Popular Post Drive-By Body Pierce Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 The Canucks have the franchise goaltender that they need to be true Stanley Cup contenders. They have a forward group that features high-end talent as well as depth throughout. They have a defence group that could lead a team to the Calder Cup. While that’s being dramatic, the Canucks do have a very weak defence corps that is holding the team back. While Quinn Hughes is the most electric defenceman the franchise has ever seen, behind him, the team features a mix of unproven youngsters and overpaid veterans. If the Canucks want to contend for one of the three Pacific Division playoff spots that are up for grabs, they’re going to need to hope that the defence plays well enough to keep them in games. Do they have the talent to best their Pacific Division opponents? Each team will be graded on two categories (best defenceman and best defence depth) with points being handed out for the team’s ranking within the division. All the points will be tabulated at the bottom of the article and it will be scored like golf. Anaheim Ducks Best Defenceman: John Klingberg – 6th After being linked to the Vancouver Canucks as a possible match, John Klingberg eventually signed a deal with the division rival Anaheim Ducks. He’s a smooth skater, a player that can create offence from the blue line, and a veteran presence in the room. While those characteristics may not have made him a great fit for Vancouver, he’s instantly the best defenceman on the Ducks. Best Depth: 7th The Ducks have a few solid defencemen but the position group gets thin near the bottom. Jamie Drysdale is a great young prospect and Cam Fowler had a solid season, but the bottom three players are nothing to write home about. Kevin Shattenkirk is not the player he once was. Calgary Flames Best Defenceman: Noah Hanifin – 4th The Calgary Flames boast a deep defence corps filled with young players that are just about to hit their prime. Hanifin is the best of the bunch. He chews up minutes at even strength and features on the power play and penalty kill as well. He managed to get 48 points last season while also being helpful in every situation. Hanifin is firmly in the middle of all the top Pacific Division defencemen at the moment, but in a few years, he should be closer to the top. Best Defence Depth: 1st Even when the Flames were staring down the possibility of losing Matthew Tkachuk for a minimal return, they still could rely on the fact that they have a great defence corps. Adding Mackenzie Weegar to that group is an added bonus that makes the team even stronger. The Flames have a very balanced defence group that most NHL teams are jealous of. Edmonton Oilers Best Defenceman: Darnell Nurse – 3rd One of the more controversial players in the NHL, Darnell Nurse was handed a massive $9.25 million contract by the Edmonton Oilers. While it’s going to be tough for him to live up to that deal, Nurse is still a good player. He’s pretty dynamic offensively and at 6’4″ has the size to push out opponents. However, he’s been critiqued for his defensive play, specifically against the rush, and while he did get better last season, he’s still not as strong as the top two in this division. Best Depth: 5th The Oilers slide in at number five on this list but they do have a couple of regression candidates to keep an eye on. One of those is Cody Ceci who had a solid season last year but has yet to prove across his career that he can be relied upon in a top-four role. Evan Bouchard and Phillip Broberg are both young players that could take a step forward this season. Los Angeles Kings Best Defenceman: Drew Doughty – 5th Once one of the best defencemen on planet earth, Doughty is now in the later stages of his career. Even though he is getting older and isn’t the player he once was, Doughty can still have a positive impact on the ice. He had a bounce back year this past season that was unfortunately cut short due to a variety of injuries. If he can stay healthy, Doughty figures to once again be the leader on the Kings blueline. Best Depth: 4th Take a look at the Kings defence depth chart and a familiar face is sitting there. Alex Edler is a veteran presence for the Kings and while he’s fallen off a step, he’s still a solid third pairing guy. The Kings are rich in right-handed defencemen, including some prospects that have yet to break the NHL, one of the most valuable position groups across the league. San Jose Sharks Best Defenceman: Erik Karlsson – 8th Similar to Doughty, Karlsson was once one of the most dynamic blueliners in the NHL, and likely one of the most dynamic in modern NHL history. After signing a massive deal in San Jose, Karlsson’s play has fallen off a cliff. A slight resurgence last year, thought not not to the same level as Doughty, means that Karlsson is still the best Sharks defenceman. However, there isn’t a ton of competition. Depth: 8th The San Jose Sharks defence group is a graveyard of former impact players. Karlsson’s decline has been documented but Marc-Edouard Vlasic is another former contributor who is now an overpaid burden. The Sharks are firmly in rebuilding mode and their defence looks a lot more bleak than the solid but not great forwards. Seattle Kraken Best Defenceman: Vince Dunn – 7th The Seattle Kraken have a variety of good but not great defencemen that could have taken this position. Dunn was the team’s best last season so he holds the title for now. With 35 points in 71 games last season, Dunn was able to chip in offensively. The Kraken had a tough year and were caved in by most teams, making life difficult for their defencemen. Depth: 3rd In classic expansion team fashion, the Kraken lack star power but have solid depth throughout. Adam Larsson is not a superstar but he is someone that can put up points and be effective while eating up minutes. The Kraken also signed Justin Schultz this offseason, a right-handed defenceman that has aged really well in the NHL, especially in regards to his play in his own zone. Vancouver Canucks Best Defenceman: Quinn Hughes – 1st Quinn Hughes is the most dynamic defenceman to ever wear the Canucks jersey and will rewrite every franchise record by the time that he is done playing. While his sophomore season saw many of his defensive metrics drop, this past year Hughes was more responsible in his own zone and had a stronger two-way profile. He’s one of the best defencemen across the entire league and there’s still another gear for him to hit. Depth: 6th The Canucks have a huge lack of defence depth. It’s probably the most glaring hole across the entire roster. The right side is especially bad with journeyman Luke Schenn likely playing first line minutes to start the season and Tyler Myers playing the role of complete minute-cruncher. It will be interesting to see if Jack Rathbone or Travis Dermott can emerge this season as reliable options. Vegas Golden Knights Best Defenceman: Alex Pietrangelo – 2nd Last season was a funky one for the Golden Knights who struggled through injury issues on their way to a surprising playoff miss. This season the team will be gearing up for a deep playoff run and Pietrangelo figures to play a major role. Even in what was considered a down year, Pietrangelo managed to record 44 points. More stability around him this year should be a positive for Pietrangelo. Depth: 2nd The Golden Knights have great depth throughout their defence group. Shea Theodore is a creative offensive defenceman that shows up on the scoresheet. The franchise has handled the development of Nicolas Hague extremely well and he will likely only improve over the next few years. Alec Martinez is a veteran warrior that will put his body on the line in any situation. Overall, a very solid group. Final Rankings Tier 1 1st: Vegas Golden Knights (2 + 2) = 4 2nd: Calgary Flames (4 + 1) = 5 Tier 2 3rd: Vancouver Canucks (1 + 6) = 7 4th: Edmonton Oilers (3 + 5) = 8 5th: Los Angeles Kings (5 + 4) = 9 6th: Seattle Kraken (7 + 3) = 10 Tier 3 7th: Anaheim Ducks (6 + 7) = 13 8th: San Jose Sharks (8 + 8) = 16 https://canucksarmy.com/2022/08/13/analyzing-ranking-how-canucks-defence-currently-stack-against-rest-pacific-division/ 6 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Apologies on formatting, never seems to go smoothly on my phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Edmonton definitely needs to be at the very bottom. Nurse is literally the only actual NHLer they have in their blueline, and he still isn't very good defensively and refuses to play like a man. A right side that includes pylons like Bouchard and Barrie puts them in the running for the worst D group in the history of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 If Hughes - OEL gets tried and ends up being a viable pair, I wonder if that changes our depth ranking? How does the depth chart compare? I think a side-by-side comparison between the teams works too. Left: Hughes, OEL, Dermott (switch), Rathbone, Burroughs (switch) Right: Myers, Schenn, Juulsen Or: Left: Hughes, Dermott, Rathbone, Burroughs Right: OEL (switch), Myers, Schenn That left side looks thin after Hughes if OEL switches but there is potential if Rathbone or Dermott can pick things up. That right side, while old for my tastes, doesn't look too bad ability wise compared to our divisional counterparts. Divisional Depth Charts by side: Spoiler Vegas LHD: Hague, McNabb, Martinez, Hutton Vegas RHD: Pietro, Theodore, Whitecloud Calgary LHD: Hanifin, Weegar, Kylington, Valimaki Calgary RHD: Andersson, Tanev, Zadorov Edmonton LHD: Nurse, Kulak, Broberg, Koekkoek Edmonton RHD: Ceci, Bouchard, Barrie LA LHD: Anderson, Bjornfot, Edler LA RHD: Doughty, Roy, Durzi/Walker (when healthy) Seattle LHD: Dunn, Oleksiak, Soucy Seattle RHD: Larsson, Schultz, Borgen, Fleury Anaheim LHD: Fowler, Vaakanainen, Benoit, White, Mahura Anaheim RHD: Drysdale, Klingberg, Shattenkirk San Jose LHD: Ferraro, Simek, Nutivaara, Megna San Jose RHD: Karlsson, Vlasic, Benning, Merkley Ranking LHD combining star-power and depth after OEL switches: Spoiler 1. Calgary 2. Vegas 3. LA 4. Vancouver (switch with LA if OEL on left side) - - - - - - - - - - - 5. Anaheim 6. San Jose 7. Seattle 8. Edmonton Ranking RHD combining star-power and depth after OEL switches: Spoiler 1. Vegas 2. Calgary 3. LA 4. Vancouver 5. Anaheim - - - - - - - - - - 6. Edmonton (Vancouver drops to six if OEL on left side) 7. Seattle 8. San Jose I think it's fair to say this: We have a playoff-contender level forward group, a contender-championship level goalie, and a wildcard-level defense, although I do think we stack up better if OEL can play on the right side. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Seems pretty accurate. If Rathbone's ready thats a big help. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Cool article idea. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quantum Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 I'd make the argument that MacKenzie Weegar is the Calgary Flames best defenseman not Noah Hanifin. Weegar is an established #2 NHL defenseman who has the chance to be the #1 guy in Calgary. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Cool article idea. Yeah I thought so too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Cool article idea, can’t say I agree with the final results or “data” though…a lot of this seems subjective to the author tbh. When healthy, Doughty and EK65 are obviously better than where they are placed, and I don’t even like either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Our right side is weak but our left side can match up with anyone in the Conference not named Colorado. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Jay 22 Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Our right side is weak but our left side can match up with anyone in the Conference not named Colorado. With who? After Quinn, it’s a pretty big drop off. OEL is declining rapidly and everyone else is average or sketchy. It’s not even top 2 in our own division. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Blue Jay 22 said: With who? After Quinn, it’s a pretty big drop off. OEL is declining rapidly and everyone else is average or sketchy. It’s not even top 2 in our own division. Ummm, OEL is a #1 Dman on alot of teams, and probably most teams in the Western Conference. Can you tell me which of the #2 left sided Dman on all of the other teams in the Western Conference not named Colorado are better than OEL? 1 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fanfor42 Posted August 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Ummm, OEL is a #1 Dman on alot of teams, and probably most teams in the Western Conference. Can you tell me which of the #2 left sided Dman on all of the other teams in the Western Conference not named Colorado are better than OEL? ^ this. OEL is a very good LD. He is a solid #2 LD on virtually every NHL team. He should get more props from fans here. He makes 1M more than he would be if he were a steal. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted August 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: ^ this. OEL is a very good LD. He is a solid #2 LD on virtually every NHL team. He should get more props from fans here. He makes 1M more than he would be if he were a steal. He'd easily be the best LD on the following: Edmonton Washington Florida Philly Boston Toronto Pittsburgh San Jose New Jersey Montreal St Louis Seattle LA Ottawa Chicago Detroit Dallas Anaheim Buffalo OEL is criminally underrated here. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob.Loblaw Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Our right side is weak but our left side can match up with anyone in the Conference not named Colorado. Teams know it and will exploit plays up the left wing or criss-cross into the middle and create space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Teams know it and will exploit plays up the left wing or criss-cross into the middle and create space. Edmonton still somehow made the conference finals without a single NHLer on their right side. It was atrocious and they definitely paid the price once they played a men's team, but our right side is nowhere near as bad as their AHL trash. It'll be fine once they have a full season without Baumgartner sabotaging the group with his gross incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Teams know it and will exploit plays up the left wing or criss-cross into the middle and create space. True. That’s why we still need to get a defencman who can play the right side before the season starts. I would be okay with Calvin De Haan. He’s an upgrade on most of our guys. Damon Severson would be a great add. I’m hoping we make a move for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post You Mad Bro? Posted August 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2022 Ahh screw it. Just try Miller at RD. This is now a Miller thread. 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, You Mad Bro? said: Ahh screw it. Just try Miller at RD. This is now a Miller thread. At this point, I'm wiling to see them try it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. That’s why we still need to get a defencman who can play the right side before the season starts. I would be okay with Calvin De Haan. He’s an upgrade on most of our guys. Damon Severson would be a great add. I’m hoping we make a move for him. That settles it, Miller for Severson+. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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