Mustard Tiger Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Management screwed this one up lol. Miller shoulda been traded. Both is the only correct answer. Fix things by changing nothing isn't a plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofaith Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: Alvin says he had been watching Beau and Raty for years. Whooppiiiieddiiii doooooo so what keeps failing to get D m’en we need bunch of monkeys running this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, tan said: agreed. should be at least a D prospect + 1st I'm happy with Raty as the main piece, but they should have gotten a dman back, not a small winger. I'm not sure, but I think they've already got one of those 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kenny Blankenship Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 I never understand when fans wish great success to the player that gets traded away and instantly predict failure for the players coming in. As a fan base we’re generally way too sentimental towards the players. Why is it so hard to look at these trades with a level head? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roberts Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) that interview provided a lot of new info: Edited January 31, 2023 by Roberts 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Alright now the biggest question now is how the hell are we gonna improve the defence core lol Better start drafting I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, KyGuy123 said: We just traded Horvat so we could sign Pettersson. No, you are unclear on the concept. We traded Horvat BECAUSE we signed Boeser and Mikheyev. We could have afforded both Pettersson and Horvat if we avoided signing the two above. Pettersson signing is good till Spring 2024... plenty of time to adjust the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: Alvin says he had been watching Beau and Raty for years. Is this watching with the same eyeglasses as the ones used to watch Stillman? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, stawns said: A 5'11, 185 lb winger who doesn't score, heading to free agency (at that point)........realistically, what is a team going to give for that? Not much. Or our forward group and coaching style of RT provides better numbers on Beau and we get a second pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Alvin says he had been watching Beau and Raty for years. But still butchers names lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 51 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Ok; I'm with ya. Out with the knives. Not a Canuck! Bo Sucks! Not a Canuck, not your fault, now you're a Busteroo Bansai!! (C'mon back Heff.) Heff's still here Just changed they Avetar to Crackie logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Devron said: Alright now the biggest question now is how the hell are we gonna improve the defence core lol Better start drafting I guess That'll start paying off in 2028 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: But he can't remember if he tried to trade up last draft Ya I heard that too! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Islanders will probably miss the playoffs. The more I think about it, I’m not sure why they made this trade. We will likely get a 15th overall pick to go along with our own 5-7th overall pick. That’s a pretty good way to restock the pool. And if the Isles somehow sink deeper in the standings, that signals bigger problem with their roster and they could bottom out next season giving us a top 10 pick? Or dare I dream, a top 5 pick? Hey come to think of it, wasn’t it Lou who traded Bo to us for Schneids 10 years ago? So he’s just taking Bo back so that we can continue Corey Schneider trade tree. How nice of him! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Now that I have had time to digest this trade I think it's alright. It's not a home run but its not a strike out either. The problem is the return isn't 'sexy' in a hockey sense. The biggest name is going the other way but we got 3 decent assets for a guy who could have left for nothing. Sure it would have been nice to get a defenceman but I don't think the trades are done by a long shot. Management knows the defence is a tire fire and they still have many tradable assets. I'm willing to bet statistically speaking that this is Bo's career year. His shooting % is 22%, while his career average is 14%. In other words he can't possibly keep this up. Let someone else pay him for these types of numbers and be left holding the bag when he can't replicate them. Edited January 31, 2023 by nuckin_futz 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J-Dizzle Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 If it makes anyone feel better I'm listening to an islander's podcast and the guys are losing their minds over how stupid this trade was for them 3 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, stawns said: That'll start paying off in 2028 Pretty much. Petey now has to play defence too I guess lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dazzle said: I usually agree with you, but I don't think this is a good trade at all. Horvat was a 9th overall pick at the time. Since then, he's improved a lot. Now if we're looking at it from that standpoint, the 1st round pick this year is protected, which means the Islanders have the leverage. If say they win the Stanley Cup next year, we'll be getting the 31st overall (worst case scenario). That's not a good return at all. Raty is doing well in the AHL. So let's say he's comparable to Hoglander in that respect (Hoglander is not a C, I'm aware). That's a B+ prospect, at best. He may do well, or he might not. Raty dropped a lot in his draft year because scouts didn't think he was that good. Beauvillier is a winger - a redundant piece that doesn't necessarily help us in the future. The only time this trade would be good is if the Islanders miss the playoffs next year and are at the very bottom of the standings. There's too much uncertainty in this trade for a surefire talent like Horvat. This is a bad return for the Canucks, IMO, especially if Horvat is re-signed long term with the Islanders at a good cap hit. Canucks lose again. The Isles are not winning the Cup next year. I'd bet my entire life savings on it. Raty has top 6 upside, he has immense skills, and he isn't small. B+ prospect sounds fair. He has A prospect upside, but would need a lot to go right to reach it. I'd rate Hogs lower but that's just me. Beauvillier was 100% a cap move. One of the better ones, he's only locked up for next season. I am fine with him. That 1st rounder though. There isn't a team in the Horvat running that would have offered us a better 1st round pick, which is why I say it's the best value 1st. Detroit was never gonna give it to us, and if people think they would have without protection are lost. The Isles are literally banking their life on Horvat breathing life into their scoring. I don't think they are making the playoffs this year, I also don't think they're drafting top 12. But even if they are. They have no cap to make moves this summer. So if they weren't good enough to make the playoffs this year, and were bad enough to draft top 10. Why would they be an improved team next year? That was us last summer, except worse. Cause we actually added pieces in the offseason and still sucked worse than last season. If they lose out this year, draft top 10. We are getting a lottery pick next year. Bo would literally have to be a 50 goal scorer going forward to move the pendulum for that team. Possible? I guess. Highly improbable though. He is having the year of his life playing in a contract year. Can he do it consistently is the key. Also, there's no guarantee they even can keep him, especially if they lose out like you say to move that 1st to next year. Very few of the naysayers are bringing up the fact he's a UFA. If he wasn't taking a friendly contract for us. The team he essentially grew up with, started a family with. Why would he re-sign with a just as bad team (again, going on the idea they draft top 12 this year) that he doesn't really have ties to? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: Or our forward group and coaching style of RT provides better numbers on Beau and we get a second pick! I wouldn't be surprised if PA insisted on a second and Lou convinced him to take a protected 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Zerofaith said: Whooppiiiieddiiii doooooo so what keeps failing to get D m’en we need bunch of monkeys running this team Interesting take. How many teams offer young dmen for 27 year old pending UFAs? Now how many will offer young dmen for 23 1sts and top prospects? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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