Elias Pettersson Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Agreed. The cautious approach is paramount regarding Hronek. Throwing money at a player well before you need to seems to be this management's Achilles heel. Waiting until he's actually joined the team and had a decent run of games where he's acclimated himself makes sense as far as making a judgment call on his future worth contractually. If we had waited a few more weeks to sign Kuzmenko, Milstein would have wanted $8 million. At the end of the day, Allvin went all in with Hronek, he is Allvin's guy. He has scouted him since his days in Pittsburgh. He doesn't need to wait another year to know what he has. Hronek could put up 60 points with this team. Allvin will sign him this summer to a 7-8 year extension. Probably a 7x8 deal is my guess. Edited March 16, 2023 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Is Hronek done for the season? I think he will be on the road trip... https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/canucks-filip-hronek-might-return-in-couple-weeks/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If we had waited a few more weeks to sign Kuzmenko, Milstein would have wanted $8 million. At the end of the day, Allvin went all in with Hronek, he is Allvin's guy. He has scouted him since his days in Pittsburgh. He doesn't need to wait another year to know what he has. Hronek could put up 60 points with this team. Allvin will sign him this summer to a 7-8 year extension. Probably a 7x8 deal is my guess. Could put up 60 points. Could not mesh at all with the team. Could mesh well. Signing a player to a multi year contract when they have barely been able to develop chemistry with the team is a questionable move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Could put up 60 points. Could not mesh at all with the team. Could mesh well. Signing a player to a multi year contract when they have barely been able to develop chemistry with the team is a questionable move. True. But the alternative is to have him play out his contract next year and then he is an RFA. I don't think Allvin is going to let that happen. Same with Petey. He will sign them both to 8-year contract extensions this summer... Edited March 16, 2023 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNucks Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. But the alternative is to have him play out his contract next year and then he is an RFA. I don't think Allvin is going to let that happen. Same with Petey. He will sign them both to 8-year contract extensions this summer... true that, as long as we can afford them in the cap. which means dropping a few millar demko, others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNucks Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. But the alternative is to have him play out his contract next year and then he is an RFA. I don't think Allvin is going to let that happen. Same with Petey. He will sign them both to 8-year contract extensions this summer... be real dude, look at our current cap hit. these are all good moves but the reason we dont have this great rh defense is explained on cap friendly and our daily and current cap hit. We need OEL to have more than a sprain to get the room to have him play. OEL needs his ankle to turn into a LTIR like Pearson's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Why do people panic about stuff that rarely happens? McDonagh isn't gonna sign! Boeser won't settle for less than his QO! Edited March 16, 2023 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. But the alternative is to have him play out his contract next year and then he is an RFA. I don't think Allvin is going to let that happen. Same with Petey. He will sign them both to 8-year contract extensions this summer... For sure. I get where you and others are coming from. AiLvin has made a firm decision by trading for him. That decision will include a contract extension. I just hope it works out, being a Canucks fan and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 hours ago, EastCoastNucks said: be real dude, look at our current cap hit. these are all good moves but the reason we dont have this great rh defense is explained on cap friendly and our daily and current cap hit. We need OEL to have more than a sprain to get the room to have him play. OEL needs his ankle to turn into a LTIR like Pearson's hand. This guy will make sure he's got more than a sprain. He doesn't come cheap, but he gets the job done, brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: This guy will make sure he's got more than a sprain. He doesn't come cheap, but he gets the job done, brah. I think after Pearson management is gonna take a more cautious approach with injuries. Seems evident with how they handled Demko, they took their time with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: I think after Pearson management is gonna take a more cautious approach with injuries. Seems evident with how they handled Demko, they took their time with him. Demko looks great. Seeing him return to form makes the tank driving off into the horizon a bit easier to take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: For sure. I get where you and others are coming from. AiLvin has made a firm decision by trading for him. That decision will include a contract extension. I just hope it works out, being a Canucks fan and all. Maybe we are suffering from PTBD? (Post Traumatic Benning Disorder) Hronek is a heck of a good player. This isn’t Gudbranson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: Demko looks great. Seeing him return to form makes the tank driving off into the horizon a bit easier to take. Management and Medical did well with managing his injury, especially after Pearson. They've learned, grown and rectified themselves. Sucks Pearson had to suffer for them to do that though. I want Bedard but onus is not on players to tank so it is what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Maybe we are suffering from PTBD? (Post Traumatic Benning Disorder) Hronek is a heck of a good player. This isn’t Gudbranson. Hronek is a more well-rounded player. Gudbranson is a solid third pairing, physical menace who, when put in that role, excels. It's when he's tasked with more positional play that he struggles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Hronek is a more well-rounded player. Gudbranson is a solid third pairing, physical menace who, when put in that role, excels. It's when he's tasked with more positional play that he struggles. Yup. And Benning paid Mccaan (a recent first) and a second for Guddy. Too much for what Guddy brings. Hronek will anchor our second pairing. He’s worth the price paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 5:39 PM, HKSR said: It saves Francesco Aquilini $9.6m. It gives us dead cap for 8 years. https://canucksarmy.com/news/oliver-ekman-larsson-buyout-only-way-canucks-re-tool-defence another argument for buying OEL out and saving cap to be used elsewhere, not saving FA money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Update on his injury ? when can he play? skating with team ? I wonder the reason why we have not heard much is cuz we maybe can’t activate him due to cap reasons? that or injury is more serious :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, steviewonder20 said: https://canucksarmy.com/news/oliver-ekman-larsson-buyout-only-way-canucks-re-tool-defence another argument for buying OEL out and saving cap to be used elsewhere, not saving FA money. I already replied in the other thread started by @Elias Pettersson You can find it under Canucks Talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Gudbranson is a solid third pairing, physical menace who, when put in that role, excels. It's when he's tasked with more positional play that he struggles. It's even more evident when he is paid like a top 4. If guddy made a million a year everyone would love him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, coryberg said: It's even more evident when he is paid like a top 4. If guddy made a million a year everyone would love him. For sure. When Guddy was a Canuck and Tom Wilson tried to mug him, and Wilson got his ass handed to him, it was great. He was best here when he was paired with Edler who helped to manage his gaffes. I remember when those two were paired together during a game against Boston, and they neutralized the top line of Sharthand, Panzersnack, and Bergeron. Put Gudbranson with Hutton or Pouliot, and the wheels fell right off. Paying him $3-4 M isn't commiserate to what he brings. Edited March 16, 2023 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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