VegasCanuck Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, hammertime said: whats the point of drafting well if you road block their chances to earn a roster spot. If they earn a spot and prove they can outplay someone older, then you make room for them. If they can't, they spend more time in the minors until they can. Too many people are used to just having things handed to them, it builds complacency. Make them push and show that they are ready, and keep the older players looking over their shoulders at who's pushing them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Demko contract step forward, Pearson contract step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Hold on, we have to protect him at the expansion draft? At what? The expense of Jake, Gaudette, Motte or Macewan? His salary and term is long enough that he didn't need protection... Wtf? 7 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Is this true ? Nope, it's a NTC, not a NMC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Just checking back in to see if the fan over reaction to this contract is still going on...looks like it is, I'll circle back later and see if sanity has been restored pretty funny really many of us wanted him traded for assetts like other teams theat are rebuilding would but you think if you for sniff some roses for a couple of hours all of us who did not want him signed at all will suddenly realize "Oh golly gee, I am sure happy about that signing now" and you are the one talking down at us about sanity?????? Oh wait, It happenned, suddenly, just now a light has been turned on... I love this signing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, lmm said: pretty funny really many of us wanted him traded for assets like other teams that are rebuilding would but you think if you for sniff some roses for a couple of hours all of us who did not want him signed at all will suddenly realize "Oh golly gee, I am sure happy about that signing now" and you are the one talking down at us about sanity?????? Oh wait, It happenned, suddenly, just now a light has been turned on... I love this signing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lmm said: pretty funny really many of us wanted him traded for assetts like other teams theat are rebuilding would but you think if you for sniff some roses for a couple of hours all of us who did not want him signed at all will suddenly realize "Oh golly gee, I am sure happy about that signing now" and you are the one talking down at us about sanity?????? Oh wait, It happenned, suddenly, just now a light has been turned on... I love this signing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad I could help! Ohhh, and, you're welcome! Edited April 9, 2021 by VegasCanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, hammertime said: whats the point of drafting well if you road block their chances to earn a roster spot. If a young player outperforms him for a top 6 spot, then he simply drops to the third line. He's paid well within a middle 6 role. He's not road blocking anyone, simply the benchmark to earn a top 6 spot. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Screw said: I like what Person brings. Since joining Vancouver he had been a productive scorer, physical presence, and a has played 2nd line minutes. Lol @ all the hate here. At 28, he will be in his prime throughout these three years. He is a quality player. The contract is not as outrageous as the drama queens will have you believe. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post knucklehead91 Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Okay so let me get this straight.... Pearson’s contract does not take up a spot on the expansion draft protection list? He had a career year last year He is 28 turning 29 His current cap hit is 3.75m His cap hit next year is 3.25m The contract is 3 years.... Just going to do a little math here, but correct me if I’m wrong... 3.25-3.75= -.500? Am I just crazy or did we pay less for a guy whos still in his prime years and came off a career year?With a small and reasonable term, a contract that can still be exposed to Seattle (from what I understand) Y’all are just point counting and flippin out, when: 1) This is not a normal year, COVID has affected what a normal training camp would be. 2) no pre-season to get into game shape 3) Vancouver had played the most amount of hockey in a highly condensed schedule with hardly any rest, especially compared to teams like Montreal and Toronto in our division who have had 3 1 week breaks. 4) Injuries up and down the lineup 5) Pettersson has been out for a period of time, lines are not what they typically are 6) The team is having a down year and a poor start with long stretches of bad hockey 7) WE DIDNT GET ANY PRACTICE TIME UNTIL LIKE 15 GAMES IN OR SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT Toffoli is the same age and has half his goals against Vancouver this season and he’s playing on a deep team who has had quite a good chunk of rest throughout the season.. Lets be real, had we kept Toffoli he would not have 19g 11a on this team the way our season has gone. So we keep Toffoli instead and sign him for 4 years at 4.25m 1 year longer and 1mil more and who knows how his season would have gone here... He’s on a strong Montreal team that is rollin. The Canucks as a whole are having a rough year, Im not going to believe that Pearson went from a career year to an absolute dud over night. Pearson still has some good years of hockey left in him. We are going to have Lou’s cap penalty off the books Eriksson off the books Spooner off the books Baertschi off the books Beagle off the books Sutter off the books....... all within 2 years.... Im okay with 3.25 for a 28y/o whos won a cup and is better than the year he’s having... Now if it was Sutter or someone in the 30+ range for 3-4 years, I’d be frustrated. But we are talkin a guy whos in his late 20s and still in prime years and put up 21g and 24a last season. This year is hard to gauge for a lot of players. But what we know for sure is his salary did not increase. 3 8 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Just wait until we see Edler's extension 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Wouldn't it make more sense to not sign this deal + get rid of Virtanen and use that combined cap, for example, for a legit 2W for Bo? Perhaps one that's actually good at passing which he's pretty much never had. Or use that money or a legit top-4 D which this team still lacks and has no means of replacing internally as of now. Or keep all the money to keep your options open. Lind or even Jasek at 3C? You do realize C depth and overall defensive ability at center is a weak point of ours right? The more you dig into our roster and all the different options and possibilities in the off-season, the less sense it makes to commit to this contract at this point. It's less about the contract itself but more its opportunity cost. Pearson can play several roles. He has chemistry with Bo offensively and defensively. Podkolzin could be that 2W that you're talking about at a fraction of the cost (also an excellent passer), but instead of pencilling him in and having Bo take on two young wingers, this allows Podkolzin earn his spot if he can take it and Pearson is just fine on a 3rd line role as well. Lind and Jasek have shown quite well in Utica at center. We constantly hear about how we need to give young players a chance and then the idea gets crapped on. If they aren't ready, a stop gap in Soderberg for example should suffice. I mean we could target someone in UFA, but that could also end up with the second coming of Eriksson. It doesn't always work. We know Pearson works well with Bo and we know he can cover many roles which is well worth his cap hit. He isn't a "bargain", but this isn't crippling by any means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 What’s the percentage on Hamonic being re-signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: What’s the percentage on Hamonic being re-signed? With this Covid debacle, probably 0% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, AlwaysACanuckFan said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: With this Covid debacle, probably 0% At $2M for 2 years, he’d be a steal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: What’s the percentage on Hamonic being re-signed? It's like a game Whose Deal is it Anyway, where everything is made up behind the scenes and points don't matter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Not a fan. Pearson is already regressing into a third line checking player, we get better bang for buck in free agency and in the farm. We should have let him walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: At $2M for 2 years, he’d be a steal. I was referring to how he will probably be pissed at us for giving him Covid and dangering his immuno compromises daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Him and Juice in my opinion were the best characters in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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