Petey40 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, coastal.view said: am implying no such thing i am being direct in stating it is unhelpful to suggest bc authorities lack full expertise in implementing a solid local plan i am implying that it is fine to review other information sources to satisfy yourself that what is going on with the bc plan is completely valid You completely disregarded the video someone posted earlier from a epidemiologist and recommended others do the same. You have repeatedly told people to ignore international information and stick to listening to local authorities. You have implied that people are posting misinformation because it’s not coming directly from the BC health experts. I repeat it is fine to listen to local authorities but don’t disregard the experts from around the world and don’t imply other sources from around the world are misinformation. I can go back and find quotes of you doing this. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aliboy said: Right now they are trying to keep people calm. They will change their approach as soon as they see a clear increase in the community spread of the virus. It's ridiculous to me that we'd wait for that to happen when we can react now (never mind 2 weeks ago)... Edited March 12, 2020 by aGENT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Darius said: I think that the only caution I have when taking direction or information from a government agency is I dont know if/how they are muting or downplaying the severity of the situation in order to maintain some social order. The global magnitude of the situation looks to me like its unprecedented (in my life time at least). I dont think they can come out and tell us "yeah theres probably a bunch of people we cant track that are spreading this right now" even if they are thinking that. Their words have to be carefully considered so that they dont instigate panic. With regards to the JR episode with Osterholm. What gives him credibility, in my mind, aside from his credentials and his position, is that he practically predicted the current scenario a while ago in one of his publications - everything from the point of origin to how the Chinese government would handle the situation. Not only that his org has published forecasts that are currently unfolding, outbreak magnitudes, rates of transmission etc...and he has been accurate - at least from what I can see. But you are right, info needs to be considered with a level head and with trust (hopefully) from the authorities that are put in charge to lead us in these situations. i do encourage you and everyone to review information from bc authorities it truly is comprehensive and reliable we seriously have the top world experts on virus issues in bc we do know what we are doing here https://globalnews.ca/news/6663168/coronavirus-bc-health-daily-update/ cheers i'm done advocating on this issue for a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: Yeah except they'll care when they are in class in late July because the school closed for 3-4 weeks in March. that'll never happen; teachers get paid for this break regardless, students are secondary contrary to what they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Petey40 said: You completely disregarded the video someone posted earlier from a epidemiologist and recommended others do the same. You have repeatedly told people to ignore international information and stick to listening to local authorities. You have implied that people are posting misinformation because it’s not coming directly from the BC health experts. I repeat it is fine to listen to local authorities but don’t disregard the experts from around the world and don’t imply other sources from around the world are misinformation. I can go back and find quotes of you doing this. not accurate what i did say is that we on these boards are not qualified to interpret that information in priority to local experts who are tasked with using all information to implement a coordinated plan to deal with this pandemic on a local basis but i'm done for a while now cheers stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Bye bye hockey. AHL and CHL (OHL, WHL, and QMJHL) follow the NHL and suspend play until further notice. EDIT: NCAA and USHL too EDIT2: and looks like SHL, Liiga, Extraliga, DEL, NLA, EBEL, Metal Ligaen are all cancelling or postponing playoffs or entire seasons. KHL seems to be continuing their playoffs, but now will be playing in empty buildings. Edited March 12, 2020 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 March Madness is cancelled Thu 12 Mar 2020 20:30:40 GMT The shoe has dropped... The March Madness college basketball tournament has been cancelled. A huge event for fans, gamblers and advertisers, it will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redhdlois Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 This is too close for comfort.....I live about a block away (I am still on Maui), but, my elderly mother lives in an independent retirement home a block away. I think Canada should suspend international travel into the country, as most of the cases around Vancouver have been brought in from people that were overseas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted March 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: They need to wash that sign. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: the quality of your post confirms you are guessing you'd rather guess then defer to expertise go ahead no one can stop you but yourself You are clearly uninformed. That's the attitude that's going to bring our health care system to its knees, same as Italy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: that'll never happen; teachers get paid for this break regardless, students are secondary contrary to what they say Teachers certainly could get asked to work in July if a couple weeks of are lost in Spring, I think it's in the contract that there has to be so many instructional days (like if there were too many snow days, some extra days at the end of the year would have to get tacked on). Generally teachers get a 10 month salary (with Winter and Spring breaks paid) but summer is not. That being said, most teachers, if they have a continuing position, can have their pay spread out over 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, aGENT said: It's ridiculous to me that we'd wait for that to happen when we can react now (never mind 2 weeks ago)... Except that there are things happening behind the scenes right now. There are going to be community testing centers, so people don't all have to go to a hospital, they are likely looking at preparing extra capacity at some or all hospitals. The problem we have is that our hospitals pretty much run at 100% capacity all the time, so it is very easy to overload them, and when that happens it can get out of hand quickly. So I would expect they are now making arrangements to handle as many more patients as they can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, stawns said: You are clearly uninformed. That's the attitude that's going to bring our health care system to its knees, same as Italy. https://globalnews.ca/news/6663168/coronavirus-bc-health-daily-update/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, coastal.view said: not accurate what i did say is that we on these boards are not qualified to interpret that information in priority to local experts who are tasked with using all information to implement a coordinated plan to deal with this pandemic on a local basis but i'm done for a while now cheers stay safe That.. makes no sense. The video posted and the articles being posted is already interpreted information. It’s not like we’re taking raw scientific data and making an assessment ourselves. These experts have already made the most accurate assessment they could based on the information available and interpreted it in a way the public can understand. That’s like saying we aren’t qualified to interpret the information from our BC health experts and should wait for our family doctor to interpret the information for us. How many interpretations do we need? Having them create a plan is good but applying efforts based off the opinion and expertise of international health experts instead of waiting for our government to apply similar efforts can do no wrong. Edited March 12, 2020 by Petey40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It would be nice if we could stop arguing about this video. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, aliboy said: Except that there are things happening behind the scenes right now. There are going to be community testing centers, so people don't all have to go to a hospital, they are likely looking at preparing extra capacity at some or all hospitals. The problem we have is that our hospitals pretty much run at 100% capacity all the time, so it is very easy to overload them, and when that happens it can get out of hand quickly. So I would expect they are now making arrangements to handle as many more patients as they can. they've also been interacting with people at YVR and getting people to self-isolate. Theres actually a lot going on: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/office-of-the-provincial-health-officer/reports-publications/covid-19-technical-briefing.pdf The bigger hole we might have is the cross-border shoppers and how much exposure they've had in Washington State. We haven't seen a exponential spike - yet - knocking on wood - that many other places have so, at least for now so far so good (as it can be). Edited March 12, 2020 by Jimmy McGill 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: It would be nice if we could stop arguing about this video. Okay, I’ll shut up haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: they've also been interacting with people at YVR and getting people to self-isolate. Theres actually a lot going on: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/office-of-the-provincial-health-officer/reports-publications/covid-19-technical-briefing.pdf The bigger hole we might have is the cross-border shoppers and how much exposure they've had in Washington State. We haven't seen a exponential spike - yet - knocking on wood - that many other places have so, at least for now so far so good (as it can be). Yes, I agree! To me our biggest risk is going to be from the US, which I expect to end up much like Italy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I'm hearing that BC will follow Ontario lead on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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