Odjick the Warrior Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Vancouver trade JT Miller Aiden McDonough Tucker Poolman New York Islanders trade Ryan Pulock Oliver Wahlstrom Let’s hear everyone rip this proposal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 This is a great proposal! Get ‘er done JR! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I'd do it in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 More wingers. ‘Good deal overall. Helps on right D. ‘More wingers in the system though really need some Centres and about 3 right D prospects. ‘Don’t expect JTM trade to fix all issue but if we don’t get a C back or in another deal we go into the season with two NHL centres in Bo and Lazar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice8eight Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Dobson or no deal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: More wingers. ‘Good deal overall. Helps on right D. ‘More wingers in the system though really need some Centres and about 3 right D prospects. ‘Don’t expect JTM trade to fix all issue but if we don’t get a C back or in another deal we go into the season with two NHL centres in Bo and Lazar. I wonder if our coaches/management have considered moving Pods to centre? Big, strong, skilled, smart, defensively very good, and has that willingness to do whatever it takes to help the team win. Pods would for sure make the necessary sacrifice of offence to be responsible defensively. So a trade like proposed here gets us our much needed partner for Hughes, and a young winger that can play a role. And Pods becomes a much needed bottom six centre. Petey Bo Pods Lazar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 16 team NTC for Pu. I guess there's a chance we're not on that list but I'd expect he's got a no-Canada clause in there. If thats thats case I don't see a deal happening with NYI as there really isn't any other d that help us and/or they would be willing to give up. Wahlstrom is an interesting piece but they aren't using him as a C - 14 face-offs last year? so we'd be looking at him for RW, which would be good if we move Garland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) They aren’t moving Dobson so Dobson or no deal is just no deal. They would be nuts to do that and Lou isn’t nuts or stupid. Not sure about moving Podz to C. Already hard enough adjusting to the league not like he was a centre who converted to wing, has always been a winger. Pu is 27, can he even have a NTC yet he should still be in RFA years? Edited July 20, 2022 by DrJockitch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Vancouver trade JT Miller Aiden McDonough Tucker Poolman New York Islanders trade Ryan Pulock Oliver Wahlstrom Let’s hear everyone rip this proposal Puock 6'2, RD, 28 yrs old Oct, 8 years X 6.1 million - NO - I would pass on Pulock contract will hurt.. Not much of a upgrade on Myers Pass on this deal with Pulock. Walstrom 6'2, 22 - W - 2021-22 - Has upside GP 73 -- 24 PTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ice8eight said: Dobson or no deal. Dobson 22, 6'3, RD, 51 points will not be moved ....No deal then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Vancouver trade JT Miller Aiden McDonough Tucker Poolman New York Islanders trade Ryan Pulock Oliver Wahlstrom Let’s hear everyone rip this proposal Hypothetically, (which is what we do here...), that's probably pretty good value for both sides. Issues are, Pulock is just starting a new contract with a full NTC, and I don't believe Poolman has been cleared to return to play from the migraine issues he fought will all last season. Good effort though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Pu is 27, can he even have a NTC yep: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ryan-pulock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The return seems just slightly underwhelming compared to the names and packages that have been speculated. Don't get me wrong - Pulock is *precisely* the kind of guy we need for a top pairing with Hughes so I love the target. I also like that we cap dump Poolman, which I suppose is where the lack of value appears because it's costly to move (somewhat) dead cap space - especially with term. This trade also loses one of our best prospects in McDonough (which isn't saying much as he is far from an NHL lock) and Wahlstrom took a big step back last season and we don't really need yet another forward, even if Miller exits the lineup. But overall, it does help us on a couple of fronts. Solid proposal. But perhaps we drop Wahlstrom from the deal? Miller, Poolman, 2nd for Pulock, 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Pulock has a 16 team NMC, which usually includes all Cdn teams. If Van were not on the list, I would drop Wahlstrom and add Raty. Not sure that Poolman should be included. Miller for Pulock + Raty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameci Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Your original proposal is excellent. Pulock would be a great get for the Canucks and Wahlstrom is really the only forward that interests me as part of a return in a Miller trade. I realize that Pulock is a little older than I would have hoped and his cap hit is a little high, but he would make a great centerpiece in a deal between the Canucks and Islanders. Dobson is not going to be traded, but the proposal brings back two quality pieces to the Canucks. We receive an excellent mentor for Hughes and a former first round pick for JT. I would be very happy as a Canucks’ fan if this was the final chapter in the ongoing JT Miller Saga. Well done Odjick 4 Premier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 hours ago, ice8eight said: Dobson or no deal. Yup agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I would be happy with: Miller + Myers in exchange for Pulock + Wahlstrom Then I'd also like to see: Garland + Poolman + 3rd pick in exchange for Connor Murphy (CHI) Sign UFA Rodrigues as 3C for $2.5m and Motte for $1.5m Lineup: Mikheyev Pettersson Podkolzin Kuzmenko Horvat Boeser Pearson Rodrigues Wahlstrom Joshua Lazar Motte (Dickinson) Hughes Murphy OEL Pulock Rathbone Schenn (Dermott Burroughs) Demko (Martin) Hogs, Karlsson, Lockwood in AHL getting big minutes Ferland on IR (not LTIR) and still about $1.2m in cap space 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 22 hours ago, ice8eight said: Dobson or no deal. I agree with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 No player is untradable at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 17 hours ago, BigTramFan said: I would be happy with: Miller + Myers in exchange for Pulock + Wahlstrom The Islanders don’t want to add $11,000,000+ Cap hit this year and $6,000,000 cap hit next year when they need to resign Barzal and give Miller a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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