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Poll: Dirtiest Player (11 member(s) have cast votes)

Who is the dirtiest player ever

  1. Mark Messier (0 votes [0.00%])

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  2. Claude Lemieux (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. Chris Simon (4 votes [36.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  4. Eddie Shore (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  5. Sprague Cleghorn (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  6. Billy Smith (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Matt Cooke (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  8. Ulf Samuelsson (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  9. Ken Linseman (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  10. Darius Kasparitis (0 votes [0.00%])

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  11. Ron Hextall (0 votes [0.00%])

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  12. Chris Chelios (0 votes [0.00%])

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  13. Dale Hunter (0 votes [0.00%])

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  14. Brad Marchand (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  15. Steve Downie (0 votes [0.00%])

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

Sean Avery HAS to be on the list.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

Funny how Matt Cooke is now over looked, but he was a dirty player.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 03:35 PM

Chris Simon. The guy was completely loony.




Kicked out of the NHL . Lol That's the dirtiest player forsure
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

Sean Avery HAS to be on the list.


He was more the Derpiest player then the dirtiest
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I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:19 PM

Brad ratface Marchand or Matt Cooke


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

Brad Marchand will be up there with all of these guys by the end of his career.

He has only played two full seasons and he already has a bigger history than most of the guys in the league.

Messier was dirty too, more so than he is credited for, it just goes by the way side since he was such a good player.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

Not Playing - Claude Lemieux

Playing - Raffi Torres. Matt Cooke is up there, but he's seemed to be better (at last he was last season). Torres is dangerous and has no remorse for his actions.


I don't think Torres is really all that dirty either.

He may have dirty hits, but I don't think he tries to hurt people like Cooke, Marchand and other's do, he's just overpowering. He hurts alot of people because he is so big and has such good skating ability for his size, so his hits are often more devastating then he intended them to be. He does have trouble knowing when not to hit someone, but as I said he isn't dirty in the sense that he goes out and looks to hurt people and be dirty.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

Sean Avery HAS to be on the list.


I don't think he was all that dirty, he was just a coward.

He doesn't have nearly the track record of some of these other's guys being brought up.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

Chris Simon
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

Marchment in my opinion. What a disgrace of a human being. He didn't have an ounce of honor and was on the ice with only one thing on his mind... To see how seriously he can injure someone.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:21 PM

Billy or Ulf.

Dishonorable mention: Messier and ratface.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

simon for sure
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:30 PM

Chris Simon has to take the crown for dirtiest player ever the 2 incidents plus his other suspensions its surprising he didn't injure more players the way he lost it

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On November 8, 1997, during a game against the Edmonton Oilers, Simon was suspended three games after calling Edmonton forward Mike Grier (racial slur) [3]
Simon flew to Toronto to apologize to Grier.[4] Grier and Simon were later teammates for a brief time in 2002 with the Washington Capitals.

Simon was suspended for one game in a 2000 playoff series against Pittsburgh for cross checking Peter Popovic across the throat on April 13, 2000.

He was given two-game suspensions once on April 5, 2001 for elbowing Anders Eriksson,
and twice in 2004 for cross checking Tampa Bay's Ruslan Fedotenko and then jumping on and punching him, and for kneeing Dallas's Sergei Zubov.[2]

guy had more than a couple screws loose in the head

Edited by captaincanuck88, 22 November 2012 - 06:31 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

Chris Simon. The guy was completely loony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esETGHljQi4


Orr, Simon, Hollweg, Asham, Rachunek, Mara....how was that NOT a full on donnybrook?

I guess Hollweg was lying on his stomach, probably unsure of his whereabouts, but still.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:57 PM

"Marchment has been suspended for deliberate attempts to injure other players numerous times throughout his playing career. He was suspended 13 times by the league in his first 12 NHL seasons and his hits were blamed for injuries suffered by Mike Modano, Joe Nieuwendyk, Greg Adams, Mike Gartner, Kevin Dineen, Peter Zezel, Pavel Bure, Sami Salo, Paul Kariya, Wendel Clark and Martin Ručínský. On February 3, 1995, while the Toronto Maple Leafs were visiting Marchment's Oilers, a hit by Marchment partially collapsed one of Gartner's lungs; the severely injured Gartner had to return to Toronto by train.

Marchment always stuck in my mind as someone who was out to injure the other team's best players. Just look at the list of names mentioned above. His hits were always like a high-speed stealth attack. His victims rarely even knew he was coming.

Simon was certainly dirty, but his deeds seemed to be more of a retaliatory nature. He gets checked hard, so he swings back etc.

Carcillo has potential. I think it's just a matter of time before he ends someone's career.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:08 PM

"Marchment has been suspended for deliberate attempts to injure other players numerous times throughout his playing career. He was suspended 13 times by the league in his first 12 NHL seasons and his hits were blamed for injuries suffered by Mike Modano, Joe Nieuwendyk, Greg Adams, Mike Gartner, Kevin Dineen, Peter Zezel, Pavel Bure, Sami Salo, Paul Kariya, Wendel Clark and Martin Ručínský. On February 3, 1995, while the Toronto Maple Leafs were visiting Marchment's Oilers, a hit by Marchment partially collapsed one of Gartner's lungs; the severely injured Gartner had to return to Toronto by train.

Marchment always stuck in my mind as someone who was out to injure the other team's best players. Just look at the list of names mentioned above. His hits were always like a high-speed stealth attack. His victims rarely even knew he was coming.

Simon was certainly dirty, but his deeds seemed to be more of a retaliatory nature. He gets checked hard, so he swings back etc.

Carcillo has potential. I think it's just a matter of time before he ends someone's career.


Yeah Marchment belongs in the discussion for sure - so does Ulf Samuelsson.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

and who could forget Bobby Clarke?
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

while acceptable back then, im going to go with scott stevens. he destroyed a few careers including vancouver's own paul kariya





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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:17 AM

while acceptable back then, im going to go with scott stevens. he destroyed a few careers including vancouver's own paul kariya

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Scott Stevens wasn't dirty. Haha
Scott Stevens was just a tank of a man. He just devestated players that got in his way, Nothing dirty about it . :rolleyes:
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:35 AM

STEVE MOORE.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

STEVE MOORE.

It's funny that you bring up Moore since there are so many posts naming Marty McSorely, essentially for a single dirty play, yet no-one has mentioned Todd Bertuzzi....

Also, it's true that Mark Messier played a dirty game, however, it's also true that his game was similar to Gordie Howe's. I see the prevailing CDC Anti-Messier sentiment as a contributing factor to his being mentioned so often.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

It's funny that you bring up Moore since there are so many posts naming Marty McSorely, essentially for a single dirty play, yet no-one has mentioned Todd Bertuzzi....

Also, it's true that Mark Messier played a dirty game, however, it's also true that his game was similar to Gordie Howe's. I see the prevailing CDC Anti-Messier sentiment as a contributing factor to his being mentioned so often.


Actually Steve Moore was a Cooke type of player. Keep in mind he had run St. Louis (who was then the leagues leading scorer) from behind a few games previous to his headhunt on Nasland. He was trying to earn a permanent roster spot from tony "tomahawk" Granato and headhunting seemed his way to do it. He is not the dirtiest player on this list because his career was cut short but it looked like he was working at it.

Bert belongs on the list if McSorely does and both do not as I stated earlier it's not right to define their full careers on a single incident.

As for Messier? 1 week after the NHL was purged of goonery forever buy making an example of Bertuzzi, Messier speared a younger player in the groin to which it was stated by the NHL "That's a vet showing a rookie who he can and cannot hit in this league"

Edited by TimberWolf, 23 November 2012 - 09:26 AM.

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I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:14 PM

Scott Stevens wasn't dirty. Haha
Scott Stevens was just a tank of a man. He just devestated players that got in his way, Nothing dirty about it . :rolleyes:


Stevens deliberately targeted his opponents heads on many occasions. Their heads may have been lowered but that's no excuse. He'd be facing multiple suspensions if he was playing in today's game.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

Chris Simon, Sean Avery, and Matt Cooke are my choices.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:05 PM

Stevens deliberately targeted his opponents heads on many occasions. Their heads may have been lowered but that's no excuse. He'd be facing multiple suspensions if he was playing in today's game.


Haha yeah I agree I was just being sarcastic thats why I put this face ' :rolleyes: ' . He's a career killer, and a great defenceman.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:15 PM

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:57 PM

Actually Steve Moore was a Cooke type of player. Keep in mind he had run St. Louis (who was then the leagues leading scorer) from behind a few games previous to his headhunt on Nasland. He was trying to earn a permanent roster spot from tony "tomahawk" Granato and headhunting seemed his way to do it. He is not the dirtiest player on this list because his career was cut short but it looked like he was working at it.

Bert belongs on the list if McSorely does and both do not as I stated earlier it's not right to define their full careers on a single incident.

As for Messier? 1 week after the NHL was purged of goonery forever buy making an example of Bertuzzi, Messier speared a younger player in the groin to which it was stated by the NHL "That's a vet showing a rookie who he can and cannot hit in this league"


Some of the worst spears I have ever seen came from that guy.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

Sprague Cleghorn:

Sprague was never popular in Ottawa, even when he played there. In one game against Montreal Cleghorn viciously attacked Newsy Lalonde with his stick, reportedly drawing the ire of police although no charges were ever drawn.

Whenever he played against former Ottawa teammates, Cleghonr often instigated brawls and cheap shots as if he seemed to have a personal vendetta against certain players. In fact, in one playoff game, after Cleghorn viciously cross checked Lionel Hitchmen, his own team fined and suspended him for the rest of the playoffs. The decision was even handed down before the NHL had time to rule on it.

Tired of Cleghorn's ruthlessness and undisciplined play, the Senators decided on releasing the most feared man in hockey in 1921. The league assigned him to the Hamilton Tigers but the Montreal Canadiens desperately wanted the local native as a drawing card for home games. They executed one of the first trades in league history, as Montreal sent Harry Mummery, Cully Wilson and Amos Arbour for Cleghorn and defenseman Bill Couture.

Cleghorn was very upset with Ottawa for letting him go, and was determined to get revenge the only way he knew how. In one of the first clashes between Cleghorn's new team versus his old, reports claimed prior to the game that Sprague would settle the score once and for all with Ottawa for dropping him after he helped them win the 1920 Stanley Cup. He would go on to viciously injure 4 Senator players - Cy Denneny, Frank Nighbor, Tommy Gorman and Eddie Gerard. Cleghorn's disgraceful conduct in resulted police action and even league movement to ban him from the NHL for life. Reportedly two teams would not agree to the ban.

Despite such actions, Cleghorn continually produced results, including helping the Habs win their first Stanley Cup as a member of the National Hockey League.

After a stint with the Boston Bruins, Cleghorn, once described by an NHL official as "a disgrace," retired in 1928. His numbers were unarguably great - 84 goals and 123 points in 256 games as a defenseman. His PIMs total was 489.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:34 AM

Bobby Clarke probably.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

If you want to go far back enough, I would probably say Eddie Shore. Claude Lemieux comes pretty close too.
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