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[Waivers] September 30th - 39 players (Baertschi, Goldobin, Biega)


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6 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Also nice that we can fill out two legit PP's with solid players.

 

#no room for Baer

Not going to bite on that 2nd part :P but it is nice to have a good looking first unit and a respectable 2nd unit.

 

We'll see how it plays out.

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4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The owner already paid, back in July, Loui 4 million for this year.  Our owner caved to Loui’s hand.  

That makes no sense alf. The owner has to pay loui regardless of where he plays or even if he doesnt play at all.(barring retirement which wont happen) If that was the case the owner would have pushed to waive loui instead in the hopes of making him retire and not have to pay him.

 

Think your thoughts out before typing them Mr Alf. Your post count screams quantity over quality.

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Though I understand the concern in waiving Baertschi, I see it as a win/win.

 

If he's claimed, we free up $3M+ in cap space. It'll be sad to see him go, and sure, you can argue "asset management," but having the cap space gives the team flexibility moving forward.

 

If he goes unclaimed, we would have amazing forward call-up depth once the inevitable injuries begin to accumulate. Ferland gets a concussion, Pearson breaks a rip, Sutter gets a hernia (again) and BAM he's back in the top 6 like nothing ever happened. 

 

Also, for those mad that Loui and Schaller are still around... Just wait until Roussel is activiated. Just sayin...

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7 minutes ago, grandmaster said:

Horvat had 61 points last year, second most on the team and slightly less than Petey.

This doesn't automatically mean he should be on our 1st unit, though.

 

It's more about fit and play-style. He never showed himself to be a scoring or passing threat from the bottom corner spot on the PP and given he's a LH shot and not as skilled as EP, that's really the only spot for him on the 1st unit.

 

Makes more sense to see what he can do in front of the net or even as the main guy on the half boards on another unit,

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6 minutes ago, Beastmode33 said:

but also when your top 6 gets injured you don't have to fill in the gaps with 4th line defensive plugs.

We're still going to have Leivo, Roussel, Virtanen and Gaudette to move up to the top 6 as well as likely Goldy and whoever else might impress in Utica. 

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1 minute ago, EP-40 said:

That makes no sense alf. The owner has to pay loui regardless of where he plays or even if he doesnt play at all.(barring retirement which wont happen) If that was the case the owner would have pushed to waive loui instead in the hopes of making him retire and not have to pay him.

 

Think your thoughts out before typing them Mr Alf. Your post count screams quantity over quality.

Aquilini got called, and folded.  There were threats to send Loui to Utica and Loui said he won’t retire.  Our owner lost this hand.  This hurts our team.  

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6 minutes ago, Screw said:

1. SB gets claimed and the canucks free themselves of a 3mill cap hit for a player on the bubble.

 

                         or

 

2.  SB clears waivers and remains an asset.  

 

How is either scenario bad for this team?

...which also solves the Roussel situation, a second bird with the same stone.

 

I think we might be forgetting how frustrating it's been having the likes of Tanev, Edler, Sutter, and Baertschi constantly injured and only playing half seasons.  The team might look good on paper, but if you're running with AHL replacements because they can't stay healthy, you aren't getting anywhere.

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Just now, aGENT said:

Only because you still don't grasp what he was doing :lol:

 

Outright failure in the long run would have the team floundering and him being fired. Are you going to still going to keep complaining how it 'failed' if we win a cup in three years?:lol:

If you say so. All I know is that Gillis wanted to rebuild when he was still GM. Tried to trade Kesler at deadline, even had an agreement in place with Bob Murray before ownership nixed that deal. Murray was later quoted in the summer as saying that he had offered more at the deadline. Instead of aiming for the Ducks prospect pool which was chalk full of talent (Etem, Rakell, Gibson, Anderson, Theodore, Vatanen, 10, 24, etc), in true non-rebuilding fashion we aimed for Bonino, Sbisa and the 24th pick. Ironically I think the Ducks win a Cup had they kept Bonino as they would have had the clear edge over Chicago in center depth

 

Filling in the age gap was a farce created to explain why we were senselessly trading away valuable futures for anyone who could remotely help us win some games in the short term. In efforts to pump the last drops of what was left in the Sedin well, we have hurt our asset base in the long run. 

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2 minutes ago, HKSR said:

I'd much rather have had:

 

Ferland-Pettersson-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Miller

Baertschi-Sutter-Gaudette

Motte-Beagle-Virtanen

And no ones lines have Loui.  Why Loui over Baer if Loui isn’t going to play?  Smells of the owner getting involved.  Green is told he has to keep Loui, so Green will not play him.  I read tension here. 

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Aquilini got called, and folded.  There were threats to send Loui to Utica and Loui said he won’t retire.  Our owner lost this hand.  This hurts our team.  

wot?

 

Folded what? lost what hand? There was no negotiating, the canucks management have full autonomy over sending loui or bear wherever they want. They could have send loui down and loaned him to the &^@#ing new chinese league for all they cared lol

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1 minute ago, Toews said:

If you say so. All I know is that Gillis wanted to rebuild when he was still GM. Tried to trade Kesler at deadline, even had an agreement in place with Bob Murray before ownership nixed that deal. Murray was later quoted in the summer as saying that he had offered more at the deadline. Instead of aiming for the Ducks prospect pool which was chalk full of talent (Etem, Rakell, Gibson, Anderson, Theodore, Vatanen, 10, 24, etc), in true non-rebuilding fashion we aimed for Bonino, Sbisa and the 24th pick. Ironically I think the Ducks win a Cup had they kept Bonino as they would have had the clear edge over Chicago in center depth

 

Filling in the age gap was a farce created to explain why we were senselessly trading away valuable futures for anyone who could remotely help us win some games in the short term. In efforts to pump the last drops of what was left in the Sedin well, we have hurt our asset base in the long run. 

Nope.

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1 minute ago, Toews said:

If you say so. All I know is that Gillis wanted to rebuild when he was still GM. Tried to trade Kesler at deadline, even had an agreement in place with Bob Murray before ownership nixed that deal. Murray was later quoted in the summer as saying that he had offered more at the deadline. Instead of aiming for the Ducks prospect pool which was chalk full of talent (Etem, Rakell, Gibson, Anderson, Theodore, Vatanen, 10, 24, etc), in true non-rebuilding fashion we aimed for Bonino, Sbisa and the 24th pick. Ironically I think the Ducks win a Cup had they kept Bonino as they would have had the clear edge over Chicago in center depth

 

Filling in the age gap was a farce created to explain why we were senselessly trading away valuable futures for anyone who could remotely help us win some games in the short term. In efforts to pump the last drops of what was left in the Sedin well, we have hurt our asset base in the long run. 

Makes sense but honestly if you’re mentioning GIllis at this point you’re living in the past.

 

its hard to know what the mentality was at the time when we were doubling down on the Sedins.  It’s reasonable to suggest they were heavily involved in the decision making feeling they could still bring it.?.?.?

 

either way JB has rectified mistakes and brought this team to the cusp of the post season (this year). Meanwhile the stadium has had respectable crowds and Edmonton is still Oilering.

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4 minutes ago, CaptKirk888 said:

Rasmus Andersson

who has had a whopping 2 goals in 90 NHL games 

Who also played a solid full season on a top team as a 22 year-old D-man.

 

Only 2 goals though, as a young D-man playing in his first year in the NHL. Goals. So he sucks.

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