Popular Post Me_ Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Canucklehead53 said: I am so torn on this trade. Excited for Miller concerned about giving up a first. Hopefully Benning can acquire a first somewhere else (like a Marleau situation) then I would be really happy again. If you’re torn on this trade it’s because it’s a fair trade. Edited June 22, 2019 by Me_ 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Angry Goose Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 Looking forward to seeing Miller in the line up. Checks a lot of boxes. Seems pretty excited about being in VAN too. "I love the way this team plays." 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 It’s taken some time to digest this move and some research too to calm the nerves. This is what I have to say about it: 1. Benning has been saying for months he’s wants to add quality top six guys and that he wouldn’t give up our young players to do it. 2. That simply leaves picks or free agency 3. Quality top six guys on decent/fair contracts won’t be available from a non cap issue team, Miller was an obvious target not considered before. 4. Since LE Benning has been tentative in overpaying for free agents At first it seemed like too much, more of what it would cost at the TDL, but as a LW last year on the third line he’d be 23 in scoring in the league. That’s first line LW production these days. He’s also a mucker along the boards, plays like Horvat and gets pucks. Something our top line desperately can use. The cost for a straight across trade would have meant we’d lose a core player and maybe got a little something back depending on who it was. We basically used our first to accelerate things eight years into a good players prime. Took some soaking in, and one can say Bennings legacy pivots in betting on our team now....he’s absolutely addressed the forward group this draft with what we already have....next up defense ...I’m almost certain this summer we will see that transformation too. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead53 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, Me_ said: If you’re torn on this trade it’s because it’s a fair trade. Probably a fair point... Touche 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baggins Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, b3. said: Tampa needed to shed salary, and they bend us for a 1st? Lol come on Jim Needing to shed salary is meaningless when you're moving a good value player. It's not a cap dump move like trying to move Eriksson or Lucic where the player isn't worth his cap hit and trade partners are extremely limited. There would have been several teams interested in Miller with what he delivers at his cap hit, which many teams could easily fit in. Meaning there isn't a bargain price tag to get him as he's fairly easy to move. I don't like moving a first rounder but at least it's lottery protected for next year. So Tampa may have to wait two years for that pick. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRedYellow Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Hmm... So now we've got an army...of forwards... Petey, Bo & Boes (Top 3) Miller, Pearson & Baertschi (Top 6, for now) Sutter, Virtanen, Beagle, Roussel, Eriksson & Leivo (could be set for bottom 6) Goldy, Gaudette, Granlund, Spooner, Schaller & Motte (all fighting to get in to bottom 6) That's 4-5 forwards too much and that's not counting on any young guns challenging for spots... And... barely none of them can get us anything in return. (Perhaps Goldy & Gaudette, but I'd like to keep those two.) Guessing we're gonna let a lot of guys just walking out the door!? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Yeah why plan for the future as a franchise. Maybe if we were cup contenders I'd be all in for slitting our throats (like Gillis did) by trading all our picks away. I love how people here praise all the 1st round picks playing on this team but the one we just traded away is apparently worthless. LOL jesus. No one is saying the pick is worthless. Yet another tired straw man from you. The pick is conditional and undetermined, not “worthless” and you're not getting a 50 point top 6 forward for peanuts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Miller>>>>>>>>>Hayes at 7mil I’d rather have Hayes, a 1st and a 3rd. Would you trade Hayes, 1st and a 3rd for Miller and a 5th? Edited June 22, 2019 by mpt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The team is getting heavier, faster and more skilled ...Miller, Pearson, Leivo, Podkolzin ...can hardly wait with what JB is going to do with the "D" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: Moving a third and a late 1st for what is intended to be a top line LW on this team isn’t slitting our throats. He’s gambling on making the playoffs within two seasons, that’s not a terrible bet. No one is saying the picks don’t have value but you need to give to get. I’d have preferred D for a move like that but I’m willing to wait for the offseason to play out. This is all just hyperbole. I like the pressure this puts on Benning. He's betting on himself making the team better here, and he's gambling his job to do it. He could have kept going the "safe" route keeping all our picks, signing overpaid free agents and continuing to inch towards being a playoff team. Fans don't wanna wait 10 years for playoffs though, and neither does he. 1 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FlyLow_ Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 Perhaps some need to pull their head out of the fishbowl and look around what our division rivals think of our trade. Spoiler, they're not happy. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Anyway, what do I think of this trade? At first it looks like Benning is sacrificing the future to save his job this year. But actually he's always traded our draft picks away to try to compete NOW so it's more of the same. The only difference is instead of trading prospects & 2nd round picks he's now traded a 1st rounder. Miller is the best player Benning has ever traded for so he will help. This team is also better than the dumpster fires he tried to prop up in the past. So can Miller make an impact on a team that has a shot at the playoffs? Yes. Do I think a 1st & 3rd is worth that, at the stage this team is at? No. In the end I hate this trade. This management group is only good at ONE thing. Drafting. So trading their 1st & 3rd away in what is supposed to be a very deep draft coming up is IMO a huge mistake. Is this team ready to actually win some playoff rounds? No. Players drafted this/next year should be helping this team when it his it's prime. Instead we spend those assets on a type of guy that's available in free agency every year. I'm feeling like an Islanders fan in the Milbury years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mpt said: I’d rather have Hayes, a 1st and a 3rd Considering Hayes didn't make it to FA irrelevant. Next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said: Looking forward to seeing Miller in the line up. Checks a lot of boxes. Seems pretty excited about being in VAN too. "I love the way this team plays." Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Yeah why plan for the future as a franchise. Maybe if we were cup contenders I'd be all in for slitting our throats (like Gillis did) by trading all our picks away. I love how people here praise all the 1st round picks playing on this team but the one we just traded away is apparently worthless. LOL jesus. We traded a first round pick for a former first round pick (15) in his early prime plus a lottery ticket. BTW since 2001 only 7 guys from the third round on have played 100 games in the NHL, (on the Canucks) and only half of them were good...food for thought Edited June 22, 2019 by IBatch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, CanadianRugby said: Anyway, what do I think of this trade? At first it looks like Benning is sacrificing the future to save his job this year. But actually he's always traded our draft picks away to try to compete NOW so it's more of the same. The only difference is instead of trading prospects & 2nd round picks he's now traded a 1st rounder. Miller is the best player Benning has ever traded for so he will help. This team is also better than the dumpster fires he tried to prop up in the past. So can Miller make an impact on a team that has a shot at the playoffs? Yes. Do I think a 1st & 3rd is worth that, at the stage this team is at? No. In the end I hate this trade. This management group is only good at ONE thing. Drafting. So trading their 1st & 3rd away in what is supposed to be a very deep draft coming up is IMO a huge mistake. Is this team ready to actually win some playoff rounds? No. Players drafted this/next year should be helping this team when it his it's prime. Instead we spend those assets on a type of guy that's available in free agency every year. I'm feeling like an Islanders fan in the Milbury years. It's ok I know you're still grieving your Leafs tragic loss and trading a 1st for a 6th. Devastating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Considering Hayes didn't make it to FA irrelevant. Next. Completely relevant when he was traded recently for a 5th. Hayes, 1st, 3rd or Miller and a 5th. Again, bad trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Jesus I can't believe I interacted with this troll. My game is slipping. That did is ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Could say the same interacting with a Leaf fan. Go fluff Dumbass more troll. Me thinking it was smart for the Leafs to acquire draft picks while rebuilding is common sense, it doesn't make me a Leaf fan. I think most moves they've made since then have been at best questionable. You on the other hand cheer for the Bruins, have Marchand in your sig and rubbed Canucks fans faces in it while the Bruins were doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Anyway, what do I think of this trade? At first it looks like Benning is sacrificing the future to save his job this year. But actually he's always traded our draft picks away to try to compete NOW so it's more of the same. The only difference is instead of trading prospects & 2nd round picks he's now traded a 1st rounder. Miller is the best player Benning has ever traded for so he will help. This team is also better than the dumpster fires he tried to prop up in the past. So can Miller make an impact on a team that has a shot at the playoffs? Yes. Do I think a 1st & 3rd is worth that, at the stage this team is at? No. In the end I hate this trade. This management group is only good at ONE thing. Drafting. So trading their 1st & 3rd away in what is supposed to be a very deep draft coming up is IMO a huge mistake. Is this team ready to actually win some playoff rounds? No. Players drafted this/next year should be helping this team when it his it's prime. Instead we spend those assets on a type of guy that's available in free agency every year. I'm feeling like an Islanders fan in the Milbury years. Give your head a shake. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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