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16 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

We will only be able to protect 3 D, I understand, and spots will be taken by those with NTCs.  That might include Edler and Tanev - if we do not trade either of them.  In addition, based on his play, Hutton should be protected.  That creates a squeeze.

NMC's only.

 

I doubt we protect Edler over youth and Tanev's likely gone by then.

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I think too many people on this board are worried about the "What if's" of the expansion draft that will likely happen in either June 2020 or 2021.

 

You can't build a team on panicking this far out about an event where we will lose one player.

 

Trust that Benning is also aware of this and will have a plan (as he did with Vegas), to limit our exposure.

 

My guess is that Benning will offer something on the draft pick side, in exchange for taking the person that we want them to take.

 

I don't get the impression that Benning holds players back, based on what he may have to deal with in the future, he makes plans and takes steps to limit the impact on the team.

 

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1 hour ago, VegasCanuck said:

I think too many people on this board are worried about the "What if's" of the expansion draft that will likely happen in either June 2020 or 2021.

 

You can't build a team on panicking this far out about an event where we will lose one player.

 

Trust that Benning is also aware of this and will have a plan (as he did with Vegas), to limit our exposure.

 

My guess is that Benning will offer something on the draft pick side, in exchange for taking the person that we want them to take.

 

I don't get the impression that Benning holds players back, based on what he may have to deal with in the future, he makes plans and takes steps to limit the impact on the team.

 

*cough* *cough* Eriksson

 

I can easily see a scenario where we deal Eriksson with his high cap hit yet low salary and kick in a 3rd round pick or something.

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Just now, RetroCanuck said:

*cough* *cough* Eriksson

 

I can easily see a scenario where we deal Eriksson with his high cap hit yet low salary and kick in a 3rd round pick or something.

That's what I've been saying as well in other threads. Offer Seattle a 2nd round pick and possibly either another late round pick the following year, or a B level prospect to help fill out their farm team, in exchange for taking Eriksson. He'll be a nice defensive fit for them for a few years, will bring really good defensive habits and some offensive and play making upside. Eats up 6 million in Cap, but at that point will only cost Seattle 3 or 4 million per in actual spend.

 

Fair offer!

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On 1/17/2019 at 11:51 AM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Biech has said basically the same thing as me, regarding Hughes and expansion, in several previous articles:

 

https://theathletic.com/702802/2018/12/10/projecting-who-the-canucks-will-protect-in-the-seattle-expansion-draft-version-1-0/

 

https://theathletic.com/639815/2018/11/09/taking-measure-of-how-the-canucks-might-approach-the-expansion-draft/

 

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/03/27/gaudette-dahlen-and-the-expansion-draft/

 

Basically, a professional year is 10 or more NHL games when you’re talking about 18 and 19 year olds.

 

But for age 20 and over, a professional year is a single game or more played in a pro league while under contract for that season.

 

Hughes, if signed to a 2018-19 SPC (ELC) in 2019, will be considered “age 20” because he turns 20 in calendar 2019.

 

Age here is determined using rules that are similar to those used to determine slide eligibility. Since Hughes will turn 20 before the end of calendar 2019, he would be deemed “age 20” for any contract signed in 2019. And so he’d be an “age 20 or older player,” when it comes to expansion and professional years, should he sign and play at the end of the 2018-19 season (even though he’d only be 19 years old at the time).

 

Should Hughes appear in a single pro game this seaon, while under contract, then 2018-19 will be considered his first professional year.

 

This is why Biech has Hughes on the protected list for his mock expansion draft. Assuming he signs at the end of this season, and gets a few games played in Vancouver, then he’ll be expansion draft eligible and need to be protected.

 

We know from the last expansion draft when players like Kyle Baun (and age 20 or over player) were eligible for the draft. Baun burned his first professional year from playing only 3 games for Chicago at the end of 2014-15, after leaving college to go pro.

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The first article has a note at the top with correction, rectifying the mistake that was made and pointing to an article in the summer.

 

Second one was in regards to 2020 draft, not 2021

 

Gaudette was already 21 when he signed his contract - not 19

 

Baun was 22 when he signed his contract

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On 11/24/2018 at 5:32 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yeah, it’s weird. Apparently the game is officially scored a tie if teams remains deadlocked and then no one scores during the first OT. Then, they play a 2nd OT at 3v3, with the winner gaining an extra point in the standings. But for some reason, the 3v3 scoring doesn’t count in the individual player stats. 

 

Anyway, none of this changes the fact that Hughes had two assists. He just doesn’t get full official credit for the second one.

 

He’s back at it tonight, for game two of the weekender versus Wisconsin. 

 

Audio broadcast is here:

https://mgoblue.com/watch/?Live=249&type=Archive

 

Video is paid/subscription on BTN (Big Ten Network).

 

Wisconsin currently leading 1-0.

 

Michigan with lots of possession, lots of shot attempts, and nothing to show for it yet. They had 4 chances on the PP, and couldn’t score. Second period just getting underway.

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Shiftynifty said:

Anyone know why QH’s OT points in the NCAA did not count while Madden’s OT goal counted?

A quote from @SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME from last year.

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13 hours ago, aGENT said:

NMC's only.

 

I doubt we protect Edler over youth and Tanev's likely gone by then.

Edler has an NMC, at least now, you think he would re-sign without one?  Tanev is healthy and playing well, his trade value may never again be this high, but I think the Canucks are thinking playoffs.  February will be the month that determines whether we can make it, I believe - three sets of four games in six nights - most of the month on the road - that situation killed us earlier in the year.  If we survive February, we make the playoffs, if the Orcas flounder, time for some player movement.

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1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said:

Edler has an NMC, at least now, you think he would re-sign without one?  Tanev is healthy and playing well, his trade value may never again be this high, but I think the Canucks are thinking playoffs.  February will be the month that determines whether we can make it, I believe - three sets of four games in six nights - most of the month on the road - that situation killed us earlier in the year.  If we survive February, we make the playoffs, if the Orcas flounder, time for some player movement.

No, he doesn't. He only has an NTC.

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4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

Edler has an NMC, at least now, you think he would re-sign without one?  Tanev is healthy and playing well, his trade value may never again be this high, but I think the Canucks are thinking playoffs.  February will be the month that determines whether we can make it, I believe - three sets of four games in six nights - most of the month on the road - that situation killed us earlier in the year.  If we survive February, we make the playoffs, if the Orcas flounder, time for some player movement.

As @The Great Canucks noted, he has an NTC, not a NMC.

 

Whether Tanev is moved or not this deadline, IMO, he's headed back East when he turns UFA.

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10 hours ago, Shiftynifty said:

Anyone know why QH’s OT points in the NCAA did not count while Madden’s OT goal counted?

Madden’s OT goal didn’t count to his point total

 

 

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9 minutes ago, The_Rocket said:

Madden’s OT goal didn’t count to his point total

 

 

It counted on the NCAA stats page and also HockeyDB etc I believe

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12 minutes ago, Shiftynifty said:

It counted on the NCAA stats page and also HockeyDB etc I believe

Hmmmmm. Either someone somewhere made a mistake or the rules in NCAA need some serious clarification 

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According to Ryan Biech's article from today regarding Hughes, it seems that as long as he plays 10 or less games, he will be exempt from the Seattle expansion draft in 2021.

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6 hours ago, aGENT said:

As @The Great Canucks noted, he has an NTC, not a NMC.

 

Whether Tanev is moved or not this deadline, IMO, he's headed back East when he turns UFA.

Amazing how time flies but Tanev has been with Vancouver for 9 years now. Lots to be said wanting to stay with the Canucks especially since they are on the upswing. At the end of the day he has to secure his future. The question he might ask himself is whether he will be in the long term plans. ie 3 years out. 

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22 hours ago, RetroCanuck said:

*cough* *cough* Eriksson

 

I can easily see a scenario where we deal Eriksson with his high cap hit yet low salary and kick in a 3rd round pick or something.

If you are cap dumping AND protecting players from the expansion draft it’ll cost more than a measly 3rd rounder. It cost Columbus a 1st rounder and Karlsson to get rid of Clarkson and to protect Korpisalo/Anderson.

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44 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

2.3%?!?!?

 

10th place?!?!?!

 

 

Pick up the slack losers.

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14 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

Edler has an NMC, at least now, you think he would re-sign without one?  Tanev is healthy and playing well, his trade value may never again be this high, but I think the Canucks are thinking playoffs.  February will be the month that determines whether we can make it, I believe - three sets of four games in six nights - most of the month on the road - that situation killed us earlier in the year.  If we survive February, we make the playoffs, if the Orcas flounder, time for some player movement.

As others pointed out, NTC and not NMC.

But anyway, yes I do think so. Canucks have the leverage here. Edler wants to remain in Vancouver. The Canucks are not going to handcuff themselves come expansion.

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