Philthy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 This is probably the beginning of a crack down on a larger scale. http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-f-horcoff-suspended-20-games-for-peds-1.428881 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Anaheim Ducks forward Shawn Horcoff has been suspended 20 games by the National Hockey League for violating the terms of the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program. The NHL made the announcement Tuesday. As mandated by the collective bargaining agreement, the suspension is accompanied by mandatory referral to the NHL/NHLPA Program for Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health for evaluation and possible treatment. Based on his average annual salary, Horcoff will forfeit $357,526.88. The NHL said it would have no further comment on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Looks like they're going to be in need of a scoring fwd. Bye bye, Vrbata! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He's still in the league? Clearly he needs a better supplier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Expensive roid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Looks like they're going to be in need of a scoring fwd. Bye bye, Vrbata! Not that I disagree, but is Horcoff still considered a scoring forward? I'm wondering how he's on PED's when he's awful. But maybe just to stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: Not that I disagree, but is Horcoff still considered a scoring forward? I'm wondering how he's on PED's when he's awful. But maybe just to stay in the league. Um, no. Maybe depth forward at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Half of LA Kings team is next!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: Not that I disagree, but is Horcoff still considered a scoring forward? I'm wondering how he's on PED's when he's awful. But maybe just to stay in the league. Perhaps they'd like Burr to replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 i often wonder about this...for a player like this, or when someone who's been an average player for a long time makes a sudden unexpected improvement...i guess i just wonder how much the league really enforces this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, nzan said: i often wonder about this...for a player like this, or when someone who's been an average player for a long time makes a sudden unexpected improvement...i guess i just wonder how much the league really enforces this. I don't see any improvement... lol And by the looks of the stats he wasn't using them correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Gary Valk said on 1040 over 1/3 of the guys were on PED's when he was playing. I bet it's even more now. Testing is so lax that you really have to be stupid or extremely unlucky to get caught. NHL can do maximum 2 tests per year. With players making millions they hire professionals to set up their cycles and use drugs that can't be detected. With $10's of millions on the line for each player, not hard to understand why they'd do it. I really don't care if they do it. Why not let them all do it, better entertainment for me if players perform at higher levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I don't think they do it necessarily for the performance enhancing effects but more for injury recovery. Where you are bound to see more usage is in the minors where guys are trying to improve and get into the NHL. But it's debatable how much better you can be at hockey with PEDs. Most hockey players are tall and lean. Adding extra bulk can slow you down. Sure you might get a slightly harder shot or be stronger in the corners but is that really worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Visp said: Anaheim Ducks forward Shawn Horcoff has been suspended 20 games by the National Hockey League for violating the terms of the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program. The NHL made the announcement Tuesday. As mandated by the collective bargaining agreement, the suspension is accompanied by mandatory referral to the NHL/NHLPA Program for Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health for evaluation and possible treatment. Based on his average annual salary, Horcoff will forfeit $357,526.88. The NHL said it would have no further comment on the matter. Thank you. What is wrong with people creating threads that they can't include an excerpt of the article their posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, RonMexico said: I don't think they do it necessarily for the performance enhancing effects but more for injury recovery. Where you are bound to see more usage is in the minors where guys are trying to improve and get into the NHL. But it's debatable how much better you can be at hockey with PEDs. Most hockey players are tall and lean. Adding extra bulk can slow you down. Sure you might get a slightly harder shot or be stronger in the corners but is that really worth it? Completely ignorant (not being rude, but ignorant in true sense of the word) Hockey players are amongst the best candidates for PED's. Just about everything about the sport, the way it's played, the stop and go, the speed required, core strength required, the endurance, the physicality and recovery time. All those things could be vastly improved with PED's. There are hundreds of different types of PED's. Very few of them are used for bulking, ie DBol or Test. Drugs are stacked and used in cycles to accomplish different goals. You could be a marathon runner or body builder, there are drugs for either of you. Different drugs do different things. Do you think cross country cyclists need to bulk up? Yet cycling is full of doping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, elvis15 said: Thank you. What is wrong with people creating threads that they can't include an excerpt of the article their posting... Elvis, do you know if this NHL testing program includes performance enhancers and HGH? Was Horcoff caught using recreational drugs, or cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Give the guy a break... Juices and only puts up 10 points in 45 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Milan Lucic...you're next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Completely ignorant (not being rude, but ignorant in true sense of the word) Hockey players are amongst the best candidates for PED's. Just about everything about the sport, the way it's played, the stop and go, the speed required, core strength required, the endurance, the physicality and recovery time. All those things could be vastly improved with PED's. There are hundreds of different types of PED's. Very few of them are used for bulking, ie DBol or Test. Drugs are stacked and used in cycles to accomplish different goals. You could be a marathon runner or body builder, there are drugs for either of you. Different drugs do different things. Do you think cross country cyclists need to bulk up? Yet cycling is full of doping. Plus, the unnatural aggression some PEDs create too. How about putting a guy like Vey on the Ben Johnson diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Personally, with suspension, monetary loss and public shaming, I can not see the risk worth the reward when playing.. But if injured to ensure a full and strong recovery from an injury, to try to eliminate its reoccurrence.. . Thats very debatable. Espescially to a vet who is 30ish trying to extend the longevity of his career and earnings.. Your options are out on the street? or back on the ice? To think that they caught him is amazing, i dont think testing is at random, but rather, scheduled.. And testing one player can be in the thousands of dollars. Just throwing this out there, but maybe in some sports, that have a high physical level of contact.. some of the drugs and meds should be debated on their pro's & con's for healing or recovery. Im not speaking of a total acceptance for "performance enhancement",. But perhaps a partial acceptance for full recovery and healing. Its obvious this is taking place to some extent already.. Maybe bringing it out into the open regulates and controls it.. Possibly raising the funds for even better testing and control.. ?? Should make for some i n t e r e s t i n g opinions ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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