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1 minute ago, JM_ said:

Seems possible, but I really want to see Hughes-OEL for a legit top pair. I'm very curious if Dermott-Myers can work. 

As a third pair those two would be great.  Not too sure about them playing top four against the better teams.  

But we have added Mykayyev.  A guy like that can very much help the D be better.  

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

As a third pair those two would be great.  Not too sure about them playing top four against the better teams.  

But we have added Mykayyev.  A guy like that can very much help the D be better.  

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1 minute ago, Goal:thecup said:

Yeah, me too.

I think they would drive other teams nuts.

Hughes-OEL

Dermott-Myers

Rathbone-Schenn

Burroughs-Keeper

 

to me if this works thats a step forward. Can adjust the 3rd pair on a game by game basis depending on the team maybe. 

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Canucks sign speedy winger Ilya Mikheyev to four-year deal

Big Russian winger brings speed, penalty killing, and goalscoring to the Canucks.
Daniel Wagner
Daniel Wagner
Jul 13, 2022 11:04 AM
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mikheyev-hughes-cp Ilya Mikheyev of the Toronto Maple Leafs slips a pass by Quinn Hughes of the Vancouver Canucks.Darryl Dyck / CP

The Vancouver Canucks were not quite as quiet as they were expected to be on the first day of free agency. They may not have been in on any of the big names but they did nab a medium-sized name, signing Ilya Mikheyev to a four-year deal.

Mikheyev's contract has a cap hit of $4.75 million, which is a little bit more than most were expecting the Canucks to spend. But there's a lot to like about Mikheyev's game and it's intriguing to speculate about where he might fit.

The name of Mikheyev's game is speed. He's legitimately one of the fastest skaters in the NHL and he combines with a 6'2" frame and a willingness to throw hits and battle for pucks. All of that combines to make him a nightmare to play against — when he's not first to the puck, he's throwing a check and stealing it anyway.

Mikheyev's speed and strong two-way game make him a puck possession powerhouse — he's constantly pushing the puck in the right direction, as illustrated by his heat map from HockeyViz.

 
 

To go along with his outstanding possession game at 5-on-5, Mikheyev is an effective penalty killer, using his speed and long reach at the top of the zone to disrupt passing lanes. That speed also makes him a threat to score shorthanded — he had four shorthanded goals this past season. 

The speed and penalty killing are an immediate upgrade for the Canucks for next season. The question is, what else can Mikheyev bring?

The one knock against Mikheyev in previous years was a lack of finish. He would play up and down the lineup with his complementary game and create all kinds of chances with his hustle, but he just couldn't put those chances in the net. 

That changed this past season, as Mikheyev exploded with 21 goals in just 53 games.

That's a 32-goal pace over 82 games after missing a couple of months to start the season with a broken thumb. Getting a potential 30-goal scorer for just $4.75 million, particularly one that plays a dominant possession game and can kill penalties, sounds like a coup for the Canucks.

There are some caveats, however. Mikheyev had a career-high 14.3% shooting percentage this past season — nearly eight points higher than his shooting percentage the previous year. Did he make some major adjustments to improve his shot or did he get a lot luckier this season compared to last season? Can the Canucks expect Mikheyev to score goals at the same rate next season as he did with the Leafs?

Maybe not, but even if he doesn't, Mikheyev is a very useful player. He'll be the engine for whatever line he lands on. The addition of Mikheyev gives the Canucks some strong depth on the wings, suggesting more of a top-nine configuration than the top-six, bottom-six lineup the Canucks have typically used. 

Mikheyev is also, by all accounts, an incredibly friendly guy with a fun personality off the ice. He turned his love of soup into a nickname — The Soupman — and a Campbell's Soup commercial. Combined that with his playstyle on the ice and he's sure to quickly become a fan favourite.

He also joins two other Russians on the Canucks in Vasily Podkolzin and Andrei Kuzmenko. With just a few moves, the Canucks have turned themselves into a destination for Russian free agents. That could pay dividends down the road.

 

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11 minutes ago, JM_ said:

Seems possible, but I really want to see Hughes-OEL for a legit top pair. I'm very curious if Dermott-Myers can work. 

I would rather have them on seperate pairings. That way for 50 of 60min one of them is out there. We just need at least 1 true shutdown rhd pleeeeease

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48 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:

Garland maybe, but I don't think we are going to sign-and-trade anybody.

This is the ugly side of the ledger from signing Miller, that people are ignoring in their elation.

 

The RD needs addressing at some point in the next year or two. SOMEBODY (not named Miller now) is getting moved, with Garland and Boeser the two most likely of the key trade pieces to do so. And they'll likely need to be packaged with someone like Rathbone, Hoglander etc... Maybe a B prospect like Karlsson or Jurmo, or a first, as well depending on the quality of said D. 

 

All of which means less depth, older average age, less cap cleared... Everything has a cost to be paid.

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5 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

But Millers NTC doesn't kick in until July 1

 

I don't think it'll happen but the door is open

No the door isn’t open.

 

Either Miller plays up to expectations in which case why would you trade him? Or he performs well under in which case why would any team trade for him?

 

Theres no scenario where we trade Miller unless it’s near the end of his contract. People need to accept he’s going to be a Canuck for a long time.

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6 hours ago, The_Rocket said:

Overpay

 

6 hours ago, gurn said:

The team says yes, but I'm not sure Bo does.

 

6 hours ago, Scottydzik said:

Bo will not come less then 7. The deal will be around 7.5x8 years with modified Nmc. Which leaves us with Zero cap for next year. One of Pearson Or Dickson have to go. He also needs say bye Garland and hit nice D men with that deal. The Canucks are just not good enough defensively right now.

 

6.5 x 8 is 52 million, JT got 56 million. I'd say JT is the better player. Also Kadri got 49 million & came off a season comparable to Miller's PPG wise. For a few recent reference points.

 

I imagine Bo's ask will start with a 7 while the Canucks will be low 6's. Miller's total $$$ will be a ceiling for the Canucks to work off.

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16 minutes ago, aGENT said:

This is the ugly side of the ledger from signing Miller, that people are ignoring in their elation.

 

The RD needs addressing at some point in the next year or two. SOMEBODY (not named Miller now) is getting moved, with Garland and Boeser the two most likely of the key trade pieces to do so. And they'll likely need to be packaged with someone like Rathbone, Hoglander etc... Maybe a B prospect like Karlsson or Jurmo, or a first, as well depending on the quality of said D. 

 

All of which means less depth, older average age, less cap cleared... Everything has a cost to be paid.

Every party has to have a pooper lol.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you, but if all goes well, they'll have the luxury of being able to trade a forward, dropping some cap and still have a very solid forward group.  I'm just glad they're not standing still......if they couldn't land a great RHD, they just improve the forward group further.  Either way, they're looking to improve.

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12 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

 

 

6.5 x 8 is 52 million, JT got 56 million. I'd say JT is the better player. Also Kadri got 49 million & came off a season comparable to Miller's PPG wise. For a few recent reference points.

 

I imagine Bo's ask will start with a 7 while the Canucks will be low 6's. Miller's total $$$ will be a ceiling for the Canucks to work off.

It is all a beautiful structure now, but still a work in process no doubt.  Bo is next up.

Top guys getting paid top bux; underlings getting lesser for now, with opportunity to move up.

 

I like your estimate of 6.5 x 8 and it coming in a couple mil under JT's.

Miller's total $ may be the ceiling for now but either a big time RD or Petey's new contract will probably smash that.

 

(And by then we will be free of old crap, masters of our own cap, and able to pay for top players with the cap savings and increases.)

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