stawns Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Coconuts said: Makes more sense, I've looked into it before and remember it being higher, at least part of it they'd be carrying a caphit until 2031 and none of it under $2m a year and two of the years just under $5m, just as Petey enters his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: It’s all relative. The Cap ceiling will be much higher by then…if a buyout is necessary. There is no need to do a buyout this or next year but I do see this happening. how do you know the cap is going to be higher? JB gets a lot of flak for cap issues, but no one expected three years of flat cap, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Harold Drunken said: Rebuilds take decades???? So...20..30 years? That's quite the timeline you whipped up there. Well despite all their recent regular season success, the Maple Laffs pretty much haven't won a playoff series in two decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Gotta have someone playing top 4, even if we're bad May as well be the guy we're already paying A coach to his players "Why don't you make a good play? I can make you pay, and sit you out for 1 day. I just may" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, 250Integra said: Well despite all their recent regular season success, the Maple Laffs pretty much haven't won a playoff series in two decades. and their window is rapidly closing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, stawns said: they'd be carrying a caphit until 2031 and none of it under $2m a year and two of the years just under $5m, just as Petey enters his prime. We carry 50m of dead cap currently as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, stawns said: they'd be carrying a caphit until 2031 and none of it under $2m a year and two of the years just under $5m, just as Petey enters his prime. I'm open to retaining cap to garner assets, not so much with a lengthy buyout 3 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: A coach to his players "Why don't you make a good play? I can make you pay, and sit you out for 1 day. I just may" Does Brad May coach perchance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Bottom line is goaltending is failing the Canucks right now. They’re scoring enough to win a lot of these games. But Demko isn’t giving them a chance to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, stawns said: how do you know the cap is going to be higher? JB gets a lot of flak for cap issues, but no one expected three years of flat cap, did they? How many pandemics you think we are going to have? The Cap was stunted by a freak event. The NHL has already said it will rise more significantly. It will be up around 10M more by then. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/nhl-preparing-teams-for-sharp-salary-cap-increase-over-next-three-seasons/sn-amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, stawns said: they'd be carrying a caphit until 2031 and none of it under $2m a year and two of the years just under $5m, just as Petey enters his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: How many pandemics you think we are going to have? The Cap was stunted by a freak event. The NHL has already said it will rise more significantly. It will be up around 10M more by then. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/nhl-preparing-teams-for-sharp-salary-cap-increase-over-next-three-seasons/sn-amp/ well, we're not out of this pandemic yet. We also have a looming severe recession and possible deep civil unrest in the US. Erring on the side of caution should be the order of the day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, grandmaster said: How many pandemics you think we are going to have? The Cap was stunted by a freak event. The NHL has already said it will rise more significantly. It will be up around 10M more by then. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/nhl-preparing-teams-for-sharp-salary-cap-increase-over-next-three-seasons/sn-amp/ so rather than paying him $7m+ for the next 4 years, you'd rather pay him $2m+ (almost $5m for two of those years) for the next 9? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Bottom line is goaltending is failing the Canucks right now. They’re scoring enough to win a lot of these games. But Demko isn’t giving them a chance to win Is it Demko, or is it the team and the "structure" in front of him? If a goalie has to deal with 2-1 and 3-1 every game and the defencemen are not taking out their men and the forwards are not backchecking and the team is leaving the goalie out to dry, is it the goalie's fault? Martin also looked bad against Boston, but you could tell he was being left out to dry on several goals. Montreal is #1 on that list. Is Jake Allen really a top goalie in the NHL or is the team and its structure making him look good? EDIT: Samuel Montembeault actually has a better record than Allen and has a SV% of .930. He was a waiver wire pickup. Is he really that good or is he playing in a really good defensive system? Edited November 14, 2022 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Is it Demko, or is it the team and the "structure" in front of him? If a goalie has to deal with 2-1 and 3-1 every game and the defencemen are not taking out their men and the forwards are not backchecking and the team is leaving the goalie out to dry, is it the goalie's fault? Martin also looked bad against Boston, but you could tell he was being left out to dry on several goals. Montreal is #1 on that list. Is jake Allen really a top goalie in the NHL or is the team and its structure making him look good? Both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Bottom line is goaltending is failing the Canucks right now. They’re scoring enough to win a lot of these games. But Demko isn’t giving them a chance to win PHI is interesting. Brad Shaw made the move to reunite with his buddy Torts and Hart all of a sudden looks like the goalie he's suppose to be. Demko was in top form last year and looks lost this year. We also lost Walker so there goes our best 2 assisstant coaches and the "structure" JR has been clammoring about. Management made great moves with coaching last offseason, not so great ones for this season and it shows. Last night, first PK was Bo/Petey. Then 2nd PK Miller/Mik. No consistency like they just try different things each time to see what works. Trade Miller. Trade Boeser. Trade Pearson. Trade Myers (20mil total). Re-sign Horvat. After last game I kept thinking Miller would look good on the Bruins roster, he's better than Hall and makes them ridiculously deep for their cup run. Miller for Carlo + and we could make the cap work for this season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, stawns said: how did Rome's hit work out for the Canucks? Sigh...that's the hit that sparked the Bruins, so much for snarl and toughness. Huge hit, but ended up a turning point in that series. Boston took over from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Petey Castiglione said: PHI is interesting. Brad Shaw made the move to reunite with his buddy Torts and Hart all of a sudden looks like the goalie he's suppose to be. Demko was in top form last year and looks lost this year. We also lost Walker so there goes our best 2 assisstant coaches and the "structure" JR has been clammoring about. Management made great moves with coaching last offseason, not so great ones for this season and it shows. Last night, first PK was Bo/Petey. Then 2nd PK Miller/Mik. No consistency like they just try different things each time to see what works. Trade Miller. Trade Boeser. Trade Pearson. Trade Myers (20mil total). Re-sign Horvat. After last game I kept thinking Miller would look good on the Bruins roster, he's better than Hall and makes them ridiculously deep for their cup run. Miller for Carlo + and we could make the cap work for this season. Just wait, if they fire Bruce it could actually get worse with Mike Yeo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Both. I would say it is both as well, but not as much on Demko as some are claiming. He's having an off year but the team as a whole is making him look like an AHL goalie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Is it Demko, or is it the team and the "structure" in front of him? If a goalie has to deal with 2-1 and 3-1 every game and the defencemen are not taking out their men and the forwards are not backchecking and the team is leaving the goalie out to dry, is it the goalie's fault? Martin also looked bad against Boston, but you could tell he was being left out to dry on several goals. Montreal is #1 on that list. Is Jake Allen really a top goalie in the NHL or is the team and its structure making him look good? EDIT: Samuel Montembeault actually has a better record than Allen and has a SV% of .930. He was a waiver wire pickup. Is he really that good or is he playing in a really good defensive system? It’s both. Goals saved over expected factors in shot quality. Demko was 9th in the league 2 years ago. He was 13th last year avd he’s currently 64th this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Goal:thecup said: Also, and I really admire his grit, but Garland is a very slow skater, he cannot catch anyone or stay ahead of anyone. I think he just looks fast cuz he is so short and his legs are going like crazy. He has some good moves, but he is another little guy and imo we have too many little guys. I’d say he’s quick but not fast. same as kuz, Hoglander etc our teAm build just doesn’t cut it. We need a different / better team mix but for sure his work rate and little legs make him look quicker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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