Losing With Pride Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Is there a chance that Ferland comes back for playoffs? imagine the depth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Bad Trade... mortgaging the future for a short term rental. #1 This team is not ready to contend... maybe this will get them into the playoffs, but they won't go deep... they just don't have the experience. The only way this could payoff with a long run is if Marky stands on his head in the playoffs... but the playoffs are a different rodeo for goalies... lot more jostling, crease crashing and other physical play which has been shown to put Marky off his game. #2 Toffoli is a free agent this summer... the chances the Canucks can re-sign him in the off season is remote... they already have CAP problems. What are they going to do when Ferland comes back off LTIR? Toffoli is on a $4.6 million dollar contract... and it is unlikely he'll sign for less than $4.25. Unless Ferland is ready to retire, this doesn't work. Canucks also need to sign Tanev... otherwise they will have a hole in their D. Not to mention Marky is going to cost a lot more. Sorry, but this is a big error on the part of Benning. Two picks and a prospect. I don't see Schaller as a big loss... he was a bad signing anyway. But those picks and Madden are not easily replaced. Maybe Benning is getting pressure from the Aqualini's to make the playoffs... in that case, they are making a mistake... this move will backfire on the chances of this team to build a real contender with multiple years in the post season. Turn your TV off, close the curtains, go to bed and head under cover. Because if you take a chance, something might happen. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Bumping them year to year doesn't solve any problems; it creates problems in those years. If we want to cover our bonuses for next year we're going to have to be under the cap, which means letting at least one of our UFAs walk (Tanev or Markstrom) and/or paying assets to move a contract. Tell me how that's a good thing? It's too late for this year. We'd have to dump 5+ million in cap to cover the bonuses for this year. Next year is where we really have to save. I'd rather not mess around when we have to re-sign our two franchise players. That will be a pivotal point for our organization just like how this past summer was pivotal for the Leafs. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that the price we would have to pay to fix this problem (moving assets to offload contracts) would not be worth freeing up around 1.5 million in cap space. So I ask you then, would you simply absorb the dead cap space? no i would plan to move a contract over the offseason or buy one out not sure why you want a simplistic approach to cap management do you understand what the laffs are doing to manage their cap issues they are actually quite brilliant do you know they are spending close to 120 million this season on salaries - legally quite amazing not that i agree with their approach but it is pretty damn sophisticated and big league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I think I can conclude that you're trolling. I concluded that a long time ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Losing With Pride said: Is there a chance that Ferland comes back for playoffs? imagine the depth. Word is he’s shut down for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 Toffoli scores goals in all areas of the o-zone. Adds another dimension scorer to our group. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ73 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I like the trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Dangerous gamble. The fans will be very unhappy if we gave up a top prospect for a rental in a non playoff season..... He’s not a top prospect. B grade prospect. May or may not work out. (I’m a Madden supporter) but sometimes a gamble is worth it. We have key players in our core to build around. This is a different scenario now. I would have liked to have waited one more year personally before I traded assets but at some point you have to try and win. This is a minor dent in a cupboard full of quality prospects 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On the topic of an extension, I think with him being not long past his 28th bday (as of July 1) he will be in a position to command a 6 year deal ; maybe something in the 5-5.5 range. Just a wild ass guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Chris12345 said: Which ones come to mind? Joffery Lupel for starters... Out of the fishbowl that is the Toronto sports scene, Lupul took to Instagram to voice his frustrations that he could've continued to play hockey, and felt that the team forced him to fail his medical. Lupul later deleted the post of him snowboarding which emphasized that he was healthy enough to play: “Haha failed physical? They cheat, everyone lets them” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: no i would plan to move a contract over the offseason or buy one out not sure why you want a simplistic approach to cap management do you understand what the laffs are doing to manage their cap issues they are actually quite brilliant do you know they are spending close to 120 million this season on salaries - legally quite amazing not that i agree with their approach but it is pretty damn sophisticated and big league They have the advantage of being rich. That's cashflow 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Squamfan said: the canucks are 4 points from missing the playoffs and are making moves like we are one player away from the cup Lots of teams have won the cup or challenged with rosters not expected to make runs at it. You can lay over thinking the top teams will win the cup every year if you want. Or yo can look at a very weak conference and think with a break you could go to the finals. A couple upsets and you never know what is going to happen eg. LA or more recently St Louis! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, stawns said: Sorry, I don't see this coming back to bite the Canucks in any meaningful way. Madden wasn't the one. He's Jack Hughes and that's not an an exaggeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 Toffoli >>> Madden ANY DAY 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Alf - some poster here hope to maybe have 2 home playoffs games this year.... or next. Others like you WANT a cup and hopefully a dynasty club. King in our fifty years we’ve never had a top number one centre and a top number one D man at the same time. (Well we’ve never had the top D man). And these two great players are extremely young. Trying to just get into the playoffs by sacrificing assets that could have been used to help these two great players in three seasons when they are mature is just really short sighted. JB is closing our window for winning a cup before it even gets open. Why in the hell is he doing this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, hammertime said: Joffery Lupel for starters... Out of the fishbowl that is the Toronto sports scene, Lupul took to Instagram to voice his frustrations that he could've continued to play hockey, and felt that the team forced him to fail his medical. Lupul later deleted the post of him snowboarding which emphasized that he was healthy enough to play: “Haha failed physical? They cheat, everyone lets them” oh yea I forgot that one was bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, NHL'er said: On the wing? Miller Boeser Virtanen Podz Hog Lind Don't think so, sorry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cuporbust Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: No one thinks that and no one said that. The top 6 is marginally better. Schaller is warm body on an expiring contract with no implications. Regardless of the price, Toffoli makes the top 6 much more then "marginally better". 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: They have the advantage of being rich. That's cashflow 101 nucks are damn rich too don't fool yourself this franchise value has almost tripled under aquaman don't forget about those expansion fees 15 million from vegas 20 million from seattle Edited February 18, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: no i would plan to move a contract over the offseason or buy one out not sure why you want a simplistic approach to cap management do you understand what the laffs are doing to manage their cap issues they are actually quite brilliant do you know they are spending close to 120 million this season on salaries - legally quite amazing not that i agree with their approach but it is pretty damn sophisticated and big league Even moving one contract and buying one out let's us just barely break even cap wise assuming re retain our UFAs (because if we don't our team becomes considerably weaker). You're going to have to do better than that. Regarding the Leafs, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't want to be in a position where Pettersson and Hughes' next contracts hamstring us like the Leafs have been this year. In order to do that we need to save as much as possible, like say 1.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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