Where's Wellwood Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: 2nd pick seems fair to me. That could be the difference between Byram/Dach/Turcotte & Krebs/Soderstrom or whomever. Would suck to not have a 2nd, but if they could move Sutter or someone & get another 2nd Id do it. Not really apart from size. Boldys faster/better skater. More of a goal scorer. Vilardi is probably closer to Dach, but Dach is probably faster too. If it was our 10th overall and our 2nd round for Byram, I would do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Broberg, Krebs, or Zegras please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Caufield has a limited ceiling?? He wouldn't need a very high ceiling at his height 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Caufield has a limited ceiling?? I think his poor skating limits his ceiling to that of a very good AHL player. I don't see him, because of his poor skating platform (too narrow) as an NHL player. If he was heavier I could see him as okay. I wonder how he is going to get up and down the ice, play in his own zone, and get to scoring areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Yes, that's right, but I have a feeling LA and ANA will rebuild very quickly, and still be a thorn in the Canucks' side the whole way. Speaking of McCann, he looked great at the Worlds. Here's hoping Pearson can have a career year on Bo's wing. 45+ points should do it The rich keep getting richer in Vegas. They have the #17 and they don't have to participate in the expansion Draft. EDM hired Holland to run the show, so I expect that team to take a big step forward, they will be a contender in 2 years. CGY and SJ are already contenders and don't look to be slowing down. ARI has a better prospect pool than us. So, how does Jim keep up? I really like Benning, but the Canucks need him (or another GM) to be more assertive. How can you be so positive and optimistic for every team aside from the Canucks? Is this what being a Canuck supporter suppose to be? LA and Anahiem have plunged very quickly and there is optimism for them to rebuild quickly? Anahiem is stuck with Getzlaf, Perry and Kesler for a while yet. And LA guys aren't getting younger either. Holland has done nothing for Detroit in recent times (cap era) and he's going to take Edmonton forward a big step? SJ have been perennial chokers, but I guess they need to be feared especially after giving up a haul for EK and still not making it even to the finals and now may simply have him walk. Calgary has bounced back, but still have major goaltending issues and disappeared when playoff time came. I honestly don't see how Arizona has a better prospect pool than us and even if so, it's not significant and they've been bad way longer and have been taking on bad contract after bad contract for assets that you'd have to think they'd be this incredible young powerhouse team at some point. Vegas was given an incredible start unlike any expansion team has ever seen. They are in cap trouble 2 seasons in and after some dismal deals giving up many of the beauty assets acquired by McPhee, he graciously hands over the reigns to someone else after bringing their team back to normal levels. We gave Vegas the window to pick Pettersson, but they wanted Glass all the way, let's see how that fares for them. Anyway, I think the Canucks are doing just fine (thanks to Benning). 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathrowe Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: I have concerns about three names I'm hearing could be players available for us at 10: Zegras, Soderstrom, and Caufeild. IMO, these three are likely bustaroos. There will be other options for us at 10 who have higher ceilings and lower bustaroo potential. Podkolzin, Seider, Broberg, for example are all way higher ceiling players than those first three, and have really low bustaroo concerns. Why take a guy that has a limited ceiling and is a high bustaroo? I think Broberg and Podkolzin are two of the biggest boom or bust examples. Potential for greatness but also a big chance that they don't reach their full potential. Soderstrom has a lower ceiling than Broberg but I think a much higher floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think his poor skating limits his ceiling to that of a very good AHL player. I don't see him, because of his poor skating platform (too narrow) as an NHL player. If he was heavier I could see him as okay. I wonder how he is going to get up and down the ice, play in his own zone, and get to scoring areas. He's not a poor skater just average. The problem is, players of his size really need to be 'elite' skaters to have their skills translate. Those who have been saying its not a big issues (no pun intended), name one player who's been tiny in the NHL who's an average skater and have been impactful? I can't think of one, we don't need another Jordan Schroeder. So many comparing him to Debrincat, but the latter is an elite skater playing with Patrick Kane. And as you've mentioned the issues that will arise in his game because of his size, are not helpful for us in the playoffs, this kid ain't mitch marner Edited June 3, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: They should be looking at taking on a 'bad' contract. This team needs assets badly & we have the cap space to do it. Problem is the cap went up to, what, $84 mill? Teams may want to move contracts. But they are not likely to be desperate with that extra room... Carolina and NYI's made such deals with Chicago a few years back. But they would have been in cap non compliance. Had to shed cap, or they could not field a team. Teams this year only will not improve as much as they like! For example, how dumb would it be of Edmonton, after missing play off's two years straight, to give up a 8th overall pick as CDC pundits reckon is the bar for taking on Lucic? They'll plod along, as well, if the price is Puljujarvi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think his poor skating limits his ceiling to that of a very good AHL player. I don't see him, because of his poor skating platform (too narrow) as an NHL player. If he was heavier I could see him as okay. I wonder how he is going to get up and down the ice, play in his own zone, and get to scoring areas. Haven't followed him enough to judge his skating, but the way you've described him makes me think of Reid Boucher. The guy can score goals and has 62 goals in 68 games in his last year of junior, but never amounted to much cause he didn't have another gear and didn't provide much else. I'm going to assume Caufield will be better than Boucher, but I think it comes down to the right fit for him to excel and I just can't see that being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 If this ranking held true (which is unlikely), we would have a choice of Broberg, Boldy or Krebs. That would be awesome. https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/2019-nhl-draft-ranking-the-top-120-prospects 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I really like that Dach showed up top 10 on both agility & the peak power Wingate tests at the combine. A big man with power and agility is very hard to stop! The Wingate peak power, IMO, is the single best measure or test of hockey specific athletic superiority. Followed closely by the mean power, the ability to successive bursts of power over what would be the duration of a long hockey shift. Cozens shows up in both tests, a phenomenal athlete! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 49 minutes ago, theo5789 said: He wouldn't need a very high ceiling at his height You win for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think his poor skating limits his ceiling to that of a very good AHL player. I don't see him, because of his poor skating platform (too narrow) as an NHL player. If he was heavier I could see him as okay. I wonder how he is going to get up and down the ice, play in his own zone, and get to scoring areas. I do not agree at all, his skating is fine. Edge work could use a little work to up his mobility a bit but that will just take time. He has given scouts no reason to doubt that he will be an impact player at the NHL level and that's why his ranking continues to climb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: I think his poor skating limits his ceiling to that of a very good AHL player. I don't see him, because of his poor skating platform (too narrow) as an NHL player. If he was heavier I could see him as okay. I wonder how he is going to get up and down the ice, play in his own zone, and get to scoring areas. His skating 'concerns' are becoming overrated imo. He gets around the ice fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just not a Russian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: His skating 'concerns' are becoming overrated imo. He gets around the ice fine. How many 160 pound 5’7” guys who skate fine star or even play in the NHL. little guys who have only fine skating don’t play in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannnp Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 3:48 PM, Kanukfanatic said: Are you saying a hobey baker winner is better than a 3rd line C? A lot of players MUCH worse than NHL 3rd line Cs in the list of hobey baker winners. A lot has changed in the last 5 years. Just look at the winners since 2014. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Can't touch the US kids, all college commits and any favoritism or development has to be out of pocket. I could see Krebs or the Swedish D making it over though. We did this in '17 with Pettersson/Glass, I don't believe we flew anyone over in '18. Newhook is going to Boston College next season same with Zegras. Boston College games will be fun to watch with those two playing together. Edited June 4, 2019 by HockeyHarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: How many 160 pound 5’7” guys who skate fine star or even play in the NHL. little guys who have only fine skating don’t play in the league. DeBrincat wasnt a burner either & hes done just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: The rationale would be the player you take with the pick has more upside. First of all, I dont think a team would give up a 1st for Gaudette. But lets say your offered 20th or 21st overall & Seider is still on the board, are you not making that move? Youd have to atleast strongly consider it. Gaudette has shown he is an NHL level forward and he’s just scratching the surface. His upside is still high. Think AG is being undervalued on CDC. My opinion. I don’t know enough about seider to make a proper decision on that. But with what I do know about Gaudette for sure and the little I have seen and do know about Seider I would say no. if our scouts think Seider has top pairing D potential with a very high belief in him achieving that and we made the trade id accept it. But it would be a very risky move 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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