coryberg Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, BlastPast said: Looks like the Islanders' 1st is trending towards the 17-19 range. May be a disappointing result for those hoping it would roll over and become unprotected next year. Those red wings fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, coryberg said: Simashev is a russian born 6'4 smooth skating defensive defenseman with a good outlet pass... but LHD. Bonk is Radek Bonks son (former 3rd overall who played for Ottawa and Montreal). He's a Canadian kid, 6'1 RHD 2 way dman playing for the London Knights. Both players are mainly known for their defensive accumen, I find that to be a total bonus. They could each become Quinn and Hroneks partners in a few years time, would fill a few big voids with cheap ELC's. I'd be more inclined to draft Oliver Bonk then, especially if he's a righty. Your right, he could very well slot into being Quinn's partner. Where is Bonk projected to go? First rounder? or second? Cause if it's the second, we don't have one this year right? didn't it go to Detroit for Hronek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I'd be more inclined to draft Oliver Bonk then, especially if he's a righty. Your right, he could very well slot into being Quinn's partner. Where is Bonk projected to go? First rounder? or second? Cause if it's the second, we don't have one this year right? didn't it go to Detroit for Hronek? Bonk is ranked by most to go near the end of the 1st round. I was looking at him if we decided to move down and collect extra picks. All depends who is on the board when our pick comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, coryberg said: Bonk is ranked by most to go near the end of the 1st round. I was looking at him if we decided to move down and collect extra picks. All depends who is on the board when our pick comes up. Interesting. I'd be down to making a pick to drafting him if we could get an extra pick. Tough to give up that first rounder, though, going to be a good player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I'll admit... this trade terrified me at first (thought the Islander's pick could be a top 5 next year... especially with Barzal out) I am RELIEVED that the Isles made the playoffs... it makes this trade SO much better! Now to cheer for them to make it to the 3rd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 10:47 PM, N4ZZY said: I'd be more inclined to draft Oliver Bonk then, especially if he's a righty. Your right, he could very well slot into being Quinn's partner. Where is Bonk projected to go? First rounder? or second? Cause if it's the second, we don't have one this year right? didn't it go to Detroit for Hronek? Low first for Bonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Makaramel MacKhiato said: I'll admit... this trade terrified me at first (thought the Islander's pick could be a top 5 next year... especially with Barzal out) I am RELIEVED that the Isles made the playoffs... it makes this trade SO much better! Now to cheer for them to make it to the 3rd round Do you get terrified easily ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 This is a win-win trade for the Canucks, a good gamble and they won the gamble and it's a mid-first round pick with potential to be a 29th first round pick if they make to the Eastern Conference Final. If Hronek bounces back and have an injury free season, it will be a huge win and could decide on what to do with him if next contract becomes too expensive and can flip for much better return than Detroit or have him with us for a long haul. It all depends on his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I love how this trade instantly made us go from cheering against the Isles to cheering for them. Often when a team trades their captain, fans will cheer for that team to see the player succeed, and while we are cheering for the Isles, I sure doubt its out of support for Horvat. I have to admit though, its weird because I liked him. We made the right move 100% trading him as he was over rated and not worth the contract nor the return we got, but he was a good person and it is weird to cheer against him personally like I do. I can recognize its strictly out of wanting the move to be proven as the right move, but it still sits weird. I hope he can be a consistent 30 goal 50 point guy, but NO more lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Tower102 said: I love how this trade instantly made us go from cheering against the Isles to cheering for them. Often when a team trades their captain, fans will cheer for that team to see the player succeed, and while we are cheering for the Isles, I sure doubt its out of support for Horvat. I have to admit though, its weird because I liked him. We made the right move 100% trading him as he was over rated and not worth the contract nor the return we got, but he was a good person and it is weird to cheer against him personally like I do. I can recognize its strictly out of wanting the move to be proven as the right move, but it still sits weird. I hope he can be a consistent 30 goal 50 point guy, but NO more lol. I dunno why people pick watch after we trade it. It literally doesn't effect us. I don't really care where it lands, who they take, and how they develop. Cause there are no guarantees we would have done the same thing or had the same success with that pick they do. And vice versa. All that matters to me is what we do with the 4th rounder we got and how Hronek fits with us. The trade doesn't get bad for us if that 1st rounder pans out. It gets bad for us if Hronek doesn't pan out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: I dunno why people pick watch after we trade it. It literally doesn't effect us. I don't really care where it lands, who they take, and how they develop. Cause there are no guarantees we would have done the same thing or had the same success with that pick they do. And vice versa. All that matters to me is what we do with the 4th rounder we got and how Hronek fits with us. The trade doesn't get bad for us if that 1st rounder pans out. It gets bad for us if Hronek doesn't pan out. I don't prospect watch after they take a pick for the reasons you said, but I do think the trade looks MUCH different if the pick was a 12 this year vs 26 this year. That is a HUGE value gap, heck if it became a top 5 next year. You think the Sens trade with Colorado hurt more after the pick became a 4th overall opposed to if it was a mid-late first. I don't view that one as Byram vs ?, but 4th overall vs ?. The Sens don't make that trade if they know its a 4th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, N7Nucks said: I dunno why people pick watch after we trade it. It literally doesn't effect us. I don't really care where it lands, who they take, and how they develop. Cause there are no guarantees we would have done the same thing or had the same success with that pick they do. And vice versa. All that matters to me is what we do with the 4th rounder we got and how Hronek fits with us. The trade doesn't get bad for us if that 1st rounder pans out. It gets bad for us if Hronek doesn't pan out. like the whole Rasmus Andersson thing, yeah it sucks a bit the Flames got a good player with our pick but what if we kept it and drafted Graham Knott, Julius Nattinen or Jeremy Bracco? Pick watching and dwelling after a trade is pointless because no one knows who we had at that those spots, and drafting in hindsight is equally pointless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 6 hours ago, coolboarder said: This is a win-win trade for the Canucks, a good gamble and they won the gamble and it's a mid-first round pick with potential to be a 29th first round pick if they make to the Eastern Conference Final. If Hronek bounces back and have an injury free season, it will be a huge win and could decide on what to do with him if next contract becomes too expensive and can flip for much better return than Detroit or have him with us for a long haul. It all depends on his next contract. Wonder if the Canucks can get a younger RHD for Hronek if they decide to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 9 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: like the whole Rasmus Andersson thing, yeah it sucks a bit the Flames got a good player with our pick but what if we kept it and drafted Graham Knott, Julius Nattinen or Jeremy Bracco? Pick watching and dwelling after a trade is pointless because no one knows who we had at that those spots, and drafting in hindsight is equally pointless. Yip, it's the Canucks. Absolutely we would of passed on Rasmus. This franchise fails miserably at drafting and developing D. It's the main reason we have no cup, imho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 4:53 AM, Makaramel MacKhiato said: I'll admit... this trade terrified me at first (thought the Islander's pick could be a top 5 next year... especially with Barzal out) I am RELIEVED that the Isles made the playoffs... it makes this trade SO much better! Now to cheer for them to make it to the 3rd round If it's a good draft you will still get a very good player late in the 1st round. Look at where Patrrnak landed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 13 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: like the whole Rasmus Andersson thing, yeah it sucks a bit the Flames got a good player with our pick but what if we kept it and drafted Graham Knott, Julius Nattinen or Jeremy Bracco? Pick watching and dwelling after a trade is pointless because no one knows who we had at that those spots, and drafting in hindsight is equally pointless. Spot on... nobody knows for sure, how they'll pan out. If they knew, we would have drafted Pastrnak instead of JV.... hindsight is a great thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Naslund Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 5 hours ago, spook007 said: Spot on... nobody knows for sure, how they'll pan out. If they knew, we would have drafted Pastrnak instead of JV.... hindsight is a great thing. We actually picked Jared McCann one pick ahead of David Pastrnak. McCann did pot 40 goals this year though I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Just now, .Naslund said: We actually picked Jared McCann one pick ahead of David Pastrnak. McCann did pot 40 goals this year though I guess. In a redraft Pastrnak goes top 3-4... But McCann wasn't a bad pick neither (rumours of entitlement aside)... He actually started to slowly produce fairly quickly, but was still traded 3 times, for whatever reason. Too bad we didn't trade Jake instead Jared to Florida for Guddy.... It would have made the trade less painful... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 7 hours ago, iinatcc said: If it's a good draft you will still get a very good player late in the 1st round. Look at where Patrrnak landed Right in front of scherbak, goldobin and ho-sang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, coryberg said: Right in front of scherbak, goldobin and ho-sang. or do some good scouting and nab a Brayden Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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