JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ilunga said: I have been reading a and listening to a lot information in regards to immunity- from catching Covid- vaccinations and both. This article contains some good info including some from a longitudinal study out of the UK https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-omicron-upended-what-we-thought-we-knew-about-natural-immunity/ I think the last guy said it best, especially the bolded, but this guy I know on Facebook says different. And what does Moore think? He was just ready to take a pause from speculation and get some data before anyone starts making decisions for themselves or for society. “I’m fed up with winging answers to reporters like yourself, because I don’t know the answer,” he said. “None of us know for sure.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Provincial government has given up pretending the virus can be controlled. We were going to get to this point, just a matter of when. After today's announcement, the vaxpass is just a sticking point of vindictiveness. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Slegr said: We knew they would go up. Everyone is catching this thing, so of course they’ll go up. But proportionately it’s a very small amount of people. It seems far less severe than delta. That’s a relief for sure. Again, let's not forget that delta isn't gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Jack Fig said: Provincial government has given up pretending the virus can be controlled. We were going to get to this point, just a matter of when. After today's announcement, the vaxpass is just a sticking point of vindictiveness. Delta is still out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Fig said: Provincial government has given up pretending the virus can be controlled. We were going to get to this point, just a matter of when. After today's announcement, the vaxpass is just a sticking point of vindictiveness. No point in trying to protect the antivaxxers anymore. They will get Covid. Many will get very ill, and some will die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, stawns said: Delta is still out there. 5% of all cases of thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: I think the last guy said it best, especially the bolded, but this guy I know on Facebook says different. And what does Moore think? He was just ready to take a pause from speculation and get some data before anyone starts making decisions for themselves or for society. “I’m fed up with winging answers to reporters like yourself, because I don’t know the answer,” he said. “None of us know for sure.” I was almost going to quote or reference the last paragraph of the article however there is some good information in the article and I didn't want to dissuade people from reading the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Alflives said: No point in trying to protect the antivaxxers anymore. They will get Covid. Many will get very ill, and some will die. The vast majority will be just fine. But I agree that people have had every opportunity to make their decision. Time to live again. Edited January 22, 2022 by Jack Fig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: 5% of all cases of thereabouts. Which would put it at about 500 cases per day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: The vast majority will be just fine. But I agree that people have had every opportunity to make their decision. Time to live again. I know you know this, but we don't get to decide when it's time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, stawns said: Which would put it at about 500 cases per day Sure. People are getting the crap kicked out of them .... back at work and fine 3 days later. Not really much different from a bad flu strain. Overall health and immune systems are key, as they always are. Yes ... have to be concerned about the hospital capabilities. That's the real concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, stawns said: I know you know this, but we don't get to decide when it's time. Meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: The vast majority will be just fine. But I agree that people have had every opportunity to make their decision. Time to live again. Us vaccinated have been living. It’s the antivaxxers who have been dying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: Meaning? Meaning we can say "it's time" all we want, but we're at the mercy of the virus. Ignoring science, shrugging off restrictions, ignoring health orders before it's under control again is just got to drag is down deeper and extend the suffering. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: Sure. People are getting the crap kicked out of them .... back at work and fine 3 days later. Not really much different from a bad flu strain. Overall health and immune systems are key, as they always are. Yes ... have to be concerned about the hospital capabilities. That's the real concern. Vaccines (of which we have had many, especially when young) contribute greatly to overall health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, stawns said: Meaning we can say "it's time" all we want, but we're at the mercy of the virus. Ignoring science, shrugging off restrictions, ignoring health orders before it's under control again is just got to drag is down deeper and extend the suffering. It's been two years. How do you define "under control?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: It's been two years. How do you define "under control?" Stable over an extended period of time. I certainly wouldnt consider 8-10000 cases per day under control Edited January 22, 2022 by stawns 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, stawns said: Stable over an extended period of time. I certainly would consider 8-10000 cases per day under control Okay, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Patients who don’t have COVID-19 could end up in the same hospital rooms as patients who do have the virus, B.C. health officials said Friday. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-hospitals-can-put-covid-positive-and-negative-patients-in-same-rooms-top-doctor-1.5750555 This is truly horrifying Multi patient rooms are not set up for the ventilation needed to protect someone It really seems like the plan is to max infect people quickly to bring an end to this Completely reckless and irresponsible Imagine your loved one being forced exposed to covid to gamble they will be ok while they battle what got them there as well I would refuse and take my loved one to an American hospital and pay before allowing this for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Warhippy said: If this is the case then why the f*** even bother with the vaxx passport? Travel advisories etc? I've a friend stuck in Mexico because she needs to wait x amount of time and have a clear test to come home. After today why? The vaccine passport was never instituted for our safety. It was done to take away certain privileges from people in order to coerce them to get vaccinated to increase vaccination rates. With today's announcement more than likely the vaccine passport won't even be renewed on January 31. Here is a video from Dr. Patricia Daly from last year that confirms this: Dr. Patricia Daly: "The vaccine passport requires people to be vaccinated to do certain discretionary activities, such as go to restaurants, movies, gyms. Not because these places are high risk, we're not actually seeing COVID transmission in these settings, it's really to create an incentive to improve our vaccination coverage"... "The vaccine passport is for non-essential opportunities, and it's really to create an incentive to get higher vaccination rates"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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