Ted Lasso Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A couple of comments about things I consistently keep reading. - Just because they haven’t allowed teams to talk contract yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Most likely the last step after all the fine details are ironed out. No point letting them talk unless you have a deal 95% agreed upon - Carolina isn’t a fit, they have young centers, they would be more inclined to go with Timo Meir or a less expensive (acquisition cost ) veteran true rental center . Rumoured Toews for 2nd rounder. Teams im cheering for to string some wins together : Nashville, NYI, Florida Could be potential landing spots if playoffs seem achievable. NYI and Nashville seem like the best trade partner from their perspective long term IMO Agree with 1. @eeeeergh has explained this well, also. Carolina was reportedly out on Horvat due to the asking price, it think there’s still a fit there. Who would you want back from NSH, NYI & FLA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, billabong said: Props to you for posting the scouting report To me edvinsson is the prize out of Detroit as we have zero in the pipeline on D on the left side and right side. he’s a bonafide young top 4 D in the making edvinsson, kasper or rasmussen, zadina edvinsson and Kasper would be a grand slam home run but Rasmussen would be a great consolation prize if Det holds onto Kasper Yeah Edvinsson sounds amazing, and I think is their #1 prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, billabong said: To van: kasper, edvinsson, zadina to det: horvat Alvin if he got offered that.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, billabong said: Props to you for posting the scouting report To me edvinsson is the prize out of Detroit as we have zero in the pipeline on D on the left side and right side. he’s a bonafide young top 4 D in the making edvinsson, kasper or rasmussen, zadina edvinsson and Kasper would be a grand slam home run but Rasmussen would be a great consolation prize if Det holds onto Kasper There's zero chance we get Kasper and Edvinsson. They have a parade of LD they'd move before ever entertaining an Edvinsson trade. He'll go nicely with Seider in their top 4. They actually draft and develop their own D. Must be nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Agree with 1. @eeeeergh has explained this well, also. Carolina was reportedly out on Horvat due to the asking price, it think there’s still a fit there. Who would you want back from NSH, NYI & FLA? NSH Would be #1 trade partner IMO because I can see Horvat agreeing to extension. Ideal return: Fedor Svechkov Dante Fabbro 1st rd pick more likely: Colton Scissons Dante Fabbro Philip Tomasino in the middle : Svechkov Jusso Parssinen Luke Prokop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A couple of comments about things I consistently keep reading. - Just because they haven’t allowed teams to talk contract yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Most likely the last step after all the fine details are ironed out. No point letting them talk unless you have a deal 95% agreed upon - Carolina isn’t a fit, they have young centers, they would be more inclined to go with Timo Meir or a less expensive (acquisition cost ) veteran true rental center . Rumoured Toews for 2nd rounder. Teams im cheering for to string some wins together : Nashville, NYI, Florida Could be potential landing spots if playoffs seem achievable. NYI and Nashville seem like the best trade partner from their perspective long term IMO Nashville is completely cap strapped next season and are trying to get rid of some of their veteran contracts to open up roster spots for their younger players - the group is far too old and it's not working. Can't see why Vancouver would help them out when they are trying to clear their own cap headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, mll said: Nashville is completely cap strapped next season and are trying to get rid of some of their veteran contracts to open up roster spots for their younger players - the group is far too old and it's not working. Can't see why Vancouver would help them out when they are trying to clear their own cap headaches. Or why Bo would want to extend long term with them? They're not exactly contenders. Same goes for Boston: they're contenders this year, but once their top guys retire, they'll stop contending right away, so I don't see why Bo would want to be there for their rebuild either. Bo is a rental. We should expect a rental return, and a low one at that, considering every team knows the position we're in with little to no leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: NSH Would be #1 trade partner IMO because I can see Horvat agreeing to extension. Ideal return: Fedor Svechkov Dante Fabbro 1st rd pick more likely: Colton Scissons Dante Fabbro Philip Tomasino in the middle : Svechkov Jusso Parssinen Luke Prokop Nice. Svechkov Podkolzin might be a great duo. Whats Prokops upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, mll said: Nashville is completely cap strapped next season and are trying to get rid of some of their veteran contracts to open up roster spots for their younger players - the group is far too old and it's not working. Can't see why Vancouver would help them out when they are trying to clear their own cap headaches. It’s not helping them out it’s making a trade. They may be up against the cap this yesr but they essentially have their entire team locked up for awhile. All they have to do is trade Ekholm to alleviate the crunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, billabong said: One team that we keep hearing but I can’t wrap my head around “why?” Is Detroit. unless they give up assets for horvat to roll the dice on signing him and recoup those assets by flipping Larkin untouchables I’m guessing are Raymond seider and maybe hronek considering the season he is having. so what’s left? kasper, edvinsson, Rasmussen, zadina, veleno and soberblom To van: kasper, edvinsson, zadina to det: horvat Even with 2.750 retained on Bo, Detroit has to send cap back. Detroit has pending UFA in Sundqvist and P.Suter 2.750 & 3.250. ***checked with capfriendly and says they will have 25 million in space come TDL, not sure how correct that is though. Horvat as bait to ride shotgun with Larkin and get them both extended. Horvat Larkin Raymond Do not want Zadina, too many injuries thus far for the young fella. Do not want Kaspar, GMJR stated they want NHL players on or just coming off of ELC. If GMJR can swing A package of Rasmussen 6"6, 220lbs, Soderblom 6"8 246lbs(THATS A HEFTY BOY) & Edvinsson 6"4, 200lbs. I'd be over the moon. bigger, meaner and harder to play against 40 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: JR said that they would like to bring in young players that are in their ELC or just out of, that could use a fresh start. This, to me, means high drafted players that aren't panning out as expected (yet). DET for possibly Zadina+, Rasmussen+ or Veleno+ or CAR for Kotkaniemi+ or NYR for Kravtsov+, or Kakko+ Rasmussen, Soderblom & Edvinsson Car doesn't need Horvat. Kotkaniemi injured Petey, He will not be a Canuck. Pass on Kravtsov and his past issues. Kakko is on pace for his best season by far and is a Winger. Priorities are D/RHD & C 13 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: A couple of comments about things I consistently keep reading. - Just because they haven’t allowed teams to talk contract yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Most likely the last step after all the fine details are ironed out. No point letting them talk unless you have a deal 95% agreed upon - Carolina isn’t a fit, they have young centers, they would be more inclined to go with Timo Meir or a less expensive (acquisition cost ) veteran true rental center . Rumoured Toews for 2nd rounder. Teams im cheering for to string some wins together : Nashville, NYI, Florida Could be potential landing spots if playoffs seem achievable. NYI and Nashville seem like the best trade partner from their perspective long term IMO Nailed it! Also Carolina ownership has been outspoken about not acquiring rentals for the playoffs. 9 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Considering their first is now a top 10, think it’s off the table, but a deal around Kasper or Rasmussen could address our C need. They don’t have any significant RD I could find They have 2 from the early rounds that I've checked out, not too sure on their availability though Detroit does have like 9 D prospects in the system from rounds 1-3. Again, not what GMJR said he was looking for in trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: It’s not helping them out it’s making a trade. They may be up against the cap this yesr but they essentially have their entire team locked up for awhile. All they have to do is trade Ekholm to alleviate the crunch Saw your proposal in the following post - that seems rather at odds with what Poile has been saying. He keeps on talking of how they need their younger players to grab larger roles - they are too old as a team and know they need to get younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: If GMJR can swing A package of Rasmussen 6"6, 220lbs, Soderblom 6"8 246lbs(THATS A HEFTY BOY) & Edvinsson 6"4, 200lbs. That's 2/3rds if their 3rd line that was for the first quarter of the season the highest scoring and hardest playing 3rd like in the league. No chance they do it but GD....I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) I have not heard of Demkos status or a follow up of his injury for quite some time .. sort of unrelated to moving Horvat,. But possibly not. If J Eichel can move through a surgery ,. Nothing is “home safe”. anybody? Demko Horvat Rasmussen Seider Edited January 24, 2023 by SilentSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Hmm…Friedman mentioned Bruins in on Horvat but also looking for a LD too. Bo + OEL for Grzelcyk + Lysell + 1st + Zacha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 13 hours ago, King Heffy said: Zero. 1 for 1. Both teams get a player that fits their timeline and cap situation better with a similar skillset. Guys with Wright's draft pedigree aren't usually available at all in their D+1. I would actually be pretty happy with a 1 for 1 for Wright and it does also help Seattle. However, Seattle only has 3.6M in deadline cap space so Vancouver would have to retain 2M on Horvat to make the cap work in a 1 for 1. 2M retention is probably worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick. So, Wright + 2nd for Horvat + 2M retained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, BPA said: Hmm…Friedman mentioned Bruins in on Horvat but also looking for a LD too. Bo + OEL for Grzelcyk + Lysell + 1st + Zacha Horvat, Stillman and Schenn for Carlo, Lysell, DeBrusk and a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Detroit interests me. I would Imagine it would have to be shaped like: Roster Player, Top Prospect, Prospect close to full time NHL So lets go over some option: Roster player: Tyler Bertuzzi (extension) Michael Rassmussen Robby Fabri Dominik Kubalik Pius Suter Top Prospect: Simon Edvisson (Lots of LD prospects and players) Marco Kasper (I Think he is untouchable) Sebastion Cossa (Might be an option if we look to move Demko too) Prospect close to Full Time NHL: Joe Veleno Elmer Soderblom William Wallinder Personally I would want a Package to look like: Michael Rasmussen+ Simon Edvisson+ Joe Veleno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Detroit interests me. I would Imagine it would have to be shaped like: Roster Player, Top Prospect, Prospect close to full time NHL So lets go over some option: Roster player: Tyler Bertuzzi (extension) Michael Rassmussen Robby Fabri Dominik Kubalik Pius Suter Top Prospect: Simon Edvisson (Lots of LD prospects and players) Marco Kasper (I Think he is untouchable) Sebastion Cossa (Might be an option if we look to move Demko too) Prospect close to Full Time NHL: Joe Veleno Elmer Soderblom William Wallinder Personally I would want a Package to look like: Michael Rasmussen+ Simon Edvisson+ Joe Veleno I think that with the best trade chip we've had in maybe the history of our franchise, we use it to acquire a position of need; RHD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: I think that with the best trade chip we've had in maybe the history of our franchise, we use it to acquire a position of need; RHD. Who do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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