Locke Lamora Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 What’s with these *insert Canuck name here* for the Hall of Fame topics all of a sudden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoH Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 People be using the term HoF too lightly these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Kesler would need a few more 70+ point and 40 goal seasons and at least one more trophy (another selke or a cup, maybe even both) to even be a bubble HHOF guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Not even close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Locke Lamora said: What’s with these *insert Canuck name here* for the Hall of Fame topics all of a sudden? summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, -SN- said: It's not the Hall of Didn't Win Anything But I Guess He's in Because We Have a Quota. https://www.nhl.com/news/hockey-fan-tweets-immortalized-by-hockey-hall-of-fame/c-326124240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, tas said: jersey retirements and rings of honour aren't about stats and trophies, they're about importance to an organization and city in all facets. What did Naslund and Bure do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: You have your opinion and I have my own. The facts and statistics are all there when it comes to the player. If you are inducted into the Hall of Fame based on the solely on the fact that there is a "lack of candidates" so it's a "what the hell, we'll just include you" type attitude then there's no point of even having a HOF. https://www.nhl.com/news/hockey-fan-tweets-immortalized-by-hockey-hall-of-fame/c-326124240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Iron Fist said: What did Naslund and Bure do then? bure was the franchise's first superstar and singlehandedly grew the fanbase enormously by being the most exciting player to ever play, at least until mcdavid. naslund is still the longest serving captain in team history, led the team out of the darkness of the late nineties and through one of the most successful and exciting periods in team history to that point, while also anchoring the best line in hockey, being voted mvp of the league by his colleagues, setting franchise scoring records, and making a huge impact in the community, particularly with charitable organizations and kids, helping to repair a severely damaged brand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Not even close. His defense was incredible, but his offense wasn't good enough to get him in. 573 points in 1001 games isn't even remotely close to HHOF-worthy IMO, even with incredible defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Not even close. His defense was incredible, but his offense wasn't good enough to get him in. 573 points in 1001 games isn't even remotely close to HHOF-worthy IMO, even with incredible defense. when you use words like incredible, you don't leave any words to describe guys like bergeron who are another class above. kesler was very good defensively for most of his career and anywhere from pretty good to very good offensively for the "mature" parts of his career (and between pretty bad and average for the early parts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, tas said: when you use words like incredible, you don't leave any words to describe guys like bergeron who are another class above. kesler was very good defensively for most of his career and anywhere from pretty good to very good offensively for the "mature" parts of his career (and between pretty bad and average for the early parts). Maybe it's semantics, but I would say words like legendary or generational are a step above "incredible" and could be used to describe guys like Bergeron or Datsyuk's defensive play. Anyone who can win the Selke is "incredible" defensively in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Iron Fist said: https://www.nhl.com/news/hockey-fan-tweets-immortalized-by-hockey-hall-of-fame/c-326124240 Wow cool. I didn't know our tweets can turn into plaques. I don't remember asking for such an irrelevant link but thank you anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, tas said: when you use words like incredible, you don't leave any words to describe guys like bergeron who are another class above. kesler was very good defensively for most of his career and anywhere from pretty good to very good offensively for the "mature" parts of his career (and between pretty bad and average for the early parts). Bergeron is the class above Kesler, but that class is literally the greatest of all time. If there were a defensive forward hall of fame, Kesler would be in. The list of players who have been a Selke finalist five times is very, very, very short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Bit of an unfair list to compare him to the other members of the stacked 2003 draft, but that is the competition he will be up against when considering HOF. Interesting to look at that roster, which is definitely hitting retirement age. Which one of these guys makes the hall? M.A. Fleury (a lock) Eric Staal (elite but never the best, 1 cup) Ryan Suter (elite but never the best, no cup) Jeff Carter (excellent international career and 2 cups) Dustin Brown (2 cups as a captain but not much else) Brent Seabrook (key pairing with Keith, 3 cups plus some gold) Zach Parise (see Ryan Suter) Ryan Getzlaf (elite player but never the best, 1 cup, lotta gold) Brent Burns (the best for a few years, but no cup and no olympic gold) Corey Perry (has won at least one of everything - a lock) Patrice Bergeron (no Bruin is wearing #37 again - a surefire lock) Shea Weber (excellent reputation but has never actually won anything in the league, but has a lot of gold) Joe Pavelski (excellent reputation and longevity but hasn't won anything in league or internationally) As you guys can see, there are probably a solid handful of players here who deserve it more than Ryan Kesler. Which really just speaks to how stacked this class was. There were a bunch of names I didn't even mention but were excellent players in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Is this a joke? What's next, Ronning in the HOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Bergeron is the class above Kesler, but that class is literally the greatest of all time. If there were a defensive forward hall of fame, Kesler would be in. The list of players who have been a Selke finalist five times is very, very, very short. As much of a **** he was in the way he left, you can never say that he took a "night off". In fact, you can say he actually worked too hard in the regular season. Should've maybe dailed it down in the home stretch of a regular season but there wasn't anything but 'full speed' with him. Likely meant he sometimes didn't have enough gas in the post-season *sometimes* as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Is this a joke? What's next, Ronning in the HOF? Jester13 as a Mod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 If the standard were dropped so far that Kesler was considered a viable contender, then surely Canucks like Ohlund, Edler, Bertuzzi, Morrison and a boatload of others would also be in the conversation, as well as countless players from other teams as well. So no, not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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