JM_ Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, rekker said: Not sure on this. What is Ekblad's cap hit? Is he over his concussion issues? Florida would have to take LE back in the trade to make it work which may be ok considering they are probably near broke. why? he'd be the replacement for Tanev + Stech. Thats pretty much what their combined deals would be with Ekblads cap at 7.5. We can add in Juolevi's ELC by sending Loui to Utica. Edited September 19, 2020 by Robert Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Ekblad would command a monstrous price, but I do like him. The price definitely scares me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, EP40. said: I hear ya but disagree. Look at how Jones propelled CBJ to the next level. Ekblad would be that all around top dman. I feel our team has a much bigger glaring need on the backend and are surplus organizationally upfront. So it’s a very sensible sacrifice to make to improve overall team balance. Completely agree, Brock is a piece that has to go the other way to bring us that top D man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 50 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Ekblad has had injuries but is someone I've always liked when I've seen play. Dare to dream. Played all 82 games in the 2 seasons prior to this one. Not sure if he missed any for Florida this season. With that said Sutter was healthy as a horse prior to coming here. I wanted Ekblad very bad at the 2014 draft, if Benning can manage it I will forget every decision he made that I didn't care for. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Hes missed 20 games in the last 6 seasons... ekblad makes too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 cernac could grow with the team and hughes. a top 4 d man fot TB he could be a top pairing guy with huggy for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I get the comments and agree, would love to have Ekblad but it we will probably need to beat some great offers. Right side dmen like this don't come up for auction often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted September 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) I think Friedman is leaking wadr. And a bit ignorant here. This team won't be 'overhauling' it's blueline - that is absurd - and dramatic. It might make a change - possibly two - but overhaul is laughable. Further: it's funy that he'd talk about 'pressuring' Vegas and overlook the forward group - where a great deal of the 'pressure' he appears to be talking about - originates. The Canucks most significant challenge vs Vegas had far more to do with limping centers than it did it's blueline. Miller on the wing. Sutter on the wing. One key faceoff - league leader - on the wing. Another veteran shutdown guy - on the wing - in favour of a rookie and sophomore. Gaudette in at center - trying to shelter him in the playoffs. And to make matters worse - Toffoli was limping so badly he was a liability, and Pearson dropped off the production board - so they had literally one effective line vs Vegas - and that was the Beagle Motte combination, who were outstanding under the circumstances. EP's line was very good, but the reality was that both Miller and Boeser were gutting it out. Against St Louis they had the entire top 6 rolling - and the bottom six in turn dominated St Louis'. Motte, Beagle, Sutter put a stamp on those critical closing games - the top 6 looked otherworldly at times, with an extremely different Horvat line than you saw in the Vegas series.... Before Friedman purports to 'overhaul' anything - he ought to get a grasp on what actually happened. The blueline was fine - it was unusually healthy with the exception of Myers - and when the factors I mention above were not - or less - present - in the St Louis series - the team knocked off the defending champions. Those things compounded however (the overlapping shallowing effect of the forward group at key positions) - the inability to create the pressure, forecheck - and sustain ozone time - are not separable - and can't be put on the blueline. Moreover - you take a limping group and make them play 5 games in 7 nights - after having gone deeper in the previous series (while Vegas waited), facing a relatively healthy contender - and how much pressure are you expecting out of them in game 7. Did they seek to protect the center of the ice, the hard areas, prevent second scoring chances - of course they did - they were in concession mode - and moving a rookie goaltender into elimination games of a playoff series - not because their defense needed overhauling. Dallas was more comfortable 'pressing' Vegas....because they had a healthier, heavier forward group as well. But the bottom line here - this entire prescription screams of desperate goalpost chasing - something this team - at this stage -absolutely does not have to do. I think this report - while 'interesting' (condescending word somewhat intended) - is borderline ignorance of the team - or trolling. What I do value - is the realization that players like Cernak might be opportune targets this offseason - no mystery around here - some of us have been targetting Cernak forever (some of us drafted him in fantasy leagues....) But the "overhaul" drama is typical Friedman imo - he likes to mix a bit of truth, in with a bit of drama, and a bit of leaky Torontroll, seeking attention. Juice should call him out on this lol. Further - if it's overhauls he's focused on, his own backyard is where the overhaul is going to happen - and if it doesn''t - it's long overdue for the cheerleader Toronto media to do it's job. Spamaplan / Dubas' #proper-rebuild - are where the "overhaul" needs to happen. Edited September 19, 2020 by oldnews 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bree2 said: ekblad makes too much Not a terrible cap hit for a stud RHD, Hughes will probabaly be more and he's not 6'4" 215lbs. Loose Benn, Stetcher and Tanev and add OJ on a ELC and I believe we save money with Ekblad Edited September 19, 2020 by Sbriggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, EP40. said: How would getting Ekblad be a quick fix if he’s the same age as Boeser? It's not so much Boeser as the +s. I've been seeing. Podkolzin, 2021 1st and 2nd and list of anything young that's shown promise and would have to be replaced to quick fix RHD. If people were just talking say Boeser for Ekblad right across that would be an even trade and my point is that's the kind of thing the Canucks can afford to wait for because at one time we were expecting the rebuild to go into 2021 when all the dead weight is gone, the stars are signed, we know what we've got, what we can get and what's expendable. Let's say Podkolzin is an immediate star and Boeser is 15 points better as he approaches his ceiling would that be worth waiting for before you start wanting to make a gift of both of them and throwing in half the existing youth and prospects? Edited September 19, 2020 by John_Guest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, smithers joe said: cernac could grow with the team and hughes. a top 4 d man fot TB he could be a top pairing guy with huggy for years to come. Lol they were born like 14 months apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, John_Guest said: It's not so much Boeser as the +s. I've been seeing. Podkolzin, 2021 1st and 2nd and list of anything young that's shown promise and would have to be replaced to quick fix RHD. If people were just talking say Boeser for Ekblad right across that would be an even trade and my point is that's the kind of thing the Canucks can afford to wait for because at one time we were expecting the rebuild to go into 2021 when all the dead weight is gone, the stars are signed, we know what we've got, what we can get and what's expendable. Let's say Podkolzin is an immediate star and Boeser in 15 points better as he approaches his ceiling would that be worth waiting for before you start wanting to make a gift of both of them and throwing in half the existing youth and prospects? No way Podz is going any where. If they have to add with Brock it may be a draft pick and maybe a prospect not named Podz, we have enough good prospects to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) I'd been feeling like it's been a little too long since Vancouver and Florida made a trade Edited September 19, 2020 by Teemu Selänne 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Boeser for Ekblad I wouldn't even be mad. Might even get a forward back out of it with some potential offensive upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Jimmy, I promise I'll never mention Matt Dumba's name again if you acquire Aaron Ekblad summer 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP40. Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, John_Guest said: It's not so much Boeser as the +s. I've been seeing. Podkolzin, 2021 1st and 2nd and list of anything young that's shown promise and would have to be replaced to quick fix RHD. If people were just talking say Boeser for Ekblad right across that would be an even trade and my point is that's the kind of thing the Canucks can afford to wait for because at one time we were expecting the rebuild to go into 2021 when all the dead weight is gone, the stars are signed, we know what we've got, what we can get and what's expendable. Let's say Podkolzin is an immediate star and Boeser is 15 points better as he approaches his ceiling would that be worth waiting for before you start wanting to make a gift of both of them and throwing in half the existing youth and prospects? I don’t think anyone’s saying or has said Podkolzin would be included as a + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: Boeser for Ekblad I wouldn't even be mad. Might even get a forward back out of it with some potential offensive upside. I think it would be Brock+ to land Ekblad not the other way 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, EP40. said: I don’t think anyone’s saying or has said Podkolzin would be included as a + Excellent point, Podz isn't going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Quote Elliotte Friedman reported in his 31 Thoughts column that new Panthers GM Bill Zito will “explore moving one of the big tickets on his blue line to create flexibility.” This makes sense given that four players — Aaron Ekblad, Keith Yandle, Anton Stralman and Mike Matheson — combine to earn nearly $25-million on the backend. Florida’s problem is that Yandle, Stralman and Matheson are all virtually unmoveable considering each’s career trajectory relative to their contracts. Does this mean that Ekblad and his $7.5 million cap hit could be available for the right price? Vancouver would be wise to inquire if the Panthers are willing to listen to offers for the 24-year-old. He’d probably cost an arm and a leg to acquire, but it’s nearly impossible to acquire a young, top-pairing right-handed defenceman with term outside of the draft. The former first overall pick has been up-and-down with Florida and hasn’t fully lived up to expectations, but he found his stride this year. Ekblad is an all-situations workhorse with size, skating and two-way ability. He’s someone you can trust to take on the toughest defensive assignments and yet he’s also delivered 35-41 points in five of his six NHL seasons. Ekblad was an elite play-driver this season with whom the Panthers carried a vastly positive 5-on-5 goal differential (69 goals for, 53 against). I’m a firm believer that the Canucks should keep Brock Boeser this offseason, that trading him would be a mistake, but if a rare opportunity to acquire a player of Ekblad’s calibre opens up, this would be the one exception where dangling Boeser would make sense. I’m not sure how attractive a return centred around Boeser would be for Florida, but they would save $1.62 million annually and with Evgeni Dadonov and Mike Hoffman both expected to depart the team in free agency, their scoring depth looks thin. - Harman Dayal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, EP40. said: I don’t think anyone’s saying or has said Podkolzin would be included as a + I'm thinking more the "trade Boeser' insanity in general. Check out the proposals in the Proposal forum, here, for example. Try the Boeser for Jack Eichel one, for example, if you think nobody would suggest adding Podkolzin. Hypebole here maybe, but there's a point to be made. Edited September 19, 2020 by John_Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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