Provost Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, R3aL said: Parayko age contract and skill level aren’t a fit for us or our competitive window hard pass from me You aren't paying attention. Maybe Parayko's age shouldn't be a fit for our competitive window... but it appears that the team management doesn't agree. They want to be competitive now. I don't like it, but if that is the plan then we need to rebuild the defence quickly. It is a lot easier to fill out the forwards than the defence. We could conceivably have a roster next year of something like: Kuzmenko-Petterson-Beauvillier Mikhevev - XX - Podkolzin McGinn - Raty - Kravstov Joshua - Aman - Lazar Karlsson-Hoglander Hughes-Parayko Graves/Petterson (from Pittsburgh) - Hronek OEL - Livingstone Dermott - Schenn That is a team that is still going to score some goals but will also keep them out of the net a lot better. You can try Raty or Kravtsov in the 2/3 C spots or go find someone else. You can also just wait for one of the high end C that we are in line to draft who will be ready between next season to two years depending on who you get (Bedard, Fantelli, Carlsson, Smith). One more offseason of work after next season and you could possibly round out that team to be a young one on the way up again and competing for a playoff spot. It is a little shocking how we can still fill out all our wingers with decent players even removing Miller, Garland, Boeser, and Pearson. It shows you where our depth is. Edited March 2, 2023 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, coryberg said: Myers contract is buyout proof. Would cost us $5333000 in cap space. Meaning we lose cap space even if we replace him with a league minimum player. After his bonus is paid we will actually get a pick for him. Agreed...after his $5 million bonus is paid out this summer his base salary is only another $1 million. As soon as the bonus is paid out he should become an asset for our team (Trades, picks or prospects) next season. $6 million cap hit but only $ 1 mllion in actual salary...teams looking for a rental, playoff depth or to stay above the cap floor could come calling IMO Edited March 2, 2023 by Blitz-Pix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: Agreed...after his $5 million bonus is paid out this summer his base salary is only another $1 million. As soon as the bonus is paid out he should become an asset for our team (Trades, picks or prospects) next season. $6 million cap hit but only $ 1 mllion in actual salary...teams looking for a rental, playoff depth or to stay above the cap floor could come calling IMO Or Arizona to to get to the cap floor without paying for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Blitz-Pix said: Agreed...after his $5 million bonus is paid out this summer his base salary is only another $1 million. As soon as the bonus is paid out he should become an asset for the our team (Trades, picks or prospects) next season. $6 million cap hit but only $ 1 mllion in actual salary...teams looking for a rental, playoff depth or to stay abouve the cap floor should come calling IMO Believe it when I see it. Arizona wants to spend absolute minimum but would want assets to take on cap. Arizona can’t be the dumping ground for every bad asset and there is a line of teams trying to dump bad contracts. There aren’t really any other cap floor teams anymore. Myers ends the season with us next year and goes to UFA. I just don’t think contending teams are looking for his type of high action at both ends hockey, they want stability not chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Provost said: You aren't paying attention. Maybe Parayko's age shouldn't be a fit for our competitive window... but it appears that the team management doesn't agree. They want to be competitive now. I don't like it, but if that is the plan then we need to rebuild the defence quickly. It is a lot easier to fill out the forwards than the defence. We could conceivably have a roster next year of something like: Kuzmenko-Petterson-Beauvillier Mikhevev - XX - Podkolzin McGinn - Raty - Kravstov Joshua - Aman - Lazar Karlsson-Hoglander Hughes-Parayko Graves/Petterson (from Pittsburgh) - Hronek OEL - Livingstone Dermott - Schenn That is a team that is still going to score some goals but will also keep them out of the net a lot better. You can try Raty or Kravtsov in the 2/3 C spots or go find someone else. You can also just wait for one of the high end C that we are in line to draft who will be ready between next season to two years depending on who you get (Bedard, Fantelli, Carlsson, Smith). One more offseason of work after next season and you could possibly round out that team to be a young one on the way up again and competing for a playoff spot. It is a little shocking how we can still fill out all our wingers with decent players even removing Miller, Garland, Boeser, and Pearson. It shows you where our depth is. I am paying attention.. and Parayko isn’t good anymore. have you watched him play? and he’s only going to get worse. we aren’t going to acquire players 30 next year that are showing regression and especially the back injury he had Hronek is 25 entering prime that isn’t the same at all In my eyes and they’ve said they are going to target 25 year olds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, stawns said: Were you not one of the posyers who, for months, shouted down anyone saying big trades, like miller, needed to be made? Yes, Horvat, Boeser, Garland. I even said the NYI pick would be in play. I never said Miller would be traded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroSen Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, mll said: The Canucks are cap compliant and don't need to get under this season as long as they don't exceed their authorised upper limit. They are over because they are using LTIR. Every player counts against the cap including those on IR or LTIR. By going on LTIR it allows the team to exceed the salary cap up to the LTIR player's cap hit so that he can be replaced on the roster. Teams are always cap compliant. Every transaction is registered with the NHL's Central Registry to make sure that teams are following all rules and the cap. The regular season cap is calculated over the regular season (Oct-April). Off-season accounting is different as every player is back on the roster and it can be tedious to keep track. CapFriendly only shows regular season accounting. Awesome, thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Hughes Bear Pettersson Hronek is a sneaky good top 4. Bear isn’t a top 4 d-man IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Boudrias said: Bear isn’t a top 4 d-man IMHO. He's been playing like one. I'm not looking at how he played in other places, I'm looking at how he has been playing here the last couple of months before getting injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Believe it when I see it. Arizona wants to spend absolute minimum but would want assets to take on cap. Arizona can’t be the dumping ground for every bad asset and there is a line of teams trying to dump bad contracts. There aren’t really any other cap floor teams anymore. Myers ends the season with us next year and goes to UFA. I just don’t think contending teams are looking for his type of high action at both ends hockey, they want stability not chaos. Perhaps...however, he has the ability to eat up alot of minutes (if needed) and on a playoff contender he's probably playing with a better suited defense partner. I'm not suggesting he's on your top pairing (Ideally he's your 4th-6th D-man) I suspect, some GM is probably going to drool over his size and what's left on his contract (less than 400K near TDL) and offer us something. Hell, there were rumours of teams sniffing around leading up this TDL, albeit with salary rention or cap coming back I believe. IMO we get something for him, how much? who knows...but something is better than nothing after the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) I wonder if there are any GM's out there that will give a first plus an expiring contract(s) for OEL and Garland? Sounds reasonable right? Edit - adding the GIF because it seems some people really don't understand that I am joking Edited March 2, 2023 by GB5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Alflives said: We have four big dollar contracts that need to go before we can turn the ship. OEL and Garland are summer buyouts. Myers is traded at the 2024 TDL. Boeser will be traded with retention and sugar. Got to clear the decks of these guys. Yup. This is the course I hope we're on. The OEL buyout scares me, but I still think it's the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blitz-Pix Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, GB5 said: I wonder if there are any GM's out there that will give a first plus an expiring contract(s) for OEL and Garland? Sounds reasonable right? Yes, his name is Jim Benning and he is no longer employed in the NHL. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Any new rumours involving the canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Any new rumours involving the canucks? Probably just an Alvin presser saying how he's content with this team, How they picked up a superstar D and will continue to build brick by brick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes, Horvat, Boeser, Garland. I even said the NYI pick would be in play. I never said Miller would be traded... Ok Darren Dreger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said: Ok Darren Dreger.... Pfft, that's .......... he's a closet laff fan... You're talking to @Elias Pettersson! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 All this dog of a team is doing is chasing tail. and acting surprised when it gets bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, GB5 said: I wonder if there are any GM's out there that will give a first plus an expiring contract(s) for OEL and Garland? Sounds reasonable right? You can't be serious. Are you seriously asking that? We need to give away at minimum 2 first to move them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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