Gurn Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said: scientific peer review not sure it has reached "peer review" stage, seems more like Mr. Peacock saying- watch out for this contamination problem. Hope he is right, and he "likely" is. More to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, gurn said: ^ I think those losers are going to lose again. Hope the court bills them for the costs. Pretty nervy to sue a 4 outlet newspaper in B.C. for an opinion piece about unnamed nurses being disciplined in Ontario. The Comox outlet names all three and has their photos in the article. I still think this lawsuit is toast though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, gurn said: not sure it has reached "peer review" stage, seems more like Mr. Peacock saying- watch out for this contamination problem. Hope he is right, and he "likely" is. More to follow. I didn't realize this wasn't over, but I'm no expert in biology either. The explanation for contamination is reasonable though. I'll check with some peers and see what they think. Indeed, more to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boudrias Posted January 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 9:49 AM, D.B Cooper said: Yes I understand what it all means. I still don’t support the government having authority over my blood. I took the shots because I believe in science and think it’s the right thing to do. But that’s also my opinion. Personally I wouldn’t take Trudeau’s advice on what socks I should wear. (I wouldn’t trust any political party for that matter) and I understand why people don’t want it. My body my choice. sure you might feel different, but that’s your own opinion. How much of the current Covid situation is more a commentary on the state of Canadian health care? If restrictions and vaccinations are more in defence of treatment capabilities. Canada has the lowest bed count of the OECD. The problem in healthcare predated Covid. Covid simply accentuates the deficiencies. Why aren’t the deaths caused by inadequate treatment or no treatment of people during Covid added into the equation? There has been almost zero accountability in this whole experience. Edited January 10, 2022 by Boudrias 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Boudrias said: How much of the current Covid situation is more a commentary on the state of Canadian health care? If restrictions and vaccinations are more in defence of treatment capabilities. Canada has the lowest bed count of the OECD. The problem in healthcare predated Covid. Covid simply accentuates the deficiencies. Why aren’t the deaths caused by inadequate treatment or no treatment of people during Covid added into the equation? There has been almost zero accountability in this whole experience. Whoa. Watch it there. If you call out the government for their poor planning, reaction, efforts, accountability….. people are going to assume you are an antivaxer. Lol. You are bang on with this post, but people can’t take Bonny and Horgan’s underwear off of their faces long enough to see they have fumbled this every step of the way and continue to do so. Zero effort trying to address the real issue. Just straight to lock them down and close it all up. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatzkek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Today it seems like TV is priming us for twice a year vaccinations going forward. Speaking like it's a done deal. So this will be a requirement to function in our society going forward. My unvaccinated son, who just recovered, was just refused entry into a boiler class because he wasn't double vaccinated, so he will have to comply if he wants a job. He will because he isn't dogmatic one way or the other, he just thought he didn't need it so he wasn't going to get it. Now he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Whoa. Watch it there. If you call out the government for their poor planning, reaction, efforts, accountability….. people are going to assume you are an antivaxer. Lol. You are bang on with this post, but people can’t take Bonny and Horgan’s underwear off of their faces long enough to see they have fumbled this every step of the way and continue to do so. Zero effort trying to address the real issue. Just straight to lock them down and close it all up. Whoa, who wouldn't want Bonnie's underwear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gatzkek said: Today it seems like TV is priming us for twice a year vaccinations going forward. Speaking like it's a done deal. So this will be a requirement to function in our society going forward. My unvaccinated son, who just recovered, was just refused entry into a boiler class because he wasn't double vaccinated, so he will have to comply if he wants a job. He will because he isn't dogmatic one way or the other, he just thought he didn't need it so he wasn't going to get it. Now he does. Sounds like the restriction is having a positive effect then. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Whoa, who wouldn't want Bonnie's underwear. Need a new mask I see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatzkek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Sounds like the restriction is having a positive effect then. I wasn't worried about him at all after his recovery, so there's no upside now, just additional risk. Edited January 10, 2022 by Gatzkek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Gatzkek said: I wasn't worried about him at all after his recovery, so there's no upside for him now other than taking on additional risk. The additional risk of not being an antivax idiot? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatzkek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: The additional risk of not being an antivax idiot? You think there's no risk in taking the vaccine? No one thinks that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted January 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gatzkek said: You think there's no risk in taking the vaccine? No one thinks that. I think there's significantly more risk in not taking it and that no one with a functioning brain thinks otherwise. Edited January 10, 2022 by King Heffy 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatzkek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I think there's significantly more risk in not taking it and that no one with a functioning brain thinks otherwise. Oh you don't think natural immunity tops the vaccination. Taking a vaccination now is useless for him, just taking on more risk to please politicians. Edited January 10, 2022 by Gatzkek 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, D.B Cooper said: Whoa. Watch it there. If you call out the government for their poor planning, reaction, efforts, accountability….. people are going to assume you are an antivaxer. Lol. You are bang on with this post, but people can’t take Bonny and Horgan’s underwear off of their faces long enough to see they have fumbled this every step of the way and continue to do so. Zero effort trying to address the real issue. Just straight to lock them down and close it all up. I remember before the pandemic all the Conservative folks complaining that we don't fund health care in Canada enough. I guess they were right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gatzkek said: Oh you don't think natural immunity tops the vaccination. Taking a vaccination now is useless for him, just taking on more risk to please politicians. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782139 But I'm sure you know better than those who conducted this study. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gawdzukes Posted January 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 23 hours ago, johngould21 said: This virus is a fast moving object, that is mutating as it goes. Thankfully we've got very good "dopes" in charge trying to find a way out of this. But, people that don't want a free, tested vaccine are hindering this process. The World community has already spent BILLIONS on the cure, the care, and the medical staff and scientists are paying a much larger price than you or I are, because we can't go to a gym. The Province says that over 70% of the patients are the unvaccinated, people in ICU has again spiked, so yes, as long as you keep trying to answer with your dribs and drabs of your talking points I'm going to respond. People are so dumb it's sickening. So many people out there haven't given a crap about anything in the past. They aren't in politics, they haven't been involved in decision making, the aren't in medicine and don't make any and have never made decisions regarding public health but yet now they figure they should be the ones making such decisions as to what should be open and what steps that should be taken. Sorry it doesn't work that way. We don't suddenly turn over control to some random uneducated schmucks just because they have an opinion and an internet connection. These tools actually think they have the right to this or something. Sorry they don't. Honestly I can't believe the temerity of of these people. People should just shut up with their uneducated, and stupid personal beliefs on this matter. That would be like me deciding I want run NASA or be GM of he Canucks. I'm getting sick of people and what their precious little hearts think we should do. All they should do is just shut up and let the appropriate people do their jobs. Someone else has actually done all the hard work and come up with this never before attempted world wide plan, and accomplished simply amazing things and then you have these morons come along and criticize. Absolute garbage I can't stand these morons anymore. 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mj2345 Posted January 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just got my booster at the clinic, was very busy there but the line moved fast 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatzkek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, King Heffy said: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782139 But I'm sure you know better than those who conducted this study. Interesting that you found a study to presumably back up that contention. I'm won't scrutinize it too close because that data is moot now with omicron. So you actually think a vaccine is stronger than natural immunity. Ok, that's surprising. Maybe I'll find something that says otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Gatzkek said: Interesting that you found a study to presumably back up that contention. I'm won't scrutinize it too close because that data is moot now with omicron. So you actually think a vaccine is stronger than natural immunity. Ok, that's surprising. Maybe I'll find something that says otherwise. If you read the study, it says vaccination after infection provides a stronger immune response than infection alone. Got any credible research that suggests otherwise? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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