Popular Post Screw Posted October 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 The guy is getting out played by Chattfield…. Yeah trade Boeser for him. wtf people. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Trebreh said: Why are we always interested in mediocre players? I don’t see anything special in Bear aside from being a RD. His only highlight this season is completely getting walked CLEANLY by Tage Thompson. we should be making smart moves like trading Brock to Anaheim for 1 year of Klingberg. That way we get rid of Brocks contract and get a good look if Klingberg still has it or if he’s washed so we don’t make the mistake of signing him long term in the offseason. Klingberg is an even bigger defensive liability than Bear. He's worse than useless. Edited October 26, 2022 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarnersHair Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, combover said: Yeah we are in desperation never good to make a trade when your down just means you’ll most likely get kicked. nobody’s helping us. subbans 33 didn’t get any Offers to keep playing he’d be easy to get to unretire. demiers and dykeyser both released from ptos could be had for cheap and possibly flipped for a pick at the TDL. bear is a rhd that it’s I don’t see much value in adding him if he costs much more than just pearson He won’t unretire to a winless team lol Those guys won’t make the team. Bear is 25. Which means he can improve. Value is a shut down RHD who let guys on the current Canucks D play there proper positions. Which will make the Canucks D stronger. Miller made Pearson, Garland and BB expandable assets. BB I hope is used to gain picks in this draft because it is deep. The other two can bring in depth that the Canucks need on D. Who knows maybe this draft BB can bring in a pick who will turn into RHD Canucks need for the future. Healthy scratch which makes him cheap. And low risk but high reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Unless they take a 7th for him no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Heard on Donnie and Dhali that it could be Bear for Hoglander, but the Canucks don't really want to trade Hoglander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, MarnersHair said: He won’t unretire to a winless team lol Those guys won’t make the team. Bear is 25. Which means he can improve. Value is a shut down RHD who let guys on the current Canucks D play there proper positions. Which will make the Canucks D stronger. Miller made Pearson, Garland and BB expandable assets. BB I hope is used to gain picks in this draft because it is deep. The other two can bring in depth that the Canucks need on D. Who knows maybe this draft BB can bring in a pick who will turn into RHD Canucks need for the future. Healthy scratch which makes him cheap. And low risk but high reward. Bear has been bounced around he’s a 5-7 he’s a heathy scratch because he’s easily replaced. Nothing will be cheap because every gm can see the desperation pearson garland and Bb might be expendable but we still should just throw them away on a depth d man. pearson for bear straight up fine but anything more is an overpayment. subban gets back into the league winless or not same as the others. They’d just be using us to try to get another shot in this league. I’d take any of those three over Bear since there all as good or better and would cost us nothing. Bears last year on an over payment contract for anything of value from us would suck. bear isn’t the answer and he’s not a top 4 d he’s a smaller Meh depth 5-7. another small dman isn’t the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, erkayloomeh said: The gain in cap is attractive in this trade. Boeser just seems like dead weight right now. its hard, I really like him as a person but its not working here. I'd love to see him go to Carolina, find his game and maybe win a cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, MarnersHair said: He won’t unretire to a winless team lol Those guys won’t make the team. Bear is 25. Which means he can improve. Value is a shut down RHD who let guys on the current Canucks D play there proper positions. Which will make the Canucks D stronger. Miller made Pearson, Garland and BB expandable assets. BB I hope is used to gain picks in this draft because it is deep. The other two can bring in depth that the Canucks need on D. Who knows maybe this draft BB can bring in a pick who will turn into RHD Canucks need for the future. Healthy scratch which makes him cheap. And low risk but high reward. Bear has been bounced around he’s a 5-7 he’s a heathy scratch because he’s easily replaced. Nothing will be cheap because every gm can see the desperation pearson garland and Bb might be expendable but we still should just throw them away on a depth d man. pearson for bear straight up fine but anything more is an overpayment. subban gets back into the league winless or not same as the others. They’d just be using us to try to get another shot in this league. I’d take any of those three over Bear since there all as good or better and would cost us nothing. Bears last year on an over payment contract for anything of value from us would suck. bear isn’t the answer and he’s not a top 4 d he’s a smaller Meh depth 5-7. another small dman isn’t the answer giving up a top 6 winger to get a bottom pair depth d lol yeah that’s how we get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Heard on Donnie and Dhali that it could be Bear for Hoglander, but the Canucks don't really want to trade Hoglander I'd be super upset if we did this. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, greenbean30 said: I'd be super upset if we did this. I agree, it would be a desperation move. I still think Hoglander has a lot of potential, not so sure about Bear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Cornering the market on depth defensemen apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I would think Hoglander would fetch a little more than Bear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I don’t know. I like Bear but what does it accomplish? We need a Top 4 defencemen unfortunately 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I would not move Hoglander in a deal around Bear. The team needs to utilize its depth at forward for a more useful defenseman, a top four. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Heard on Donnie and Dhali that it could be Bear for Hoglander, but the Canucks don't really want to trade Hoglander I should hope not. Hoglander works his ass off. We need more of that on the team, not less... That being said, if we got good value for him I'd be game for a trade. Bear isn't good value. Late/mid round pick for Bear or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 May as well have just kept Chatfield since he keeps Bear out the lineup ... Its like every day a new horrifying low for this franchise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Big pass. 2m+ 6-8 D. Just because a player holds his stick a certain way... Doesn't mean it increases skill / value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: I should hope not. Hoglander works his ass off. We need more of that on the team, not less... That being said, if we got good value for him I'd be game for a trade. Bear isn't good value. Late/mid round pick for Bear or bust. He's a cap dump that's why they are close to just waiving him. 2nd with him ill consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Considering his cap hit And how much it has cost to move money, I assume he has neutral to negative value. I had posted a trade proposal in the armchair GM. If we give up an actual asset for Bear that is just silly. Bear Nikishin 1st (which is going to be very late) or 2nd for Hoglander Mid/late round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 The only reason I would want Bear at this point is if we're sending back a cap dump and clearing some cap space. A defenseman who hasn't been dressed for a game yet this year shouldn't have any real value. Highly doubt Carolina wants a cap dump though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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