find yourself in a situation where you have to trade one. The value of a good one is very high and extremely desirable. Most aren’t available in free agency, so teams mostly get them in trade, or they draft them. After the draft, Seider will likely come over and either play junior hockey or even play in the AHL. Owen Sound has his draft rights so that’s one option for sure. The fact that he has a physical side to his game and he already has good size, I don’t think the AHL is out of question. Some teams would really like that because they’d be able to get him playing their way right away and that’s proved to be an effective way to bring along some players. William Nylander did it successfully. Kevin Fiala as well. Hampus Lindholm and Oliver Kylington played in the AHL when they were just 18 as well. Those two are especially good examples because they’re defenseman. You never know at what age a prospect will make their NHL debut unless they are a top 2 pick, those players you have a better idea. With Seider, you get the idea that he needs further development, but the curve may not be as long as a typical defenseman. He doesn’t seem like a typical defenseman, and not because he’s German, he’s just different. He seems to be ahead of schedule mentally and physically he’s got the size part all worked out as he waits for his man strength to work its way in. When that happens, he could be a scary player to face. I expect a lot more stories to come out about him before June. We’re still just scratching the surface in learning about him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) USA Finland WJC is on tsn replay man Kakko is a beauty. Edited April 17, 2019 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: COHEN: Is Moritz Seider the most interesting player in the draft? I'm really high on him thanks for posting Edited April 17, 2019 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 What if Jersey takes Hughes with the #1 pick and NYR offers us the #2 pick for Quinn? Who here would take that deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said: What if Jersey takes Hughes with the #1 pick and NYR offers us the #2 pick for Quinn? Who here would take that deal? Value wise it sounds good for both sides, but it seems like we’d be taking from one pocket to fill another. We’d lose potentially our only #1 dman in our history and get a #1 left wing. I say we stay as is and look to get a LW through the draft and go the Boldy/Krebs route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathrowe Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 JD Burke released draft rankings for elite prospects today. Surprised by some of the rankings, Zegras at 21 and Bobby Brink at 12. He has Broberg rated at 33 i believe as well. This draft is shaping up to be quite interesting as far as rankings, i assume things will start to solidify a bit more over the next two months before the draft though. 1 Jack Hughes (C) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 43 25 67 92 20 2 Kaapo Kakko (RW) TPS Liiga 45 22 16 38 10 3 Vasili Podkolzin (RW) SKA-1946 St. Petersburg MHL 12 6 2 8 2 4 Bowen Byram (D) Vancouver Giants WHL 67 26 45 71 80 5 Dylan Cozens (C/RW) Lethbridge Hurricanes WHL 68 34 50 84 30 6 Alex Turcotte (C) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 30 23 30 53 18 7 Kirby Dach (C) Saskatoon Blades WHL 62 25 48 73 40 8 Peyton Krebs (LW/C) Kootenay Ice WHL 64 19 49 68 63 9 Alex Newhook (C) Victoria Grizzlies BCHL 53 38 64 102 21 10 Matthew Boldy (LW) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 57 30 39 69 28 11 Arthur Kaliyev (LW) Hamilton Bulldogs OHL 67 51 51 102 22 12 Bobby Brink (RW) Sioux City Musketeers USHL 43 35 33 68 22 13 Cole Caufield (C/RW) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 57 58 24 82 35 14 Victor Söderström (D) Brynäs IF SHL 44 4 3 7 22 15 Pavel Dorofeyev (LW/RW) Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk MHL 19 17 14 31 14 16 Raphaël Lavoie (C/RW) Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL 62 32 41 73 31 17 Moritz Seider (D) Adler Mannheim DEL 29 2 4 6 8 18 Nils Höglander (LW) Rögle BK SHL 50 7 7 14 22 19 Ville Heinola (D) Lukko Liiga 34 2 12 14 26 20 Cam York (D) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 56 10 44 54 16 21 Trevor Zegras (C/W) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 55 26 52 78 92 22 Thomas Harley (D) Mississauga Steelheads OHL 68 11 47 58 24 23 Ryan Suzuki (C) Barrie Colts OHL 65 25 50 75 14 24 Jakob Pelletier (LW) Moncton Wildcats QMJHL 65 39 50 89 24 25 Connor McMichael (C) London Knights OHL 67 36 36 72 19 26 Ryan Johnson (D) Sioux Falls Stampede USHL 54 6 19 25 26 27 Anttoni Honka (D) JYP Liiga 16 1 3 4 6 28 Albin Grewe (C/RW) Djurgårdens IF J20 SuperElit 25 13 21 34 102 29 Samuel Poulin (LW) Sherbrooke Phoenix QMJHL 67 29 47 76 46 30 Mikko Kokkonen (D) Jukurit Liiga 56 3 16 19 20 31 Philip Tomasino (C) Niagara IceDogs OHL 67 34 38 72 32 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deathrowe said: JD Burke released draft rankings for elite prospects today. Surprised by some of the rankings, Zegras at 21 and Bobby Brink at 12. He has Broberg rated at 33 i believe as well. This draft is shaping up to be quite interesting as far as rankings, i assume things will start to solidify a bit more over the next two months before the draft though. 1 Jack Hughes (C) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 43 25 67 92 20 2 Kaapo Kakko (RW) TPS Liiga 45 22 16 38 10 3 Vasili Podkolzin (RW) SKA-1946 St. Petersburg MHL 12 6 2 8 2 4 Bowen Byram (D) Vancouver Giants WHL 67 26 45 71 80 5 Dylan Cozens (C/RW) Lethbridge Hurricanes WHL 68 34 50 84 30 6 Alex Turcotte (C) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 30 23 30 53 18 7 Kirby Dach (C) Saskatoon Blades WHL 62 25 48 73 40 8 Peyton Krebs (LW/C) Kootenay Ice WHL 64 19 49 68 63 9 Alex Newhook (C) Victoria Grizzlies BCHL 53 38 64 102 21 10 Matthew Boldy (LW) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 57 30 39 69 28 11 Arthur Kaliyev (LW) Hamilton Bulldogs OHL 67 51 51 102 22 12 Bobby Brink (RW) Sioux City Musketeers USHL 43 35 33 68 22 13 Cole Caufield (C/RW) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 57 58 24 82 35 14 Victor Söderström (D) Brynäs IF SHL 44 4 3 7 22 15 Pavel Dorofeyev (LW/RW) Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk MHL 19 17 14 31 14 16 Raphaël Lavoie (C/RW) Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL 62 32 41 73 31 17 Moritz Seider (D) Adler Mannheim DEL 29 2 4 6 8 18 Nils Höglander (LW) Rögle BK SHL 50 7 7 14 22 19 Ville Heinola (D) Lukko Liiga 34 2 12 14 26 20 Cam York (D) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 56 10 44 54 16 21 Trevor Zegras (C/W) U.S. National U18 Team USDP 55 26 52 78 92 22 Thomas Harley (D) Mississauga Steelheads OHL 68 11 47 58 24 23 Ryan Suzuki (C) Barrie Colts OHL 65 25 50 75 14 24 Jakob Pelletier (LW) Moncton Wildcats QMJHL 65 39 50 89 24 25 Connor McMichael (C) London Knights OHL 67 36 36 72 19 26 Ryan Johnson (D) Sioux Falls Stampede USHL 54 6 19 25 26 27 Anttoni Honka (D) JYP Liiga 16 1 3 4 6 28 Albin Grewe (C/RW) Djurgårdens IF J20 SuperElit 25 13 21 34 102 29 Samuel Poulin (LW) Sherbrooke Phoenix QMJHL 67 29 47 76 46 30 Mikko Kokkonen (D) Jukurit Liiga 56 3 16 19 20 31 Philip Tomasino (C) Niagara IceDogs OHL 67 34 38 72 32 Whats the last number in the chart? Pims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said: What if Jersey takes Hughes with the #1 pick and NYR offers us the #2 pick for Quinn? Who here would take that deal? Nope. Quinn Hughes is special. Imagine how bleak the D would be without him. Not even Byram could fix that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Wow, Zegras at 21 and Broberg at 33? Canucks might get a great pick with the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) To BUF 10th OA dipietro Lockwood To VAN Risto 28thOA - draft Lassi Thomson BUF 2nd 2019 Risto has been over used in BUF, playing more minutes then he can handle, he is a good number 2-3 D man, he is being used as a number 1 shutdown and offensive d man. Edler Tanev Hughes Risto Hutton Stecher each pair could probably handle 20 min per night OJ- Schenn as the 4th pair then sign Duchenne to a lot of money like 10 mill duchenne Petey Boser Pearson Bo Virtanen Roussel Gaudette Leivo Macewan Sutter Beagle Schaller Edited April 17, 2019 by Canucks Curse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Deathrowe said: JD Burke released draft rankings for elite prospects today Surprises start around pick 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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