Warhippy Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Edited June 23, 2023 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 They're going to have some tough decisions to make in a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 So Petey could realistically be under 10 per in his extension. 9.5 x 8 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, grandmaster said: So Petey could realistically be under 10 per in his extension. 9.5 x 8 years meier is 2 years older, a winger, and provides substantially less offense. there's a lot more than a $1 mil difference. try $3 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Pretty good deal if thats the cap, not many players like him in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Not bad. None of the NJ core players are making double digit salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, grandmaster said: So Petey could realistically be under 10 per in his extension. 9.5 x 8 years His agent said they were looking in the range of Barzal money which was 9.15. Factor in some appreciation of cap and that would be in the 9.5 - 10 million range. If you look at Tkachuk at 9.5 with 109 points, I would say that 9.5 is probably about right, factoring in home town discount. Remember, they can't even really talk about this until July 1st, but if they could do something anywhere between 9.5 and 10 for 8 seasons, I'd just lock it in, he's worth spending that type of money with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, tas said: meier is 2 years older, a winger, and provides substantially less offense. there's a lot more than a $1 mil difference. try $3 mil. Meier was one of NJD's best player against NYR while not having a single point. He got under their skin and threw them off their game. There have been games in NJD where he doesn't get on the scoresheet but the goals don't happen without him because he's at the net screening the goalie or distracting the Ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) NJD convincing players to take reasonable deals vs trying to get every crumb they can get. Edited June 23, 2023 by mll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Wonder if Canucks would look at trading for RFA McLeod & rights to Graves. See if we can convince Graves to sign a two-year ‘Gold Star deal’ 2 years x $5.5M, with an opportunity to resign another deal after the cap jumps up? McLeod seems high risk with the Hockey Canada investigation, but have seen a case made for him in a few articles recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Wonder if Canucks would look at trading for RFA McLeod & rights to Graves. See if we can convince Graves to sign a two-year ‘Gold Star deal’ 2 years x $5.5M, with an opportunity to resign another deal after the cap jumps up? McLeod seems high risk with the Hockey Canada investigation, but have seen a case made for him in a few articles recently They are trying to extend Graves and McLeod played C3/C4 for them. McLeod is RFA so would expect them to get a deal done rather than create a hole in their lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, mll said: Meier was one of NJD's best player against NYR while not having a single point. He got under their skin and threw them off their game. There have been games in NJD where he doesn't get on the scoresheet but the goals don't happen without him because he's at the net screening the goalie or distracting the Ds. and petey is a top nhl two-way forward. there's a chasm between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 So Horvat set the market for everyone else, go figure. The 8.5x8 contract will officially forever be known as the BO special... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, mll said: They are trying to extend Graves and McLeod played C3/C4 for them. McLeod is RFA so would expect them to get a deal done rather than create a hole in their lineup. NJD have $23m in cap space with 14 players signed. They will need a minimum of $17 million to re-sign Graves, Meier and McLeod. They don't have the cap space to sign all 3. They also need to re-sign Bahl. Are they planning to trade Bahl then to re-sign Graves? I'm assuming Luke Hughes is on the team next season and probably Nemec too. They also need a goalie if they want to compete for a cup. Not sure it's smart to load up on everything else and then hope and pray Schmid is the guy in the playoffs going for the cup... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So Horvat set the market for everyone else, go figure. The 8.5x8 contract will officially forever be known as the BO special... Meier had a 10M qualifying offer. With NJD taking him to arbitration to by-pass that qualifying offer he was going to get at least 1 year at 8.5M in arbitration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So Horvat set the market for everyone else, go figure. The 8.5x8 contract will officially forever be known as the BO special... Waiting for the Petey Special..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Waiting for the Petey Special..... 11.5x8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: NJD have $23m in cap space with 14 players signed. They will need a minimum of $17 million to re-sign Graves, Meier and McLeod. They don't have the cap space to sign all 3. They also need to re-sign Bahl. Are they planning to trade Bahl then to re-sign Graves? I'm assuming Luke Hughes is on the team next season and probably Nemec too. They also need a goalie if they want to compete for a cup. Not sure it's smart to load up on everything else and then hope and pray Schmid is the guy in the playoffs going for the cup... Bahl not going to cost all that much just yet unless they go longer term. Graves is asking for too much right now and he might end up UFA. McLeod is RFA - no reason for them to trade him. NJD still such a young team. This was the 1st taste of the playoffs for so many players and they still have to figure out how to be effective in the post-season. Going all in is premature. Schmid might just be their starter when they go all in but probably needs another year in Utica. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mll said: NJD convincing players to take reasonable deals vs trying to get every crumb they can get. This was the key to the Canucks last winning team. A bunch of guys making half a million or more below full market value adds up to a couple of other high end players. Conversely, a bunch of guys making a million more than they are worth kills your chance to be competitive really quickly. If a team is spending to the cap, it seems like like players should realize that, rather than wonder why they didn’t win and sign $1 million contracts at the end of their careers in vain hopes for a Cup. The difference between $60 million and $70 million in career earnings isn’t going to change their lives or their kids’ lives very much. Spending your career on a team that is a perennial winner, rather than bottom feeder certainly does change your life. Edited June 23, 2023 by Provost 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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