Why don't the Canucks get lie-flat seats for their plane?

[dougieL]

Given how much travelling the team does and how important rest is, I don't understand why they don't invest in lie-flat seats for the team plane.

 

https://youtu.be/kVCLSrllCKA

 

Edit: I understand it would be expensive and probably would require a larger plane, but it seems like it would be something that could tangibly improve player performance.

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by dougieL

[Ghostsof1915]

9 minutes ago, dougieL said:

Given how much travelling the team does and how important rest is, I don't understand why they don't invest in lie-flat seats for the team plane.

 

https://youtu.be/kVCLSrllCKA

 

Edit: I understand it would be expensive and probably would require a larger plane, but it seems like it would be something that could tangibly improve player performance.

 

Don't they Charter from Air Canada? Does Air Canada have lie flat seats?

[DeNiro]

I assume that was one of their shorter flights to Seattle, Edmonton, Calgary, or San Jose.

 

That plane doesn’t look very nice.

[DrJockitch]

[dougieL]

Just now, DeNiro said:

I assume that was one of their shorter flights to Seattle, Edmonton, Calgary, or San Jose.

 

That plane doesn’t look very nice.

I thought they take the same plane on all their flights regardless of duration?

[dougieL]

I remember there was a photo of Quinn Hughes sleeping on the floor between two rows of seats. It seems that improving the plane would be such a worthy investment.

[higgyfan]

6 minutes ago, dougieL said:

I remember there was a photo of Quinn Hughes sleeping on the floor between two rows of seats. It seems that improving the plane would be such a worthy investment.

The team hasn't owned a plane in years.  They use a charter service now.

[kanucks25]

They do enough lying flat during the games.

[jyu]

Cost would be the #1 reason.

 

I wonder if any other team in the league uses a plane large enough to offer a lie flat bed for each of their players.

[iceman64]

1 hour ago, dougieL said:

Given how much travelling the team does and how important rest is, I don't understand why they don't invest in lie-flat seats for the team plane.

 

https://youtu.be/kVCLSrllCKA

 

Edit: I understand it would be expensive and probably would require a larger plane, but it seems like it would be something that could tangibly improve player performance.

 

It's called seat pitch and after the Canucks have used the plane and it gets back to regular service they'd have to take the seats out one and a time and reset the pitch (distance) from the next row and you can bet Air Canada is already giving the team a deal but not going overboard. 

 How do I know? I used to be a interior aircraft tech for a year in Kelowna, and I know they're set the way they are to already fit max capacity and anything done on a aircraft is not cheap and you know about the bottom line of money making 101 and there's no way A.C. will do that kind of thing without being paid large to do it...

 2 things you can always bet on, A.C. has the best service but the worst leg room, W.J. has the worst service but most leg room.

 Flip a coin, is what it boils down to

[I.Am.Ironman]

Cost aside, there is actually a lot of support staff that travels. By the time you throw in 25 lie flat seats, there are less normal seats available for support staff. Other than flying a hockey team around, a plane with that design would have very little uses.

[Barnstorm]

About 8 years ago the Canucks chartered a clapped out 737-400 from Flair Scarelines. Filthiest, most cramped 3 dressed up as a 4 I’ve ever seen. That lasted about 5 flights when Flair was punted for Air Canada.

[canuck73_3]

1 hour ago, kanucks25 said:

They do enough lying flat during the games.

3 game win streak grumpy. 

[Barnstorm]

Garland and Hughes could have a good snooze in the overhead bins.

[dougieL]

1 hour ago, jyu said:

Cost would be the #1 reason.

 

I wonder if any other team in the league uses a plane large enough to offer a lie flat bed for each of their players.

I think Dallas has an awesome plane.

 

https://youtu.be/ZOGBfQatjtU

[jyu]

44 minutes ago, dougieL said:

I think Dallas has an awesome plane.

 

https://youtu.be/ZOGBfQatjtU

And that was fifteen years ago!

[awalk]

This is a cool idea. Never would have thought of this.

[Alflives]

Definitely the club should have beds on the planes.  And a room for the trainers to do physio and massages and stuff.  

Come on Aquilini.  This is a great idea.  Do it! 

[dougieL]

I just wonder if it might be a worthy investment given how hard our travel schedule is year after year. If you add up the extra hours of better quality sleep in more comfortable positions over 6 months, year after year, it may amount to something nontrivial. In the salary cap era, every team needs to find competitive advantages elsewhere, and I think this is somewhat of an obvious one. Might also be a selling point when attracting free agents.

[flat land fish]

4 hours ago, jyu said:

Cost would be the #1 reason.

 

I wonder if any other team in the league uses a plane large enough to offer a lie flat bed for each of their players.

In the long run cost wouldn’t be a big factor as private jets planes don’t meaningfully depreciate the way other types of vehicles have.  There would be more carrying costs than chartering all the time but no question more comfort could be had for the players.