Dats hockey Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: Any coach will prefer players who work hard on and off the ice, are smart, skilled, and competitive. If Johnson is those things, then Green (and any coach) will play the guy lots. Does Johnson have those qualities? His defense is a big need improvement but smart skill maybe not the fastest. Try’s to do a little to much when needing to be simple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Johnson is a Goldobin equivalent Green would play Roussel over him Oh God, definitely don't want a guy who refuses to play the game without the puck. Goldy was horrid unless the puck was on his stick. And even then he was only just okay at that. That's exactly why the Avs got destroyed by the Knights. The Avs top guys don't play very well without the puck. Maybe a guy like McTavish would be a better pick than Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 In my views of Johnson I would say there are few similarities to Goldy. My concerns in drafting him would be - can he pull a complete game together, can he play as part of a system. Is he going to get caught too much in transition. Can he put on enough weight to compete with the big heavy teams in the playoffs. I also think Mason Mctavish would be a great pickup for us . . . However if you want to make loose comparisons you could very much say he will be Brendan Gaunce 2.0. I think we already a pretty lightweight team which showed in last years playoffs - so maybe MM makes more sense for us, where as KJ will make more sense to a team above us that needs an injection of skill and can take a hit on size and strength due to the supporting cast ( Col, LA, SJ etc) Given everything i'm fairly sure that it will come down to one of these two players that falls to us or Benning will reach a bit further and grab a Lucius, Lambos, Lysell or someone else who's name begins with L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nucker 67 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Dats hockey said: Just curious how you guys think about Kent Johnson and how he would mesh with Green. I see this as not a fit 2 conflicting styles of player and coaching Comes down to trust with Green. Look how long it;s taking him to trust Juolevi. I'm not sure Green would trust Johnson (his high risk pays and defensive part of the game), and would probably want him in Utica/Abbotsford for the next few years to learn, like Jake. uggh Edited June 16, 2021 by NUCKER67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Kent Johnson - the next Nikolay Goldobin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I just want him to see him play against Tkachuk in Calgary for the next 18 years. Old school hockey stud vs old school hockey weenie 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv-the-wet-bandit Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Johnson is a Goldobin equivalent Green would play Roussel over him Johnson is nothing close to goldobin. Johnson plays in all 3 zones and Johnson is also in another league offensively and is a better skater then Goldobin was. That’s an awful comparison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv-the-wet-bandit Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: If all other factors are equal, always draft the most skill. Sure seems like Johnson has elite skill. He has Petey type skill and plays a similar game to Peteys in terms of effort in all zones. Obviously he’s not Petey but just in terms of comparable game type 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Eddie said: In my views of Johnson I would say there are few similarities to Goldy. My concerns in drafting him would be - can he pull a complete game together, can he play as part of a system. Is he going to get caught too much in transition. Can he put on enough weight to compete with the big heavy teams in the playoffs. I also think Mason Mctavish would be a great pickup for us . . . However if you want to make loose comparisons you could very much say he will be Brendan Gaunce 2.0. I think we already a pretty lightweight team which showed in last years playoffs - so maybe MM makes more sense for us, where as KJ will make more sense to a team above us that needs an injection of skill and can take a hit on size and strength due to the supporting cast ( Col, LA, SJ etc) Given everything i'm fairly sure that it will come down to one of these two players that falls to us or Benning will reach a bit further and grab a Lucius, Lambos, Lysell or someone else who's name begins with L The only miss in the first round after Benning overhauled the scouting department is OJ, which was largely health related. If he has someone off the board he's high on, I trust him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: This guy would be an absolute mother f***** to play against. Looks great in blue and green. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said: He has Petey type skill and plays a similar game to Peteys in terms of effort in all zones. Obviously he’s not Petey but just in terms of comparable game type yeah, but can he juggle on a unicycle like Petey and Hogz? Tons of skill, but I think Johnson will drive coaches nuts with his risky plays (and fails) and he may find it difficult to be an NHL regular. Does he have exceptional hockey IQ? If he does, then maybe it works out for him one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marv-the-wet-bandit Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: yeah, but can he juggle on a unicycle like Petey and Hogz? Tons of skill, but I think Johnson will drive coaches nuts with his risky plays (and fails) and he may find it difficult to be an NHL regular. Does he have exceptional hockey IQ? If he does, then maybe it works out for him one day. He has high IQ, he slows and speeds up and uses a lot of deception in the Ozone to create lanes for himself and others. I think the biggest thing with him is getting stronger and I agree with your risky play assessment, there’s a lot he can get away with in college that he won’t be able to in the NHL, that’s where coaching comes into play. If he’s not bullheaded, and Mel Pearson (Michigan head coach) loves the kid and raves about his learnability, then he will be fine. There’s no reason to assume he’ll be difficult to coach, if anything it seems like the complete opposite. Every prospect comes with things they need to learn or improve upon, he’s no different but it’s rare you get guys with a skill level like his that already play defense and understand what they’re supposed to do in that zone Edited June 16, 2021 by Marv-the-wet-bandit 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I won't claim to be an expert or know all about Johnson, I just have my own opinions. My first impression of Johnson is: super skilled, high risk/high reward, will take time to develop properly Do the Canucks want to develop their #9 overall player for the next 2-3 years, like Jake and Olli? (and even then, will Green trust him enough?) Or do they want a McTavish or Sillinger, to add to their group when they compete for playoffs in a couple of years? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Oh God, definitely don't want a guy who refuses to play the game without the puck. Goldy was horrid unless the puck was on his stick. And even then he was only just okay at that. That's exactly why the Avs got destroyed by the Knights. The Avs top guys don't play very well without the puck. Maybe a guy like McTavish would be a better pick than Johnson? I recommend watching a highlight reel of the kid, he’s kinda nasty if he get faster maybe a Barzal comparable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I won't claim to be an expert or know all about Johnson, I just have my own opinions. My first impression of Johnson is: super skilled, high risk/high reward, will take time to develop properly Do the Canucks want to develop their #9 overall player for the next 2-3 years, like Jake and Olli? (and even then, will Green trust him enough?) Or do they want a McTavish or Sillinger, to add to their group when they compete for playoffs in a couple of years? What league is it that Sillinger did so well in this past year? USHL? Is that a good league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv-the-wet-bandit Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I won't claim to be an expert or know all about Johnson, I just have my own opinions. My first impression of Johnson is: super skilled, high risk/high reward, will take time to develop properly Do the Canucks want to develop their #9 overall player for the next 2-3 years, like Jake and Olli? (and even then, will Green trust him enough?) Or do they want a McTavish or Sillinger, to add to their group when they compete for playoffs in a couple of years? I’d be just as happy with McTavish as I would Johnson, very different but I love what each brings. There’s a chance one or both are gone before we pick anyway. Sillinger isn’t a guy I’m very high on but Lucius is if those other guys aren’t available to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Kent Johnson - the next Nikolay Goldobin? There are similarities. But the kid is so raw and so good. His skill set is very attractive. Could see a team snag him top 5 like Seattle or New Jersey 2 teams that have wiggle room to let him grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: What league is it that Sillinger did so well in this past year? USHL? Is that a good league? Bit of a step down from WHL or OHL, but not drastically. Pretty close to equal to the Q. There's likely better young talent in USHL than the Q, but they lose their top 18 and 19 year olds to NCAA, so Q is overall still better. I would rank the top 5 junior leagues: 1. MHL 2. OHL 3. WHL 4. QMJHL 5. USHL 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said: I’d be just as happy with McTavish as I would Johnson, very different but I love what each brings. There’s a chance one or both are gone before we pick anyway. Sillinger isn’t a guy I’m very high on but Lucius is if those other guys aren’t available to us Lucius is a kid I haven't seen mentioned a lot here, but I think there's a pretty legit chance he is the Canucks' guy. We'll see where he ends up on McKenzie's final list, but he was 9 at mid-season. And Canucks have had huge success out of USHL/NTDP in Benning's time there: Thatcher Demko, Brock Boeser, Quinn Hughes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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