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#301 RunningWild

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:11 PM

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Doan visited both the Rangers and the Philadelphia Flyers when he was in New York for labour meetings. Reportedly, he has plans to visit Montreal.

So, where is Vancouver on his priority list?

He hasn’t visited Vancouver but that’s because he’s so familiar with the city,” Bross said. “He knows all about it, the team, the history, and what it’s like to live there. So does his wife.
“It hasn’t been a big priority to visit there.”



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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

If we don't sign Doan, what about Jason Arnott, perhaps for the 3rd line center?? He's big and experienced. The question is, what does he have left in the tank?


I'd rather have an improving Max Lapierre center the 3rd than waste $3M on a declining Arnott.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:58 PM

I'd rather have an improving Max Lapierre center the 3rd than waste $3M on a declining Arnott.

then i'm incredibly glad you're not an nhl general manager.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

then i'm incredibly glad you're not an nhl general manager.


and spending 3 million on arnott would be a good idea?
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

Doan visiting Montreal eh, maybe I can chase him down and ask him to sign with Van!
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:16 PM

Doan visiting Montreal eh, maybe I can chase him down and ask him to sign with Van!

Get on it!
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:58 PM

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:02 PM

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and spending 3 million on arnott would be a good idea?


for a year or two? sure. the guy's 6'5" 220lbs with a cup ring and had 17 goals last year. it's only been 2 or 3 years since he scored at a 60 point clip. he has almost 1000 career points. he's been a captain in the league. the canucks are terribly shallow at center ice. kesler won't be 100% until december. if mason raymond took a pay cut to get $2.2 and you're willing to give doan $5 for 5 years, then arnott is a hell of a deal at $3 for a year or two.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

for a year or two? sure. the guy's 6'5" 220lbs with a cup ring and had 17 goals last year. he's been a captain in the league. the canucks are terribly shallow at center ice. kesler won't be 100% until december.


keslers spot should he not start the season, will most likely be Schroeder's and then we will have manny and lappy as natural centers. Manny isnt going anywhere, and him playing 4th line wing makes a lot less sense than 3rd C. With that said I would be all for getting a different 3rd line C, but Id rather it be someone young and cheap yet still effective. Im not saying we should or will get matthias, but he could be a good option with 1 year remaining on his ELC
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

honestly i'd like 6-8 of the canucks forwards to be natural centers. look at team canada 2010, the 2011 boston bruins, 2012 kings, etc.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea.

I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:36 AM

A lot of things appear to be hinged on what happens with Doan.

Where he signs will affect what the Canucks try to get in the assumed Luongo deal, and it will affect what kind of cap space the Canucks have to sign any any other free agents (such as Arnott). Hopefully he signs soon so Gillis can get on with the rest of the off-season wheelings and dealings.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:50 AM

Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea.

I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer.



Is 6 million worth it or better to pay someone 4 million via a upgrade trade and have to give up some of your players to do it? I like 6 million lose no current players.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:25 AM


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:50 AM

keslers spot should he not start the season, will most likely be Schroeder's and then we will have manny and lappy as natural centers. Manny isnt going anywhere, and him playing 4th line wing makes a lot less sense than 3rd C. With that said I would be all for getting a different 3rd line C, but Id rather it be someone young and cheap yet still effective. Im not saying we should or will get matthias, but he could be a good option with 1 year remaining on his ELC

And you are happy with this?
Schroeder as our second line C with 0 (zero) NHL games played? Behind him M & L who are 4th liners at best?
Again. Are you happy with this? This has to be the worst C depth in the league.
At minimum this team needs another top 6 play-maker and hopefully MG is aware of that. Last year, even with Kesler we had problems scoring. Unless we upgrade our top 6 Fowards we'll struggle to reach playoffs.

What I'm reading here Doan $6 million/ 4 years? $5 million/ 5 years?
He is 35 not 25! Everything more than $4 million/ 2 years is over-overpayment!
I would like to have him on this team but after a playmaker!
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:23 AM

Not sure if posted yet, article:
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:43 AM

honestly i'd like 6-8 of the canucks forwards to be natural centers. look at team canada 2010, the 2011 boston bruins, 2012 kings, etc.


Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle.

Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position.

What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth.

If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now.

At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:19 AM

for a year or two? sure. the guy's 6'5" 220lbs with a cup ring and had 17 goals last year. it's only been 2 or 3 years since he scored at a 60 point clip. he has almost 1000 career points. he's been a captain in the league. the canucks are terribly shallow at center ice. kesler won't be 100% until december. if mason raymond took a pay cut to get $2.2 and you're willing to give doan $5 for 5 years, then arnott is a hell of a deal at $3 for a year or two.


I really hope MG is considering trying to sign Arnott to a 1 year deal. He'd be an offensive upgrade from what we had in Pahlsson, he's a big body who will add toughness, and he could take 2nd line center duties temporarily if Kesler isn't back in time for the start of the season.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:22 AM

At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual.


I really don't think you understand what a power forward is.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:37 AM

Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle.

Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position.

What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth.

If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now.

At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:46 AM

Isn't it sad that if Gary didn't have his knickers in a knot about Balsillie the Yote's would probably be in Hamilton right now. Making the league millions, and saving the owners grief and money.

Shouldn't the owners at least be extremely choked how he's handled this, and how he'd rather let questionable ownership than someone that actually has money?
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:03 AM

then i'm incredibly glad you're not an nhl general manager.


Exactly as you are a nobody hiding behind the internet.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle.

Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position.

What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth.

If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now.

At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual.


Um, Cody Hodgson was an absolute non-factor in our cup run and Manny Malhotra was injured during that cup run and played in 6 games in the Stanley Cup finals and he did nothing, we got that close to winning the cup with the current centre depth that we have so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:06 AM

keslers spot should he not start the season, will most likely be Schroeder's and then we will have manny and lappy as natural centers. Manny isnt going anywhere, and him playing 4th line wing makes a lot less sense than 3rd C. With that said I would be all for getting a different 3rd line C, but Id rather it be someone young and cheap yet still effective. Im not saying we should or will get matthias, but he could be a good option with 1 year remaining on his ELC

Manny of Lappy should not be playing on the third line. We need someone else no matter be Mattias, Arnott, or someone else.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:20 AM

And you are happy with this?
Schroeder as our second line C with 0 (zero) NHL games played? Behind him M & L who are 4th liners at best?
Again. Are you happy with this? This has to be the worst C depth in the league.
At minimum this team needs another top 6 play-maker and hopefully MG is aware of that. Last year, even with Kesler we had problems scoring. Unless we upgrade our top 6 Fowards we'll struggle to reach playoffs.

What I'm reading here Doan $6 million/ 4 years? $5 million/ 5 years?
He is 35 not 25! Everything more than $4 million/ 2 years is over-overpayment!
I would like to have him on this team but after a playmaker!

You probably won't like the rumour from the Hockey Hearsay article on Sportsnet. Detroit is out of the race for Doan. They believe some team(s) in East has made a 4 year 30 million dollar offer....I like Shane Doan but a 7.5 million cap hit? That's a spicy meatball!

http://www.sportsnet...hockey_hearsay/
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:41 AM

Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle.

Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position.

What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth.

If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now.

At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual.

We need a better top 6 winger and a center, if we don't get both we're done.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:49 AM

Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea.

I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer.


I can't believe you actually believe what you are saying!!!!MATS SUNDIN 10 mill a season and Doan is as good as he was if not better cause he's a power forward which we need to help Booth and Kassian know how to play better!!!Doan I'd give 6 to 7 mill for 4 years and get some of our players better, hes a natural leader and would fit well in this team.We would be a better team for the four years then time to rebuild!!!Once Doan signs here which I hope and Luo is traded not for prospects but for more help now we would be instant cup contender which we are now but would be way better and what other teams have done would not be good enough to beat us in what we have done!!!
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

You probably won't like the rumour from the Hockey Hearsay article on Sportsnet.  Detroit is out of the race for Doan.  They believe some team(s) in East has made a 4 year 30 million dollar offer....I like Shane Doan but a 7.5 million cap hit?   That's a spicy meatball!

http://www.sportsnet...hockey_hearsay/


That rumour has been out there for a while now. I doubt that Gillis would throw that kind of money at Shane Doan, so we'll all have to hope that the rumour is false, or that Doan has other priorities that take precedent over money.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:29 AM

What I'm reading here Doan $6 million/ 4 years? $5 million/ 5 years?
He is 35 not 25! Everything more than $4 million/ 2 years is over-overpayment!
I would like to have him on this team but after a playmaker!


Are you high? He is paid that much because he is worth that much. Captain in Phoenix, big body, goes to dirty areas, good leader, and is willing stand up for teammates. Yes, 7.5m for 4 years would be an overpayment but I would be running if we got him for 6m for 3 years.

He adds so much to the team and our window is right now. He is exactly what we need.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:36 AM

Im never one to reply or post in fact this may be my second post of all time Im not entirely sure but you can all take this with a grain of salt. Today is the Kamloops Blazers Alumni Golf Tournament and ofcourse Shane Doan is attending. This is obviously not ground breaking news. The interesting tidbit is that Mike Gillis is partaking in the tournament and supposedly as a guest of Shane Doans. Again read into it what you like. It may mean nothing at all or could be something to look forward to. Just a little something to add to the discussion.
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