Odd. Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I kind of disagree. Unless there's a cant miss D prospect like Hughes available, we should be picking a forward with our top pick. I believe there are always gems like defenseman to be had after. Zegras, Turcotte, Newhook, Boldy, Caufield, Krebs, Podkolzin. We should be taking one of these guys with our 10th. I'm leaning towards Zegras, Boldy, and Krebs in that order. I'm going to be hugely disappointed and none of those names are called up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Not sure if this was posted but it's a good listen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Malloy, Shane Malloy? Or Kuzma, it was his tweet. It was Malloy's quote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, flickyoursedin said: https://mobile.twitter.com/Brynas/status/1098942275256795136?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1098942275256795136&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231098942275256795136 posted this link a day or two ago but I’m not sure if you’ve seen this. Soderstrom is far from boring. Personally to me the only top 15 or so players that would be a boring pick would be Broberg. You posted a gif with two highlights. Ive seen his full highlights that is over 30mins and watched it multiple times. Sure he shows a couple of nice moves in that gif but in his highlights I wasn’t seeing him transition the puck up ice from his zone using his skating . Broberg on the other hand is thinking only one thing when he gets the puck back and that’s to get it up the ice in a hurry. I prefer this type of player more than the methodical vanilla game soderstrom brings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Hard to argue with that thinking. Jones and hedman are proving avain how valuable defense is all times of the year. Jones and hedman are a different breed. They are 6’4 and 6’6 dmans that were rated top 2 during their draft years and were classified as franchise dmans. Soderstrom not so much as. He’s also not as offensive as those 2 and not as big. Not to mention his scouting report sounds like someone of Ollie juolevi, so I rather get a forward. Unless Byram drops. what is the point of using 2 of our last 4 drafts top 10 picks on 2 way dmans. Outright horrible idea. Edited April 17, 2019 by MoneypuckOverlord 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 There hasn't been a whole lot of talk about swapping up or down. I'd think that, if Byram gets far enough down, say in the 6-8 range, Benning could package up a prospect like Juolevi and 10th to move up if the participating party is interested in a player around 10. There's also moving down. Guys like Samuel Poulin and Nils Hoglander could be amazing additions. Hoglander would add a little bit of nasty and a whole lot of skill to a Pettersson line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: There hasn't been a whole lot of talk about swapping up or down. I'd think that, if Byram gets far enough down, say in the 6-8 range, Benning could package up a prospect like Juolevi and 10th to move up if the participating party is interested in a player around 10. There's also moving down. Guys like Samuel Poulin and Nils Hoglander could be amazing additions. Hoglander would add a little bit of nasty and a whole lot of skill to a Pettersson line. I don't see alot if play in trading up or down. Edmonton is there to outbid us on any move up. They need the same holes filled only 3 years ago. If Byram fell to 6, I dont see Det passing on him. They didnt take Hughes last year and they need d men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: There hasn't been a whole lot of talk about swapping up or down. I'd think that, if Byram gets far enough down, say in the 6-8 range, Benning could package up a prospect like Juolevi and 10th to move up if the participating party is interested in a player around 10. There's also moving down. Guys like Samuel Poulin and Nils Hoglander could be amazing additions. Hoglander would add a little bit of nasty and a whole lot of skill to a Pettersson line. Nils sounds alot like a tough as nails name whereas Hoglander would look good on the back of Canucks jersey. I'll have to check him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 If the Canucks go Soderstrom at 10 what about Pavel Dorofeyev at 40? Dynamic RHD and a potential sniper at forward with our first two picks:) Personally I want a forward at 10 and a defender at 40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Rather make a "boring pick" that improves the team & fills a need, than going risky/exciting & getting a player that doesn't. Personally I don't think he's boring. He's exciting. He could play in the SHL next year as a top D, then be knocking on the NHL door the year after. He's clearly got great puck skills, smarts & a pretty good shot. I think there's understated offensive upside here. If he's an all-situations top pair defenseman, that's better than any 2nd line winger we could draft. I think JB should gamble for the big payoff and take the player he feels has the highest ceiling with the 1st. He has shown that he has the ability to find players to round out the roster in the other 6 rounds. There will be good wingers and D available later. Shoot for the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 "There's also moving down. Guys like Samuel Poulin and Nils Hoglander could be amazing additions. Hoglander would add a little bit of nasty and a whole lot of skill to a Pettersson line." After hearing you mentioning Hoglander.... Wow! Thus guys looks like a magician from the highlights! Gotta check his size... Smaller 5'9" 185lbs 19 yrs old in December. This kid though.... He is non stop motor, flexible, amazing edge work, great shot, great decision making. Goes to dirty areas, fearless.... But not big. I like him better then Caufield BUT.... I gotta watch and read more. Thanks for sharing Snyps' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, hammertime said: I think JB should gamble for the big payoff and take the player he feels has the highest ceiling with the 1st. He has shown that he has the ability to find players to round out the roster in the other 6 rounds. There will be good wingers and D available later. Shoot for the moon. The only thing I'd say is at 10 I don't think there is going to be that home-run boom/bust type pick like he got with Pettersson & Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 'Scouting Report Aggressive winger with a nonstop motor and the ability to play much bigger than his measurements may indicate. Hoglander has played against adult competition in each of the last two seasons, and his dominance at the summer under-20 Four Nations tournament in August should earn him a berth on Rogle’s opening-night roster. He plays the game at a feverish pace no matter the score or how much time is left, and his compete level is exactly what you want in a skill forward who is summoned to tackle key situations. Hoglander isn’t big, but he is fearless in the corners and immediately bounces back from hefty wallops from older, larger opponents. Without the puck, he’s an aggressive forechecker with an active stick who will finish his checks and force turnovers or rushed passes with regularity. Hoglander is a very good skater with first-step quickness who can accelerate to top speed in an instant. He controls his pace extremely well, and his quick feet and agility allow him to make sharp moves through the neutral zone. Hoglander is a capable stickhandler who weaves his way through a dense network of sticks and bodies, and his cutbacks lure opponents away from coverage before he exploits openings with hard, crisp passes on the tape. He can play the game either inside or out, and he’s a low-maintenance shooter thanks to a quick release and his ability to get shots on net while blanketed. Hoglander has excellent vision, and his decisions with the puck seem to always make sense.' Where could the nucks get this guy... Between 20 and 30? Edited April 17, 2019 by Rodishred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Setyoureyesontheprize said: You posted a gif with two highlights. Ive seen his full highlights that is over 30mins and watched it multiple times. Sure he shows a couple of nice moves in that gif but in his highlights I wasn’t seeing him transition the puck up ice from his zone using his skating . Broberg on the other hand is thinking only one thing when he gets the puck back and that’s to get it up the ice in a hurry. I prefer this type of player more than the methodical vanilla game soderstrom brings. It’s a style in which he can play. He’s good enough with the puck on his stick to attack and beat players. Something Benning seemed to place a lot of value in when talking about Hughes last year. Broberg is the Swiss Army knife in that he has many skills but I don’t see him as great at any one skill. He’s just good at everything. Just a good all around safe playing dman. That sounds like the boring pick to me. I want one of Zegras, Boldy or Krebs but I also really like Soderstrom and would be happy if he’s the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 2:59 PM, Deathrowe said: The guys in this program play against NCAA teams, players that are up to 24 years old. yup. OHL and USNDP is much different. Imagine taking the absolute best players in the CHL, putting them on one team, playing against everyone else. USNDP is the best players USA hockey has to offer from coast to coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Jones and hedman are a different breed. They are 6’4 and 6’6 dmans that were rated top 2 during their draft years and were classified as franchise dmans. Soderstrom not so much as. He’s also not as offensive as those 2 and not as big. Not to mention his scouting report sounds like someone of Ollie juolevi, so I rather get a forward. Unless Byram drops. what is the point of using 2 of our last 4 drafts top 10 picks on 2 way dmans. Outright horrible idea. Many very good defensman, and even a handful of franchise defensman were chosen at 10 or later. Any player that we take will have some holes in his game. I think it would be wise to choose to fill a position of weakness (rd) if deciding between multiple players when our number is called. Picking a forward is no less risk than picking a defensman here You mention olli I'll mention virtanen. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Olli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I really wonder if it'd be possible to move back a little in the first round. Maybe even take on some cap for a year and get some assets in return. If we could get a second 2nd round pick, and maybe another 3rd, we could really restock our cupboards with some D prospects worth cheering for. It'll depend on who's available at the 10th pick, but Heinola, Soderstrom and Broberg could all be nice pickups at around 12/13/14/15. And then gaining those extra assets... it's a gamble, but what if eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Many very good defensman, and even a handful of franchise defensman were chosen at 10 or later. Any player that we take will have some holes in his game. I think it would be wise to choose to fill a position of weakness (rd) if deciding between multiple players when our number is called. Picking a forward is no less risk than picking a defensman here You mention olli I'll mention virtanen. Very very weak arguement on your side. (First off was not a fan of the jake or Olli selections). No bloody $&!# great dmans were picked beyond 10, I can the same great forwards were drafted at or later. The given info right now is that he’s not top pairing guy, he’s also top pp unit it. He’s not an offensive dynamo, he’s also not a shut down specialist. He’s not the fastest guy and he does not even have size. Is he even tough ? Nope. so we are using our high pick on 2nd pairing material type of player. Hugh pass. you bring up jake I bring up brock. Edited April 17, 2019 by MoneypuckOverlord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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