NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, ronthecivil said: Vegas played money puck from day one. They are close to 4 million under the cap right now. They invested heavily in scouting so that their moves were all good. Our track record, not so much. Come on now. There's only so much Ron Delorme can do. He's responsible for amateur scouting in Western Canada *AND* amateur scouting in Sweden. That a crapload of travelling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, grandmaster said: Hang in there buddy. We will win. AI predicted that. Year 2028. Mark it in your calendars It's lying to us. Skynet takes over in 2025. But like I said. I am not being negative. It just is a real possibility. Some team, in some sport will have that title. The team that just never won a championship. I'll still hang in there, I am a Cauncks fan, but it's been for 41 year of viewing for me and we rarely show any real potential. Only sour part for me is the direction and management of the league. They will not get anymore money out of me for a variety of reasons. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 hours ago, ilduce39 said: For Vegas at least they aren’t getting any younger as well. They’ll still be out of our league next year - but after that I think it’s a lot less certain. Agree with you. I think this coming season has to be a big leap forward to show that we aren't as far off. They've run out of runway for bad seasons, imo. This group - that's being built upon - has to get it done now. At the very least show everyone next season that we aren't too far away. It's their window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 hours ago, bishopshodan said: What if we never win? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 8:33 AM, iceman64 said: Watch... We win four in a row to start the season and everyone will be planning the parade.. lose 4 and tear it down, trade everyone.. same thing different year... Well, after the last decade, I don't blame folks having frayed nerves and some bipolar attitudes these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 8:33 AM, iceman64 said: Watch... We win four in a row to start the season and everyone will be planning the parade.. lose 4 and tear it down, trade everyone.. same thing different year... This was an actual quote from a Chicago Cubs fan at the start of the 2016 season before they finally won the world series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: This was an actual quote from a Chicago Cubs fan at the start of the 2016 season before they finally won the world series. Steve Bartman can now enjoy life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bartman_incident#:~:text=Cubs fan Steve Bartman was,and reached for the ball. I'm not a Cubs fan I'm glad there a 'good ending' to his story. Edited June 14, 2023 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Maddogy said: This team won’t win the Cup. Just enjoy the small wins. Set low expectations and enjoy the ride. I believe there is another universe where the Canucks did win the cup but Aliens invaded at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, iinatcc said: I believe there is another universe where the Canucks did win the cup but Aliens invaded at the same time. I’ve been there it’s not pretty ,if Elon tries selling u a cheap ticket don’t do it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, chon derry said: I’ve been there it’s not pretty ,if Elon tries selling u a cheap ticket don’t do it Weird how the FaceApp makes their necks all veiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Weird how the FaceApp makes their necks all veiny. They are Martian Canucks maybe it’s not their necks ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Well, after the last decade, I don't blame folks having frayed nerves and some bipolar attitudes these days. You mean like after the last 4 decades plus right? However there is a ton of stupid bipolar fans in Vancouver STILL screaming for the one and done scenario and there lies the stupidity, like that's ever worked before? NOT! Wish someone could fire the bush league media where it is still pushed for it and probably always will, some of the lame brains media "finally" got it that trying to buy a roster and having no depth isn't going to win _hit EVER but still pushing to get more forwards every draft and trade, so now we have a logjam at forward and lousy D.. Yeah fun stuff.. sorry I don't have the same patience for stupidity as you do. I spent way too long putting up with it and moved on, will call out anyone's bull_hit any day of the week, especially the stupidity that comes in the form of the media especially but it truly is "the blind leading the stupid" It's getting old btw.. just saying... Edited June 14, 2023 by iceman64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Crossbar said: This was an actual quote from a Chicago Cubs fan at the start of the 2016 season before they finally won the world series. Remind me to cross my fingers! Honestly though, wish we could have traded half the roster, if not more in 2013 and started to build a team for once but MG had most of it all locked up long term. Meh.. such be the life of a nux fan right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Agree with you. I think this coming season has to be a big leap forward to show that we aren't as far off. They've run out of runway for bad seasons, imo. This group - that's being built upon - has to get it done now. At the very least show everyone next season that we aren't too far away. It's their window. I think people underestimate the parity in the league. We’re a good game from Demko away from beating anyone. I wouldn’t bet on that holding up over a 7 game series, let alone multiple series, but this roster can also score like crazy. Learning team defence / transition is the biggest key and it’s also something we can improve on without adding players. So… I don’t feel silly thinking we could have a pretty good squad next year. I’m more worried about that fragile loser mentality that’s been sinking in the last few seasons. But we jettisoned the coach and captain. Hopefully that helps. Edited June 14, 2023 by ilduce39 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I think people underestimate the parity in the league. We’re a good game from Demko away from beating anyone. I wouldn’t bet on that holding up over a 7 game series, let alone multiple series, but this roster can also score like crazy. Learning team defence / transition is the biggest key and it’s also something we can improve on without adding players. So… I don’t feel silly thinking we could have a pretty good squad next year. I’m more worried about that fragile loser mentality that’s been sinking in the last few seasons. But we jettisoned the coach and captain. Hopefully that helps. They were 6-1 against Seattle not sure about against vegas but I do know it was respectable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, ilduce39 said: I think people underestimate the parity in the league. We’re a good game from Demko away from beating anyone. I wouldn’t bet on that holding up over a 7 game series, let alone multiple series, but this roster can also score like crazy. Learning team defence / transition is the biggest key and it’s also something we can improve on without adding players. So… I don’t feel silly thinking we could have a pretty good squad next year. I’m more worried about that fragile loser mentality that’s been sinking in the last few seasons. But we jettisoned the coach and captain. Hopefully that helps. Well we need a cpl of short term contracts and fill those gaps with our own developed picks so we stay under cap and have a good team BUT we still have to picks coming in so odds work for us that we have a few developing that can cover injuries as well.. and keep it competitive on top of it. Ummm that fragile broken actually started in 2012/13 after Boston put us down, and did they ever, not just for the Stanley cup, for years of being fragile except for the odd run when we went on winning streaks here and there but injuries would happen and we'd go on losing streaks too. But we never had any depth and that's still our main concern, can't win a cup without it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 hours ago, ilduce39 said: I think people underestimate the parity in the league. We’re a good game from Demko away from beating anyone. I wouldn’t bet on that holding up over a 7 game series, let alone multiple series, but this roster can also score like crazy. Learning team defence / transition is the biggest key and it’s also something we can improve on without adding players. So… I don’t feel silly thinking we could have a pretty good squad next year. I’m more worried about that fragile loser mentality that’s been sinking in the last few seasons. But we jettisoned the coach and captain. Hopefully that helps. Again, I agree, ilduce ... especially the Demko part. Aside from last season, with bad goaltending, we've beaten a lot of top teams on Demko's back when he was in top form. It's like no one even notices that. I'm not expecting us to go deep into playoffs but the goal next season should be getting there and taking the next step, playing at our best. Next offseason we'll have more cap to upgrade to take another step. That's really how it needs to go. Now we're starting to fill the other holes along with a massive culture change. That should take care of the fragile loser mentality. I mean, Allvin and JR noticed it immediately. Tocchet and staff won't tolerate it. These guys know what it takes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 16 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Weird how the FaceApp makes their necks all veiny. An expansion team from Mars will likely win the CUP before Vancouver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Boudrias said: An expansion team from Mars will likely win the CUP before Vancouver. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I don't know that we will ever win a cup without first embracing a complete rebuild. We've lost a decade trying to retool, and we are a capped out team that has some real garbage contracts and a defense that isn't going to take us very far. We should be learning lessons from Las Vegas, tbh. They've managed to acquire Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, etc. They're able to cut bait with players to get better players. They simply don't tolerate losing. I will say that trading Bo was a step in the right direction. Now get rid of Miller, OEL, Boesser, and Garland and we have the start of a real rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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